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Who here uses their inside leg while RISING at the posting trot?

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  • Who here uses their inside leg while RISING at the posting trot?

    Using the inside leg while rising at the trot is the only way I've ever ridden/taught. Without that ability you are not as effective at moving the horse towards the outside rein.
    I see that many people are taught to squeeze when they sit at the trot. I find that this makes the horse jet forward in a stiffer manner.
    Using the inside leg while rising activates the inside hind leg of the horse while it is in the air allowing you to move it under the horse easier causing the horse to bend through the body.
    Why am I suprised that many people don't do this normally but then when they sit they are told to ask for leg yield when the inside hind is swinging through?
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    I'd switch diagonals first. My friesian cross has balance issues, and I tend to post on the inside diagonal with her so I can better improve her balance and way of going.

    With my TB, I use whichever leg needs it whenever it needs it, regardless of where I am at the post.


    I think timing of aids is rarely taught, and to me that's the key part of your post - the very good instructors will teach it whether by telling you when to do it so you learn without even realizing you did, or having you think about which leg is moving and doing it at the right time, etc. But I think a lot of instructors don't realize the timing they're using, and therefore don't realize how to tell someone else to do it. (I'm not an instructor, but don't think I could tell someone else how to get their timing right despite the fact I instinctively do it.)
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    • #3
      What makes you think it is either/or?
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      • #4
        I use my inside leg when I need to use it, regardless of where I am in the saddle. I think the "sit and squeeze" is an okay way of maintaining your "forward," but being able to apply independent leg aids is really important.

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        • #5
          Are you talking lower leg? You shouldn't be using that all to post.

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          • #6
            Leslie Webb describes this nicely in her book "Build a Better Athlete".
            Your outside shoulder also comes back slightly at the top of your post for the half-halt.

            Agree to post whichever leg needs it for better balance, not always the outside.

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            • #7
              I rode for years before finding an instructor who taught correct timing of the aids. There are a lot of ordinary people teaching lessons who have no idea, and the beginning rider does not have the experience to know which instructor is really good. :-(
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              • #8
                You use inside leg on the upswing phase for side way movements (such as leg yield). That is the only time when the horse is able to move that leg sideway.

                You activate the leg (depending on which leg you want to activate) when you want more engagement, at the time when that leg is in the the weight bearing phase. So if you want inside hind leg to be more engaged, you activate that inside leg when you are at the "down" phase of the posting trot.

                It all depends on what you want to do.

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                • #9
                  Who here uses their inside leg while rising at the trot?

                  Moi. For the reason of activating the inside hind leg as it comes forward. And, all things being equal, I'll ask for turns and neck bend for straightening when the front leg hits the ground in the direction I want to turn.

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                  • #10
                    If I need to activate the hind leg I ask for it on the upswing. But I don't use leg continuously while I post if that's what your saying. I ask for more action and leave them alone until I need them to do something else. My legs just drape 99% of the time unless I need to ask for bend, lateral or in the event my horse needs a quick engine push.
                    Please excuse the typos...I'm always on my iPhone and autocorrect is not my friend. Yes I mean mares autocorrect...not mates.

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                    • #11
                      I was taught to squeeze inside at top of post for moving laterally, and was taught to half halt as I rise. Squeezing while rising takes some serious coordination though! *cue concentration face*

                      But I am guilty of squeeze/lift-sit on lazy boogers. As much as I'd like to say that I don't use my lower legs for forward but for lateral, I know that's not true 100% of the time on those sticky footed things

                      In fairness, I do the squeeze/lift, spur, WHIP in each stride. So I could start sitting or posting, though I typical start sitting since I can really drive. They get a three-step cue every stride for being slugs, and the pattern is stopped by correcting to a nice, forward tempo.

                      I do a lot of things wrong though. That's why I do dressage ... so I can find out how much I've been doing wrong and continue to do wrong lol

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                      • #12
                        How can you half-halt when rising ? It is a function of the seat, and would not be possible unless your ass was in the saddle.
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                        • #13
                          If you're posting the trot, it is more for rate control than a "true" half halt. It is easier — and more effective — when you're sitting the trot because you can ask with rein restriction+seat vs. asking with rein restriction+leg.

                          Because you are asking with the outside rein, you are asking the outside front leg and inside hind leg to hesitate, therefore rebalancing and rating the horse.

                          That's how it has been explained to me.

                          But I'm always open to being wrong Goodness knows I spend lots of time being just that.

                          I agree that a true half halt comes from the seat (I have a horse that you can only half halt with the seat and can't really add any rein restriction).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Equibrit View Post
                            How can you half-halt when rising ? It is a function of the seat, and would not be possible unless your ass was in the saddle.
                            If it was entirely a function of the seat, jumping and riding in 2 point with a balanced horse would be exceedingly difficult.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Eventer13 View Post
                              If it was entirely a function of the seat, jumping and riding in 2 point with a balanced horse would be exceedingly difficult.
                              Pray tell ?
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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Equibrit View Post
                                How can you half-halt when rising ? It is a function of the seat, and would not be possible unless your ass was in the saddle.
                                Half halt is initiated within the rider's core, and yes, though more difficult for the rider at the rise phase to do so, it is definitely possible, and the horse can definitely feel it.

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                                • #17
                                  Half halt is initiated within the rider's core, and yes, though more difficult for the rider at the rise phase to do so, it is definitely possible, and the horse can definitely feel it.
                                  Agree, you can still control your abdominal muscles in rising trot its just not as easy.
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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by JackSprats Mom View Post
                                    Agree, you can still control your abdominal muscles in rising trot its just not as easy.
                                    So what does that have to do with the horse ?
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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by JackSprats Mom View Post
                                      Agree, you can still control your abdominal muscles in rising trot its just not as easy.
                                      So what does that have to do with the horse ? How would he
                                      "feel it" ?
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                                      • #20
                                        I did

                                        It was the only way that made sense to me,too!
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