• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Leaving the "Good Stuff" in the Warmup Ring

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #21
    I actually have a horse who gets tense at changes of scenery.


    Therefore, for us, it's all about changing scenery as many times as possible.

    At home, the arena has a 20x60 portion marked out so I can practice geometry and another 40x60 portion with the corner chopped off. I will intentionally ride in one portion, get him going nicely - then switch areas. At my trainer's, each lesson will include more than one arena if possible. When I go to clinics, I like to warm up in a different arena than I compete in.

    I don't know if it comes from just changing things up for a horse who likes routine, from new things to look at, a different perspective after he has gotten comfortable, or what. But each ride in the competition arena gets better at each show, and he is learning to adapt and just leg yield out his tension in his warmup around the ring now. Really, in the end, miles are the biggest thing you can do to help your horse. I definitely also do a lot of "taking a break" then getting back to work, since if timing is off at a show and the warmup ring is far from the show ring you end up waiting a while. Time to get totally focused on me again is rapidly improving.
    If Kim Kardashian wants to set up a gofundme to purchase the Wu Tang album from Martin Shkreli, guess what people you DON'T HAVE TO DONATE.
    -meupatdoes

    Comment


    • #22
      Honestly, it sounds like its the rider. I know plenty of people who warm up beautifully and then bomb in the actual test. If you are tense, he wont move as freely. Have someone else show him at a Dressage show and see what happens. Maybe a friend or barnmate might want to show him or you could switch horses for the show day.

      When I warm up, I make sure and warm up until its my turn to go into the show arena. If Im done with my warm up, I walk (not on a loose rein) and put in a few pieces of trot to keep him from thinking he is done. Maybe you are finishing warm up early and he is protesting by acting out?

      Comment


      • #23
        A little curious here: is he pastured with other horses or alone? Maybe he's a tad resentful about leaving his new found friends in the warm-up ring? Of course that's just tough, but just wondering.

        Comment

        • Original Poster

          #24
          KO, You are correct in that I'd rather do our schooling to fix this issue without having it permanently on his competition record. He is a phenomenal performance horse and I think our struggles are two fold. I am getting more tense because I'm trying harder each time we go in the ring because each time we go in the ring we are doing more poorly. It is a vicious cycle. And At home (and in competition warmups) we are not testing ourselves to a planned test often enough.

          As Janet said, "There is a BIG difference between making the transition at H no-mtter-what, and waiting until you have a quality moment to make the transition." We need more to improve our no-matter-what stuff.

          netg, This guy loves change of scenery, new environments, etc. It perks him up. So an new ring and an audience would normally set his show-off fires burning.

          PiaffePlease, you could be right. He is the type of horse who will lose edge when you give him a break in your schooling or lesson. He is generally a very chilled out guy, not much ruffles his mental feathers. I spend much of my time feeding the fire to get him revved up instead of bringing him down enough to focus on work. Too much walking while we wait could be one of our problems (Or too much warm up. This is something I will have to experiment with this winter).

          alicen, He is pastured alone, but shares a fence line with a gelding. They enjoy playing a modified game of halter tag and enjoy grazing along the fence close to each other, but are quite content to graze at opposite sides of their fields. And when either is removed to go to work or a show, it is the one who remains that is most put out, not the one who is going to do the work. He is also in sight of many mares and geldings in other fields, but has no bonds there and is indifferent about their whereabouts.
          Cindy Geres

          Home of Foxwind SL (Cdn Trakehner and Cdn Sport Horse Approved)
          www.sprucelane.net

          Comment


          • #25
            Originally posted by SpruceLane View Post
            More and more often my horse is leaving his good work in the warmup up ring.
            How do I get those competitor scaring and judge wowing movements in the ring?

            .
            I did not come from dressage so feel free to discount among the western folks they say that "don't pay nothing to win in the warmup pen"
            meaning of course that since we run for money in cattle events or barrels or such,killing your horse practicing pays $0.

            Also we believe that horses are smarter than people give them credit for and if once you have excluded YOU and your nerves and your signals and your tension, it is quite possible (even probable) that the horse has learned (to put it simply) that you cannot bust his ass for misbehaving in front of a judge...

            so he learns he can avoid work at <that> place and time.The solution is (again for us) to go to less expensive entry events to school him and if need correct him properly.The dressage set seems to get more traumatized about all that as if every appearance outside a stall must be flawless,not so much some of the other folks.

            But we look to ourselves first and them to him

            Tamara
            Production Acres,Pro A Welsh Cobs
            I am one of the last 210,000 remaining full time farmers in America.We feed the others.

            Comment


            • #26
              Originally posted by GoForAGallop View Post
              I'd look to yourself, honestly. There's not many reasons he should be two completely different horses, unless he just really really likes the chaos of the warmup ring and hates being alone in the show ring.
              I agree with this - it may be VERY subtle on your part but a slight tightening of the thighs could make him loose impulsion.

              I though a judge was nuts for her comment "rider tense" - that is until I saw the video. Completely loose in warmup but enter for test? Tense rider = short strided horse.
              Now in Kentucky

              Comment

              Working...
              X