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  • Full time training rates by city, st

    I think I am the only one with sticker shock, and maybe hearing that I don't have it so bad will be helpful....

    From my limited CA definition of "full time training" it is ridden or lesson 5x week, plus daily turnout for an hour and feeding of supplements. Includes tack-up/down, rinse.

    What is it in other big horsey areas?

    Moorpark/Somis (Ventura), CA: $900-1000
    RSF/Del Mar, (North San Diego) CA: $900-1300 training + $400 grooming (tack up/down/rinse)

  • #2
    Are your numbers including the board? Because on this coast, those are usually lumped in.

    $1200-1800/month is what I hear for full training at competition barns, using the 5 or 6 rides (or lessons) a week as the amount of riding. The only two I know first hand are 1800 for full, and 1200 for part training.

    Board w/ 2 lessons a month included was $850 at h/j barn a couple of winters ago. I boarded for one month with the indoor.

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    • #3
      Southeastern PA: full care/training board is $1260 and includes:

      - blanketing
      - individual t/o for a minimum of 6 hours/day but usually overnight
      - free choice hay
      - supplements
      - mane pulling/body clipping as needed
      - hold for farrier/vet
      - tack cleaning
      - tack up/cool down if you want/need it
      (all of above done by the working students)
      - 5 rides or lessons/week with world class dressage trainer or equally world class event trainer
      - full use of indoor arena and outdoor arena w/ jumps
      - access to some of the best East Coast hunt country for hacking/conditioning
      - trailer parking

      For this area and the quality of the facilities and instruction (as well as the "all inclusive" nature- there is no nickel and diming), I think it's a steal. Plus the owners/trainers are great to be around and the barn atmosphere is terrific- happy horses and happy people!
      Balanced Care Equine

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      • #4
        Full training + grooming + board = $2000 - $3200 around here.

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          #5
          No board included, (that averages $800-1000 for half-covered 24x24 mare motel w alf/berm 3x a day) and thanks for commiserating...

          What is new to me is the "grooming fee" which you almost have to have if you work during the day.

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          • #6
            NC
            $900-2000/month depending on trainer's street cred and ability. Includes board typically
            5-6x weekly rides and full board care

            when you think about it... that's cheap.
            half it, and you're looking at a training cost of $25-50 per training session.
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              #7
              PetStoreJunkie --

              I did that math, too....$1200 a month for full time training is roughly $54 a lesson, or $100k a year if the trainer had a full set of clients.

              I certainly don't begrudge the good ones from making a living -- all teachers are underpaid! --- but it sure is expensive.

              I'm feeling marginally better that we're all in this together....

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              • #8
                Here in the East Bay of SF board runs from between $600-$800 month. Training will usually run the same or a bit more. This would include a stall or stall w/ paddock, an hour or so turnout, and riding/lessons 4-5 times per week. Typically one would plan to spend $1200-$2000 per month. $1200 would be a pipe stall and rides/lessons but no extras. Barns around here do extras (blanketing, grain, grooming, etc) differently, some ala cart, some include it in the training fees.
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                • #9
                  This is one of the reasons I love the Midwest though I long to return back East.

                  Full training though just 4 rides/lessons a week by a silver medalist dressage trainer, will full day or night turnout, and access to a slightly hilly field (albeit tiny) with excellent care is only $800 a month at most (when worming and such is added in) and this is with board already included. Though the commute is not so nice.

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                  • #10
                    Houston, TX
                    At my H/J and beginning dressage (Intro, Training, First) barn
                    Full care board with stall - $560 (hay shortage otherwise $500) per month
                    Lessons/rides - 5x per week $500 per month

                    I just had my mare in training for the past 3-4 weeks while I was injured and OMG the improvements the H/J made on her flatwork is amazing! Now I just need to work on me...
                    Originally posted by Sithly
                    do NOT give your 5 year old child a big bag of apples and send her out alone into a herd of 20-some horses to get mobbed. There are better ways to dispose of unwanted children.

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                    • #11
                      The bigger barns here were 1200 upper Louisiana and lower int he bigger cities.
                      ~~Member of the TB's Rule Clique ~~
                      http://www.off-breed-dressage.blogspot.com/

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                      • #12
                        Chicago area will run you about $1000- $1500 for just full training with someone accomplished (GP level) this usually includes full care of horse (grooming for trainer)... depending on barn an amenities it ranges from $550- $900. For a full training I would budget right around $2,000/month.
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                        • #13
                          I don't know what's typical in the Seattle area but my BNT is $800 for full training + $800 for board... So $1600 total

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                          • #14
                            MA, close to Boston: full training (typically 5-6 sessions per week) and board starts at about $1500 (rare) but can easily hit $2000, especially as one gets closer to Boston. Turnout varies across barns but few have enough IMO!

