• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

I need a Dressage book!

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • I need a Dressage book!

    Ok you guys are killing me here with all these aides. I'm trying to keep up and understand but I need it in a book. My dressage was awesome when I was younger, about 15 years ago. I studied Sally Swift on a daily basis. Is this a good book for me to pull back out now that I am getting back into dressage?

    I see all the posts on instructors not giving riders the correct instruction on cues. I have to haul my horse about 1.5hrs away to a decent dressage instructor. My last instructor just had me going around the ring, same old stuff. Just saying keep your arms down. I can buy a parrot for cheaper then that instructor and teach it to say "Keep your arms down" and set it on the rail when I ride.

    So Sally Swift? Or is she out dated? Is there a better book out there?
    Derby Lyn Farms Website

    Derby Lyn Farms on Facebook!

  • #2
    Jane Savoie's new book Dressage 101 is excellent. She does a great job breaking down different movements and has plenty of illustrations about how it should look and good descriptions of how to do things. It starts at the VERY beginning of training and progresses in a logical manner all the way up the levels.
    Gallant Gesture "Liam" 1995 chestnut ottb gelding
    Mr. Painter "Remy" 2006 chestnut ottb gelding
    My Training Blog: www.dressagefundamentals.com

    Comment


    • #3
      Dressage with Kyra is another good one! My trainer has a copy that always gets stolen, but it's a great resource. We're big KK fans at our farm.

      I read a great Cross-Training one when I was younger, but can't remember the title for the life of me. There were two or three books in the series, but had some great exercises and the writing was really easy to follow. Lots of pictures. I'll see if I can find it on Amazon and check back in.

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by Superminion View Post
        Dressage with Kyra is another good one! My trainer has a copy that always gets stolen, but it's a great resource. We're big KK fans at our farm.

        I read a great Cross-Training one when I was younger, but can't remember the title for the life of me. There were two or three books in the series, but had some great exercises and the writing was really easy to follow. Lots of pictures. I'll see if I can find it on Amazon and check back in.
        Jane Savoie had two books called Cross Training Your Horse. It has since been consolidated into one. Also check out her Youtue videos and find her on Faceook

        Despite the horrible time I had in Mary Wanless clinics some of her books are really good, particularly the Ride with your Mind books though they don't really address the OP's question.

        I also like Leslie Webb's book and DVD
        I wasn't always a Smurf
        Penmerryl's Sophie RIDSH
        "I ain't as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was"
        The ignore list is my friend. It takes 2 to argue.

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by carolprudm View Post
          Jane Savoie had two books called Cross Training Your Horse. It has since been consolidated into one. Also check out her Youtue videos and find her on Faceook

          Despite the horrible time I had in Mary Wanless clinics some of her books are really good, particularly the Ride with your Mind books though they don't really address the OP's question.

          I also like Leslie Webb's book and DVD
          Thats it! Thanks Carol!

          Comment


          • #6
            Old-school dressage person here . . .

            Among my favorite books, over the years:

            Anything by Aloiss Podhajsky
            Dressage Formula by Erik F herbermann
            Dressage in Harmony, Walter Zettl
            Anything by Charles de Kunffy
            Dressage with Kyra
            A Gymnastic Riding System using Mind, body & Spirit, Betsy Steiner
            Last edited by KBEquine; May. 10, 2012, 08:10 AM. Reason: Adding another author
            Hidden Echo Farm, Carlisle, PA -- home of JC palomino sire Canadian Kid (1990 - 2013) & AQHA sire Lark's Favorite, son of Rugged Lark.

            Comment


            • #7
              My ALL Time favorite is Sylvia Loche's: Dressage in Lightness. I've referred to that one over and over and I re-read it every year or so because as my knowledge grows, I absorb more of it. The Jane Savoie's books - 101 and both of the Cross Training books are both well worn as well.

              I've got the Zettl book (Dressage in Harmony) but have never found it easy for me to understand. We all learn differently - I love pictures and analogies .

              Comment


              • #8
                I have Dressage with Kyra, Ride with your Mind (Mary Wanless) , and My Horses, my Teachers (Alois P.) all of them very good reads, as well as 101 Dressage Exercises for practice, because I can't take regular lessons.

                Jane Savoie's book looks interesting. Here's what they say about it:

                Dressage 101 is a one-volume new edition of the bestsellers Cross-Train Your Horse and More Cross-Training

                It’s a simple, riddle-free system of training that places a high priority on the horse’s physical and mental well-being. Beginning with the three golden rules of dressage training—clarity, consistency, and kindness— Jane Savoie walks you through her four stages of dressage education.

                Stage One is an introductory course in the basics, and Stage Two covers the “nuts and bolts” of training, including transitions, school figures, and movements.

                By the time you finish Stage Two, you’ll have a happy, responsive horse that understands going forward and being straight; accepts contact so you can communicate with him through the reins; moves in a regular rhythm and a steady tempo in all three gaits; and can do transitions, circles, and turns, back up, lengthen his stride, and go sideways.

