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    A discussion of crank nosebands:
    Last edited by not again; Jan. 31, 2012, 07:41 PM.
    "Where knowledge ends violence begins." B. Ljundquist

  • #2
    Originally posted by not again View Post
    A discussion ofn crank nosebands:
    I never could get a straight answer from anyone as to what purpose the crank served. Some trainers advocated them because the padding goes all around, therefore they were kinder. "Crank" didn't seem like such a kind name, however. Others tell me it's for more control of the horse.

    Since there aren't hardly any bridles around that are not crank, I just use mine in a kind way, which is that it's not tight at all.

    I like the idea of the TDs having the ability to evaluate tightness so easily.
    2012 goal: learn to ride like a Barn Rat

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    • #3
      a rational and scientific article. sadly, who will listen?


      • #4
        I'm afraid the only people who will listen to this are those of us who DO NOT NEED super tight nosebands because our horses do not gape at the mouth, stick their tongues out or cross their jaws.
        I took the cavessons off my bitted bridles oh around 35-40 years ago. Even with my hand problems from Multiple sclerosis I never put one on unless I needed to use a standing martingle temporarily or my riding teacher wants one on the horse.
        Good, educated hands do not need tight nosebands, good educated hands do not need nosebands at all.


        • #5
          Um, I'm not a fan of that taper gauge they're suggesting. First of all, it looks incredibly uncomfortable the way they have it sliding underneath the cavesson against the hair direction. Also, I forsee horses flinging their heads against the wedge that's perched on "the nasal midline", sending it flying into the face of the steward or the horse itself. There has got to be a better way.


          • #6
            Originally posted by RdEventer View Post
            Um, I'm not a fan of that taper gauge they're suggesting. First of all, it looks incredibly uncomfortable the way they have it sliding underneath the cavesson against the hair direction.
            A small discomfit compared to the length of time of wearing it in competition or training.

            "Recent evidence suggests that horses wearing tight nosebands undergo a physiological stress response,... flow." (McGreevy et al., 2012).

            I wonder what that evidence is?


            • #7
              I didn't say anything about whether crank nosebands should be legal or not. I just don't like the suggested method of inspection. I don't use a crank, but know that my horse would object strongly to being poked by a wedge in the nose.


              • #8
                Originally posted by Jackie Cochran View Post
                I'm afraid the only people who will listen to this are those of us who DO NOT NEED super tight nosebands because our horses do not gape at the mouth, stick their tongues out or cross their jaws.
                Those who think that they need a crank to solve a horse's mouth problem should not use a crank to strap the horse's mouth shut, they should figure out WHY the horse has the mouth problem and solve THAT.
                Like Jackie Cochran, I've taken the nosebands off my bridles unless I'm showing. In a show, I use no flash and put the crank on the loosest hole. I also order a French noseband--plain, no flash or crank--if I can. Otto Schumaker bridles often come with an option for a French noseband.

                "The horse you get off is not the same horse that you got on. It's our task as riders to make sure that the difference is for the better."


                • #9
                  With you guys. Tight nosebands are the tools of monkeys.

                  I use drop nosebands on first or second hole which is plenty big for my horses to eat treats. Though honestly after they are settled in their training, there's no reason for that even.

                  Btw, padded nosebands are not more comfortable. Plain old good quality leather is much gentler as it gives more and stretches some so less likely to bind. I've come to believe that the padding was put in to make the band stiffer and less able to stretch or even give. Use plain bridle for hunting and the wide band works quite well without any issues. Shoot, use a snaffle with it and can't imagine why a dressage rider would need more in a ring than I do out fox hunting.

                  If a steward can't put two fingers beneath the band, kind of says it all. Why ignore the obvious?