                            I had my horse at a good barn with a good trainer in NH (about 1 hour from Boston, maybe a bit more, not at rush hour) and was paying $1425 for board and full training. 3 to 8 hours of TO per day depending on the season.

                            Current barn is $740 for full board, and one is required to be in some sort of weekly lesson program, either with BO or the jumpers trainer. I choose the latter, because he's better for my needs even though I don't jump, and that's another $220 - $275 per month depending on how many Saturdays there are. I also pay ~ $250 month for a weekly dressage lesson with a trainer who comes to the barn one day per week.
                            You have to have experiences to gain experience.

                            1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia "More Valley Girl Than Girl Scout!"

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                            • #15
                              I board in Las Cruces, NM not much down here in the way of competant Dressage Trainers - maybe 2 or 3. Luckily I work with an extremely competant H/J trainer who is great with young horses. Training/board is $450/m. I admit the barn is rude so I do alot myself - full service down here is rare. All I ask for is quality hay, a good arena with decent footing graded regularly(that is rare around here), a place to turn out when I want to, someone to put on remove blankets while I'm at work. My horse is happy and well cared for.

                              I was in San Diego for many years with my previous horse - Full service Board/Training $1200/m in Carmel Valley just south of DelMar. Ouch on my salary but I did it for a while.

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                              • #16
                                LA county with an excellent up and coming trainer. $650 full training includes feeding supplements and turn out on non-riding or lesson days. Another $500 for board and trailer storage. I pay the barn help $30 a month to blanket.

                                I think I'm getting the deal of the century. Better instruction, for me, than I had from a BNT and my horse is very happy and doing great.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by 3Spots View Post
                                  I think I am the only one with sticker shock, and maybe hearing that I don't have it so bad will be helpful....

                                  From my limited CA definition of "full time training" it is ridden or lesson 5x week, plus daily turnout for an hour and feeding of supplements. Includes tack-up/down, rinse.

                                  What is it in other big horsey areas?

                                  Moorpark/Somis (Ventura), CA: $900-1000
                                  RSF/Del Mar, (North San Diego) CA: $900-1300 training + $400 grooming (tack up/down/rinse)
                                  That's about right for southern California, yes. Board is extra.

                                  I haven't normally been charged a fee to tack up for the trainer, but I am used to being charged a fee of about the same magnitude for feeding supplements, putting on blankets or fly masks, and turning the horse out daily.

                                  I usually paid for two sessions a week, which could then be used either for a lesson or a trainer ride, to save money.
                                  If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put that thing in your mouth, particularly if the thing is cats. - Lemony Snicket

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                                  • #18
                                    Moorpark/Somis:
                                    $850 for 5 days training. No grooming fee for days the trainer rides. Also includes 2x daily supplement feeding (owner provides supplements) and 6x weekly turnout with boots.
                                    $200 full grooming (owner doesn't have to do anything).
                                    $50 blanketing (only charged in cold months)

                                    Silver medalist trainer, trained in Europe with olympic chef d'equipe, experience starting and showing young horses in international competition.

                                    I've never been at a barn in the LA area that included "tack-up/down, rinse" in the monthly training fee. It's ALWAYS been extra, usually around $200 per month.

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                                    • #19
                                      I'm near Cincinnati, OH and only charge $550 for full care board plus training 5 days per week (including all grooming, tacking, untacking, etc). I have a nice but small barn at home and I don't really show much or try to make much of a name for myself. I have a small, great group of clients who send their young horses to me (dressage horses and trail horses). I ride second level and do basic jumping (2'6"). Horses get free choice hay, tons of turnout, excellent care. I usually keep whiskers/manes done, etc...

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                                        #20
                                        Believe it or not, everyone's responses ARE making me feel better! And in some cases (Boston), much, much, better, lol.

                                        I was okay with $1500/month/horse, but the move to San Diego has added another $1000 to the bill. Crazy making. I'm just amazed that so many people can afford it -- or can afford not to work and do the training/riding themselves

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