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    I scribe often here in Northern California. We are so fortunate to have a lovely well organized venue.....we have all the same volunteers in place at every show so it runs like a well oiled machine. That being said.......for those of you who compete, when you go past the judge's stand, please pass by so I can see your number. Please know the test you are supposed to ride, make sure your test caller knows it too. Please take off your galloping boots/bell boots before you start around the perimeter. Please know your ride time and be prompt. You have 45 seconds to come down Center Line! It is up to the rider to watch the clock, not the ring steward for you. When you check in, re-confirm your ride time via the posted day sheets. I, on my part, will be sure you can read the scores and comments because I will aways write legibly. If you cannot read my writing, get with the TD and he/she will arrange a chat with the judge. Every judge I have scribed for, and there are many of them, wants to see success for every rider who comes down Center Line. So many ride the test with you. :-) Good Luck to everyone this year. May you halt at X and finish at X on every test and may all 4 of your horses' legs stay on the ground!!! :-)
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    Thank you!

    I once told a little girl who rode my pony in a show that she needed to ride past the judge's stand so the scribe could make sure they had the right horse with the right test. Now every show, she goes straight up to the stand, gives the scribe her number, then thanks them for donating their time before warming up around the ring. It's the sweetest thing ever! Some experienced adults could learn a lot from her.

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    • #3
      Yes!

      PLEASE let us see your number. I perceive some are trying to HIDE it. I know a lot of the exhibitors and their horses. But not everyone. It is a good thing to have YOUR scores written on YOUR test.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bethe Mounce View Post
        Every judge I have scribed for, and there are many of them, wants to see success for every rider who comes down Center Line. So many ride the test with you. :-) Good Luck to everyone this year. May you halt at X and finish at X on every test and may all 4 of your horses' legs stay on the ground!!! :-)
        Thank you so much for your words and especially your tips...
        I have printed this little box and stuck it to my trailer door - its a great reminder for all of us how valuable to us you guys are!
        Merci 1000 fois!!!

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        • #5
          So I will add all of the judges I have scribed with so far (4) have wanted the horse and rider to do well. Also, so many pairs are relaxed and looking good riding around the arena and the minute the step past A they become tense.
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          • #6
            Great message! I live in Australia and also pencil at times. I am learning to enjoy it.

            We have these little dinky bridle numbers that are sooo hard to see. Riders here don't actually have to speak to the judge, but can just ride by. Supposedly we are to be able to see the bridle number, even if it's just the one on the opposite side of the horse.

            We used to have a horse who hated those number things so we started using the bigger numbers on the saddle pad. Now, after penciling, we put them on both sides on every horse! LOL Much easier to see.

            I used to think the judges were just cranky old ladies who wanted to make life difficult. Now, I sit in the car and hear them practically begging riders to go into the corners, use the whole arena and ride round circles! :-)

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            • #7
              I always say my number when passing the scribe(s). I may or may not halt depending on if the scribe is giving me eye contact. I don't always have my number on the outside when I'm going around the first time. I will always have my number on the the opposite side of which way I turn when coming down centerline (old habit, well ground in ). I've have always been thanked for saying my number, but I've always assumed everybody said their number if it was clearly displayed at least.

              The other things, well mistakes happen. I don't think anyone intentionally starts to ride the wrong test or readers intentionally read the wrong test. I've confirmed with the scribe/judge about what test I'm riding before, not because I didn't know, but because they appeared to be scrambling . But yes, I do it in a more questioning tone so I don't come off as rude or impatient. I've also had judges quickly confirm the test or my name if I stop and give my number. I smile, thank them and I'm usually told to have a nice ride or something like that.

              I do think many people fear those in the judges box, but I find when the show is not running late the judges seem to enjoy some simple exchanges of words (thank you's, have a nice day, ect.) plus there is nothing better than having the judge smile right before your ride !

              I've come a cross a handful of unpleasant judges as well, but that's just part of showing.

              My advise is to be as prepared as possible and be a pleasant person to be around. All will be well, if we all just take a deep breath sometimes.

