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  • PlayTheOdds
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    Well I am just so disappointed. Where's the B sample?

    I was already to light the bonfire too.

    It's a pity to waste. Smore's anyone??

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  • rugbygirl
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    Oooh, I knew Anky had a dirty little secret.

    Gingering.

    Who would've guessed. My how the mighty have fallen. tsk, tsk.

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  • Kaeleer
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    Originally posted by rugbygirl View Post


    Look, salinero. His tail is up, because he is proud he passed his drug test.

    Bollocks, he has been gingered in order to encourage him to engage and THAT'S why he won't halt. All is revealed.


    Eggy, is blean not a gerund when used in that context?

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  • rugbygirl
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    Look, salinero. His tail is up, because he is proud he passed his drug test.

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  • Bogey2
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    gee, that's swell.

    I mean about Slc's fictional and detailed replay of discussions between people she does not know at all and ruby's childhood with the parents who were never satisfied with their children's 'excellent' performances.

    Lovely.

    May we have a lighthearted thread now and then? OH right, no, of course not
    gee Wally, maybe we should learn how to do stick art!

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  • rugbygirl
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    I think the "horsey stick art thread" is going well.

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  • egontoast
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    gee, that's swell.

    I mean about Slc's fictional and detailed replay of discussions between people she does not know at all and ruby's childhood with the parents who were never satisfied with their children's 'excellent' performances.

    Lovely.

    May we have a lighthearted thread now and then? OH right, no, of course not.

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  • rugbygirl
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    RE: the criticism post

    It is a North American trend right now to shield children from all forms of criticism. They are all special, unique snowflakes.

    I was raised in an extremely competitive household. People were incredulous at the criticism my brother and I received after excellent musical performances or seemingly excellent school grades.

    The criticism was one of the key reasons we excelled; it made us work harder and harder. I can't stand when people blow sunshine...I want to know what I need to fix.

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  • egontoast
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    'Blean", like "clean", is sometimes a verb and sometimes an adjective.

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  • slc2
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    Exactly. And brilliant.

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  • FancyFree
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    Originally posted by Bogey2 View Post
    no eggy, they can't be blean, you can blean on something but it can't be blean. Like the 'stones song say's "you can blean on me" ...this is the correct use of the word.
    Yeah I thought it was a verb. As in these quotes:

    "You can only blean against that which resists." or

    "You must learn from your past mistakes, but not blean on your past successes."

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  • Bogey2
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    Nope, they were "BLEAN" according to slickopedia.

    no eggy, they can't be blean, you can blean on something but it can't be blean. Like the 'stones song say's "you can blean on me" ...this is the correct use of the word.

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  • egontoast
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    The Tennessee stud's eyes were green...

    Nope, they were "BLEAN" according to slickopedia.

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  • raff
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    Originally posted by slc2 View Post
    I think Sjeff is always very critical after her rides. He isn't satisfied with Anky's performance most of the time, in the sense that even if she wins by a large margin, he has many things to say that he did not feel were sufficient and he says it very loudly and publicly. If she gets a second place or less, he is much more vocal in his criticism of her. And it is all very public.

    There is:
    1. A long tradition of harsh coaching in ALL sports
    2. A long tradition of especially harsh coaching in riding in general
    3. The pressure to win and to excel at the top level, which requires a very peculiar mindset of endless dissatisfaction with one's performance

    Coaching a top rider like that isn't like coaching a lower level rider. Most lower level riders would never, could never, withstand the pressure and constant criticism. If a lower level rider was coached that way he'd most likely hop off his horse and indignantly go home.

    I think there is a long tradition in dressage of coaches and trainers being very, very demanding and harsh, and pushing the rider very hard, but it's not just dressage, it's also in hunters - chucky waters used to make people get off their horse, get down on the ground and eat dirt if they messed up a jump. And of course people did it - most did, in fact. Which shows you there is something going on between coach and rider that isn't always that easy to explain.

    Too there is what my SO calls 'The Dutch Bluntness'. They just tend to choose words a little differently, he says.

    Dressage coaching in particular is traditionally very, very demanding and very hard on people. It is very common for coaches to use hyperbole or exaggerate their criticism, 'HE'S NOT TURNING' for the horse that is reacting incompletely or not prompty enough to the aids, etc. The horse may actually be turning, just not as desired. What they say is intended to push the rider to getting a really perfect response, not just an average or partial one.

    People also tend to behave very much like their parents or anyone they got a lot of coaching from. I'm now old enough to have seen people teach and also have seen their parents or their mentors teach. There are a lot of the same patterns repeated over generations - an angry dismissive approach to questions, hypercritical even after a win, even ridicule, when you don't understand something or can't do it - that doesn't always work well all the time, even to push a rider to a better performance, it can often backfire - with all types of students, not just the more independent ones further along. People behave like the people they spent a lot of time with - sometimes they know it's a problem and try to control it, but if they're tired or busy it will come out.

    ^^threadkiller^^

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  • sm
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    eggy, blean isn't even an adjective. The Tennessee stud's eyes were green...

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  • egontoast
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    I expect Anky has a better sense of humour than you do, Kareen.

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  • Kareen
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    Poor her. I can't imagine being subjected to all of this BS. Some people are just mean and nasty. And then there are fans who mean well but aren't much of a help either.

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  • slc2
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    I think Sjeff is always very critical after her rides. He isn't satisfied with Anky's performance most of the time, in the sense that even if she wins by a large margin, he has many things to say that he did not feel were sufficient and he says it very loudly and publicly. If she gets a second place or less, he is much more vocal in his criticism of her. And it is all very public.

    There is:
    1. A long tradition of harsh coaching in ALL sports
    2. A long tradition of especially harsh coaching in riding in general
    3. The pressure to win and to excel at the top level, which requires a very peculiar mindset of endless dissatisfaction with one's performance

    Coaching a top rider like that isn't like coaching a lower level rider. Most lower level riders would never, could never, withstand the pressure and constant criticism. If a lower level rider was coached that way he'd most likely hop off his horse and indignantly go home.

    I think there is a long tradition in dressage of coaches and trainers being very, very demanding and harsh, and pushing the rider very hard, but it's not just dressage, it's also in hunters - chucky waters used to make people get off their horse, get down on the ground and eat dirt if they messed up a jump. And of course people did it - most did, in fact. Which shows you there is something going on between coach and rider that isn't always that easy to explain.

    Too there is what my SO calls 'The Dutch Bluntness'. They just tend to choose words a little differently, he says.

    Dressage coaching in particular is traditionally very, very demanding and very hard on people. It is very common for coaches to use hyperbole or exaggerate their criticism, 'HE'S NOT TURNING' for the horse that is reacting incompletely or not prompty enough to the aids, etc. The horse may actually be turning, just not as desired. What they say is intended to push the rider to getting a really perfect response, not just an average or partial one.

    People also tend to behave very much like their parents or anyone they got a lot of coaching from. I'm now old enough to have seen people teach and also have seen their parents or their mentors teach. There are a lot of the same patterns repeated over generations - an angry dismissive approach to questions, hypercritical even after a win, even ridicule, when you don't understand something or can't do it - that doesn't always work well all the time, even to push a rider to a better performance, it can often backfire - with all types of students, not just the more independent ones further along. People behave like the people they spent a lot of time with - sometimes they know it's a problem and try to control it, but if they're tired or busy it will come out.
    Last edited by slc2; Aug. 28, 2008, 07:46 AM.

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  • 2boys
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    That was fresh.

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  • belambi
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    yep..i fell for it too!!!!!!!!!

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