                In Stage Three, Jane translates the secrets surrounding the half-halt, enabling you to put your horse “on the bit,” and adding a whole new dimension to your training. You’ll even be ready for some “fancy stuff” in Stage Four. Don’t worry, everything in this book is well within the capacity of most horses—we’re simply talking about the work required in the United States Equestrian Federation's (USEF) dressage tests at Third Level. This includes collected, medium, and extended gaits; advanced lateral movements; and flying changes.
                Ottbs - The finish line is only the beginning!

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by KBEquine View Post
                  Old-school dressage person here . . .

                  Among my favorite books, over the years:

                  Anything by Aloiss Podhajsky
                  Dressage Formula by Erik F herbermann
                  Dressage in Harmony, Walter Zettl
                  Anything by Charles de Kunffy
                  Dressage with Kyra
                  A Gymnastic Riding System using Mind, body & Spirit, Betsy Steiner
                  Yup, forgot that one
                  I wasn't always a Smurf
                  Penmerryl's Sophie RIDSH
                  "I ain't as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was"
                  The ignore list is my friend. It takes 2 to argue.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Another fabulous book is Major Anders Lindgren's Teaching Exercises: A Manual for Instructors and Riders. It has simple aids explained and exercises to achieve correct connection.

                    Any of Carl Hester's books, so many books so little time!

                    Just came back from a Centered Riding Instructor Clinic, so yes you can utilize Sally Swift's concepts and exercises
                    www.janekellydressage.com

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by KBEquine View Post
                      Old-school dressage person here . . .

                      Among my favorite books, over the years:

                      Anything by Aloiss Podhajsky
                      Dressage Formula by Erik F herbermann
                      Dressage in Harmony, Walter Zettl
                      Anything by Charles de Kunffy
                      Dressage with Kyra
                      A Gymnastic Riding System using Mind, body & Spirit, Betsy Steiner
                      I must be old school too! I quite like those ones.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Sylvia Locke's "The Classical Seat"

                        Anything by Jane Savoie.

                        You can replace the parrot with mirrors.
                        Some riders change their horse, they change their saddle, they change their teacher; they never change themselves.

                        Remember the horse does all the work, we just sit there and look pretty.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KBEquine View Post
                          Old-school dressage person here . . .

                          Among my favorite books, over the years:

                          Anything by Aloiss Podhajsky
                          Dressage Formula by Erik F herbermann
                          Dressage in Harmony, Walter Zettl
                          Anything by Charles de Kunffy
                          Dressage with Kyra
                          A Gymnastic Riding System using Mind, body & Spirit, Betsy Steiner
                          I love all these, too! I also just purchased Aurthur Kottas' book and it's excellent. I also just got a book called The Seven Deadly Sins of Dressage and it's pretty interesting as well.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Terry Church has a great list of dressage books on her website, all classical and natural, www.naturalsporthorse.com, there are also some wonderful articles available for download, and a forum.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              "Real Life Dressage" by Carl Hester. Talks about real horses, real problems, real solutions.

                              "Dressage School" Isabell Werth/Britta Schoffmann-breaks down each movement into what is desirable, what can go wrong,how to make it better.
                              Both the above have good photos.

                              Biomechanics is a hot topic and there are countless books out there. I particularly like Susanne von Dietze and think her new book ("Rider and Horse, Back to Back") is easier to understand and follow than "Balance in Movement".
                              one oak, lots of canyons

                              http://horsesportnews.wordpress.com/

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                for lower level dressage

                                http://books.google.com/books/about/...d=BY44YVhzUMYC
                                See those flying monkeys? They work for me.

                                Comment

                                • Original Poster

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by merrygoround View Post
                                  Sylvia Locke's "The Classical Seat"

                                  Anything by Jane Savoie.

                                  You can replace the parrot with mirrors.
                                  Thanks everyone! Gives me a reason to use those gift cards from Christmas finally.

                                  The parrot is cheaper
                                  Derby Lyn Farms Website

                                  Derby Lyn Farms on Facebook!

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Derby Lyn Farms View Post
                                    The parrot is cheaper
                                    I'm pretty sure that means that you have never lived with a parrot . . .

                                    KBEquine, who shares her house with in descending order of size):

                                    1 Greenwing macaw, 1 Yellow Crown Amazon, 1 Congo African Grey, 1 Panama Amazon, 2 budgies, 2 Linnies, ALL messy, bite-y & expensive to feed & vet! Also, all loved!h
                                    Hidden Echo Farm, Carlisle, PA -- home of JC palomino sire Canadian Kid (1990 - 2013) & AQHA sire Lark's Favorite, son of Rugged Lark.

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      My husband is writing a book that could be for you, a handbook for the training-level rider that attempts to explain the basic principles in a way that a beginner can understand, and also explains judging. Do you read e-books? Maybe we could send you the file as advance consumer testing, so to say . . . it will be out on Amazon soon. If you are interested, message/e-mail, and I'll try to figure out how to send the e-book file to you.

                                      Comment


                                      • #20
                                        I'll also put a vote in for Mary Wanless, though they can be a bit chewy . . . her last was much easier to understand, though.

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X