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  • shopping for a dressage saddle... recommendations?

    My parents gave me an IOU for a new saddle for graduation (yay!), but I need some help getting started. Here are my and my horses' stats:

    I'm a hair under 5'8", female, fairly slender, have fairly prominent seat bones, and longish thighs.

    My horse is a 17 yr old 15.2hh(ish) Connemara/Arab cross with med-wide withers and a compact, well-proportioned body (1/2 pony!).

    We're schooling 1st level with hopes of showing a bit this summer, and playing around with some 2nd level movements.

    My favorite saddle that I've ridden in so far was my IDA team's Marcus Krehan with external thigh blocks- puts my legs in a great position and keeps them there- I have a tendency to let my knees come up and my heels come back.

    Since my horses is smallish, I'm concerned that with the long flaps and extreme padding of many modern dressage saddles, I'll have a hard time keeping my leg on him.

    My budget is around $1200, and I'm okay with used saddles.

    Anyone have recommendations or advice for me in my quest?

    Thanks!

  • #2
    I have the Passier Grand Gilbert and I loveeee it. It fits my QH's and my Sportpony. It's an AWESOME saddle, you should try it out!

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    • #3
      Try www.allenglishtack.com. They have a very nice selection of used (and new) saddles and are superb saddle fitters. If you are not close by, they will tell you how to trace measurements of your horse's back and help you with the fitting. If you are close enough to them, their master saddle fitter will come out and fit the saddle to you and your horse.

      I got a used Hastilow Piaffe for my OTTB there and an Ideal Jessica for my Belgian warmblood--too very opposite extremes in body type. I love them both, and so do my horses. (I think they also carry other brands too.)

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      • #4
        My Stubbens fit my Polish Arab really nicely. Even the ones with bigger blocks for you don't have nearly as much junk on the horse's side as a lot of the more modern saddles.

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          My ArabxASB loves my trainer's Prestige Milan, but he does well in my Niedersuss also.
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          • #6
            There are zillions of different dressage saddles out there simply because it is very difficult and very important to get a good fit for both horse and rider. First you need to evaluate your horse's back and understand what type of saddle he needs (ie hoop or regular tree, high or low head, curvy or straight or somewhere in between, panel shape and placement, etc). I would work with a saddle fitter to get wither tracings and evaluate photos of your horse. Then consider what you need in a saddle, select a few good contenders, and start test riding. A good saddle fitter really will be indispensable in this process.

            Good Luck!
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            • #7
              Originally posted by candysgirl View Post
              My Stubbens fit my Polish Arab really nicely. Even the ones with bigger blocks for you don't have nearly as much junk on the horse's side as a lot of the more modern saddles.
              Maybe a Stubben with biomex? It's really comfortable-I'm getting one as I have back problems and I constantly get cysts on my seat bones. I never really thought of it, but maybe I have "prominent" seat bones as well. I know that's probably more information than everyone wanted. Stubbens tend to fit Araby horses nicely. This might be a little high on your budget though. I have a student who rides in a Thornhill, and thats a great saddle for the price. It fits her incredibly short backed and barrel-like Morgan well, and has the thigh blocks you like (which I hate! But that's beside the point

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              • #8
                I've been happy with a County Eventer on my Conn x's. You should e able to get a used one in your price range
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                • #9
                  If I were you I'd check out Schleese and County

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                  • #10
                    I just bought a new saddle. My horse picked it. Of course, he picked the most expensive of the 10 saddles the saddle fitter brought with her. But in the half-dozen rides I've had since I tried it, I can tell that he moves better in it so it was worth the money. I, on the other hand, wasn't so thrilled with it at first, but I've propped up the cantle (based on a BNT recommendation) and now I like it.

                    I'm telling you this b/c you really need to try a lot of saddles. Some will fit you. Some will fit your horse. Hopefully you will find one you both like. I'm of the camp that you pick which saddle your horse likes and then figure out how to deal with it.

                    When I put this particular saddle on the horse after trying about 5 others, he moved freer. Just to make sure, we put on the saddle that I liked and he moved stilted. We put back on the saddle that he liked and he moved free. Decision made.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by beckzert View Post
                      Maybe a Stubben with biomex? It's really comfortable-I'm getting one as I have back problems and I constantly get cysts on my seat bones. I never really thought of it, but maybe I have "prominent" seat bones as well. I know that's probably more information than everyone wanted. Stubbens tend to fit Araby horses nicely. This might be a little high on your budget though. I have a student who rides in a Thornhill, and thats a great saddle for the price. It fits her incredibly short backed and barrel-like Morgan well, and has the thigh blocks you like (which I hate! But that's beside the point
                      Used Stubbens are fantastically reasonably priced if you hunt around and find a used one. http://www.stubbennorthamerica.com/s...sedsaddles.php These are more or less new, they were demo saddles and the like. eBay is another good place to look.

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                      • #12
                        I'm a big fan of Stubben and someone will pry my Genesis Special out of my cold dead hands someday.

                        But as a general 'what to buy?' - try, borrow, beg to have a sit in any of your friends saddles!! 5-10 minutes in any of them on their horse, your horse - that will let you know pretty darn quick if it is something worth pursuing. Or not. Also, don't judge a saddle just sitting on a rack or sitting still in it - they all have slightly different balance points and riding in them will let you know if it works for what you want.

                        And if you are anywhere in my vicinity - please feel free to pop me an email and you can try my saddle.
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                        • #13
                          Will echo what others have said - there is no substitute for getting a GOOD fitter to come evaluate your horse and you, nor for doing short test rides in a variety of saddles. Sitting on a saddle in a store doesn't tell you anything about how that saddle will work for your horse. Better to spend the money and get a full evaluation from a fitter so you have a better idea what you and your horse need, than to guess.

                          I bought a custom built saddle this time last year for one of my horses. The saddle was ordered to exact specifications from my trainer, and was the same model as another saddle she used on my horse. Guess what - the custom didn't fit him (pinches him in the shoulder), and he was ridden in it probably a dozen times or less. We just had him evaluated by a certified Schleese fitter - wow, this was the most comprehensive saddle evaluation I have ever seen! Learned that the horse needs a saddle that is cut away in the shoulder area - he looked wonderful during the test ride in one of her demo models - had much more freedom in the shoulder, and didn't hold nearly as much tension in his back. We are doing a full training ride today in the demo, and if he looks as good as he did the other day, I will be plunking down MORE $$$ for another new saddle.

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                          • #14
                            I second the Stubben idea...and the bio mex is fabulous for my old many-times-landed-on seat bones. My 29 cm tree fits all the horses I ride, and everyone goes better in it than anything else I have owned.
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