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WAZ students - would he endorse this?? Updated w new video pg 10.

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  • WAZ students - would he endorse this?? Updated w new video pg 10.

    The ever-spruiking Linda Parelli

    Please tell me that he does not endorse this method of teaching "contact"... From the video description:

    This small snippet is from GOC [Game of Contact] DVD 2 with, Aspen, Parelli bred raised and trained. She picks up the reins and wants the horse to flip it's nose and then take the neck down to the ground. Then she picks up the reins and holds the contact. If the horse stops when it feels the rein contact then she pulls it from side to side to maintain contact and teach it to go forward on contact.

    The Old Dead Dressage Masters all just performed a collective roll-over in their graves. I feel for WAZ, really. I liked his book, and I liked his DVDs.

    Edit: The original video went BOOM. But Parelli keeps on giving...

    Last edited by Old Mac Donald; Jul. 5, 2013, 08:26 PM.

  • #2
    My eyes! OMG, my eyes!

    Why did I watch this? It had "Parelli" on it. I was warned.

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    • #3
      But you must understand, Linda has discovered the secret!!!!!!!! WAZ and the old masters didn't have a clue.

      Looks like she's found the secret to teaching the horse to snatch the reins out of her hands.

      Yep, looks like a Parelli trained horse to me.
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      • #4
        Was anyone able to make out what she was saying? Other videos come through loud and clear but all I could get was some indistinct mumbling. Maybe it was a good thing
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        • #5
          OMGiH, that woman has NO feel whatsoever. It just freakin' blows my mind that the Parelli thing persists. Argh!
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          • #6
            Yank, jerk, pull... all she's doing is teaching the horse to pull. How long has she been riding with WAZ... She has learned ZERO ZILCH NOTHING. No wait... she's learned just enough to be more dangerous than she was before.

            It still escapes me what all the cult followers see in her...
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            • #7
              Typical. Teach one of them something like "combing the reins" and they manage to turn it into "backcombing the reins". Anything for $$.


              • #8
                Some people are just cueless.
                I have seen beginners the first time on a horse have more feel for how to ask any horse anything better than she rides there.

                I didn't get past the first try to turn and back the very bracey, resistant, uncoordinated horse.

                That was enough to know that rider doesn't has any idea of what she is doing.


                • #9
                  Oh Dear! and you only pay what...$2500 to learn how to do this?? LOL
                  someone better copy this video now or it will be gone!
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                  • #10
                    You teach the horse to snatch the reins so when they snatch the reins you can say it's on purpose?

                    A Western Dressage training technique?

                    Why is it that Western riders spend so much time not moving forward?


                    • #11
                      Quick, someone put a tracker on that horse so we can see where all the disappearing PNH horses have gone...

                      Clearly some of the kool-aid was accidentally served in house.


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by alicen View Post
                        You teach the horse to snatch the reins so when they snatch the reins you can say it's on purpose?

                        A Western Dressage training technique?

                        Why is it that Western riders spend so much time not moving forward?
                        I don't think that rider is a western rider.

                        To me, the little I watched, too painful to watch any more, that looks like a colt being started that doesn't know what is going on and is not getting any help from the similarly clueless rider.
                        Yes, their forward seems stuck and neither can figure how to get going, the colt resisting the futile attempts of a hamhanded rider with confusing requests.

                        A bad western rider would be all that plus a deep chair seat.


                        • #13
                          That's no colt, Aspen is one of there top horses and is coming 12.



                          • #14
                            I've known some great Western riders...they ride the body, not the head.

                            What this is has nothing to do with Western riding at all. It is just their (the P's) ongoing aversion to contact; thereby, creating "other" "games" in order to convince their disciples that "contact" means "tight reins" and that "P-contact" is what is needed. The P's have no idea or ability evidently to teach anything to do with contact as dressage riders know it. It would be pathetic except for the $$$$$. Otherwise known as snake oil. JMHO


                            • #15
                              First of all, who works on contact at the halt? If you're trying to teach the horse to accept contact, you don't stand there and fiddle with the reins. Send him forward and let him find the bit, then let him carry it.

                              Second, I never did see the horse accept contact, although I have to admit I zoomed through a lot of it. That's a nice horse and I don't blame him for snatching the reins away from her. I wanted to do the same thing.

                              And what diffierence would it make it you could understand what she's saying? That horse tells you everything you need to know.
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                              • #16
                                More concerned by how FAT that horse is, also set on tiny little feed and very short upright pasterns. He's one cheese burger away from Founder O.o

                                We all know Linda Parelli is terrible in the saddle. Everything about her screams control freak and a total lack of feel. I'd like to see her get on a hot blooded well bred Import, she _might_ last all of eight seconds. LOLS


                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by RougeEmpire View Post
                                  I'd like to see her get on a hot blooded well bred Import, she _might_ last all of eight seconds. LOLS
                                  Not even a well bred import... just put her on my sensitive OTTB and see what happens. It wouldn't be pretty.
                                  Last edited by BoyleHeightsKid; Apr. 17, 2012, 11:11 AM.
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                                  • #18
                                    I couldn't watch even a minute of the video. Just in the first few seconds I was confused/disgusted. You REALLY want the horse to brace against the contact of the rein when you pick up, flip his nose up, and then you RELEASE and reward that? Why, oh why????

                                    I'm with Mad Mare....I shouldn't have watched it. I was warned; it was properly labeled; and yet I watched it anyway. For shame....


                                    • #19
                                      Did Parelli's get there start in selling Amway, Melaluca, Conklin, or some other Multi-Level Marketing Scam, or WHAT?

                                      (made mistake of opening video. watched for 2.5 seconds; was all I could stomach)



                                      • #20
                                        this horseis in trouble with its neck and top line. It is rooting to try and free its hypertrophied muscles. Rider is using incorrect hand aids. which is why horse is stuck in the first place. Rein back is crooked, dragging hind feet and obvious hand aids.
                                        IOW...she doesn't have a clue! I guess that's why it's a 'SEcret Game of Contact! LOL
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