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              • #8
                Thanks for the tips---I have a question, how do suggest handling this situation? Im extremely hard of hearing and sometimes (more often than not these days) cannot hear the bell/whistle/buzzer--should I let you know, the ring steward know or someone else?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bethe Mounce View Post
                  Every judge I have scribed for, and there are many of them, wants to see success for every rider who comes down Center Line. So many ride the test with you. :-) Good Luck to everyone this year. May you halt at X and finish at X on every test and may all 4 of your horses' legs stay on the ground!!! :-)
                  I agree with this too. I started scribing at USEA events last summer and honestly went into it with a somewhat checkered view of judges/judging. Every judge I worked with was a real pleasure and honestly seemed to be trying to reward horses and riders as much as possible. I know there are some exceptions and bad eggs out there, but overall I super impressed and had a wonderful time every time I volunteered.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by goodpony View Post
                    Thanks for the tips---I have a question, how do suggest handling this situation? Im extremely hard of hearing and sometimes (more often than not these days) cannot hear the bell/whistle/buzzer--should I let you know, the ring steward know or someone else?
                    If I were in your position, I would try to have a friend (or just recruit someone) there to give me a hand signal when the bell/whistle/buzzer sounds. I'm not sure what the scribe or judge could do for you.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mjhco View Post
                      Yes!

                      PLEASE let us see your number. I perceive some are trying to HIDE it. I know a lot of the exhibitors and their horses. But not everyone.
                      I had a famous rider assume I knew who she was by sight. I knew her name but I can't even recognize my friends if they're not dressed the same! And, just because the day sheet says that so-and-so is the next rider doesn't mean that the person around the parameter is who the day sheet says she should be. Please give me your number, so I can confirm everything is correct.

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                      • #12
                        I have been scribing when someone told the judge she couldn't hear well. So the judge said she would ring the bell when the rider was near 'C'. And to acknowledge with a nod or wave that she heard it.

                        Else, get someone to listen for you and give you a signal.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SillyHorse View Post
                          If I were in your position, I would try to have a friend (or just recruit someone) there to give me a hand signal when the bell/whistle/buzzer sounds. I'm not sure what the scribe or judge could do for you.
                          Ummmm...This...

                          So the judge said she would ring the bell when the rider was near 'C'. And to acknowledge with a nod or wave that she heard it.
                          Im just not sure who to make the request too? My husband usually tries to signal me---but its very difficult to keep your eyes on someone clear across the arena when you are navigating in a small space as often happens.
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                          • #14
                            goodpony--I would just mention it to the judge as you ride by--Can you signal me when you ring? I'm hard of hearing. I can't see how anyone would have a problem with it. There's nothing wrong with mentioning it to the judge.

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                            • #15
                              It is SO important to let the scribe know who you are. Stop, or at least transition to the walk. "Good morning/afternoon, entry number 123, doing test so-and-so. Thank you for scribing." Takes maybe 10 seconds, helps you relax, tells the horse the people are not fire breathing dragons, makes sure you are scored on your score sheet. Just a good idea all around.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by ACP View Post
                                It is SO important to let the scribe know who you are. Stop, or at least transition to the walk. "Good morning/afternoon, entry number 123, doing test so-and-so. Thank you for scribing." Takes maybe 10 seconds, helps you relax, tells the horse the people are not fire breathing dragons, makes sure you are scored on your score sheet. Just a good idea all around.
                                Agreed. Also, smile. I've been doing this for years and I think they appreciate it.

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                                • #17
                                  What we did in the dark ages was place our number so at the first turn it was visible to the scribe. If your first turn was left you put you number on the right side of the bridle and vice versa.

                                  THat way if everyone is busy or distracted the scribe has a fighting chance to have your number at the beginning of your test.
                                  “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.”
                                  ? Albert Einstein

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                                  • #18
                                    when scribing I always confirm riders identity with them

                                    [local gmo pres. was truly miffed that I asked her to confirm name ]
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                                    • #19
                                      GoodPony - I judge schooling shows, and get that request quite often - I don't think it is too much to mention as you first pass the stand, that you are hard of hearing - that way the judge can blow/ring right as you pass them. Be prepared, it may be right at that first pass. Also OK to have a friend/spouse signal to you as you pass them - you just can't have any assistance once you enter the court.

                                      I always try to let the scribe know at my first pass, #XYZ. And as a often-scribe, I appreciate it when riders do the same.

                                      As for ride times - IF the show is behind, the ring stewards need to let riders know. A good ring steward will make contact with each horse and rider at least once - to let them know who they follow and if the show is behind. A good competitor already knows who they follow and what their ride times are - and will probably make first contact to find out IF the show is on time.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by mjhco View Post
                                        I have been scribing when someone told the judge she couldn't hear well. So the judge said she would ring the bell when the rider was near 'C'. And to acknowledge with a nod or wave that she heard it.

                                        Else, get someone to listen for you and give you a signal.
                                        My hearing is bad, so not only do I stop to give the scribe and judge a moment to note my number, I also mention this to the judge. Every judge has been very accomodating to me so that I don't miss the bell - it's much appreciated
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