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File Under DQ Emergency--I love my jumping saddle??!

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  • File Under DQ Emergency--I love my jumping saddle??!

    Hi all,
    For the last decade, just about, I've ridden almost exclusively dressage, in a dressage saddle. Before that I was a t-level eventer and 3'6-4ft ft jumper rider. I have a young horse now, who was started in a Wintec Isabelle and now goes in a nice Passier Optimum.

    As part of his "gen-eds" I figured he should learn low level jumping. So, I pulled my old Crosby out of storage (moldy, discolored, old fashioned panels, probably circa early 1990's) and went to work.

    I assumed I'd hate riding in this tiny (16.5"!), old, jumping saddle. I assumed it would feel alien and strange, and the horse and I would go badly at first...

    BUT! I LOVE riding in it! The horse goes great! I'm doing sitting trot, canter transitions, hacking out, and feeling like a million bucks! The dressage work we're doing in the saddle is awesome. The hacks and gallops in 2-pt are great. What's going on? It is an old nostalgia for jumping coming back to me? Or is there some benefit to riding in a jumping saddle occasionally, even if one is a confirmed DQ? Thoughts? Or do I need to turn in my DQ card?
    2007 Welsh Cob C X TB GG Eragon
    Our training journal.
    1989-2008 French TB Shamus Fancy
    I owned him for fifteen years, but he was his own horse.

  • #2
    Originally posted by SisterToSoreFoot View Post
    Or is there some benefit to riding in a jumping saddle occasionally, even if one is a confirmed DQ? Thoughts?
    They are called "sanity rides" "off discipline days" "hacks out" "cross training" and are recommended once a week on a 5-6day/week dressage plan. Even the top riders do something other than dressage with their dressage horses on a regular basis to cross train. It's good for their brains and their bodies.
    My horse has his dressage saddle, a cross country jumping saddle (because mommy is a hot mess to a fence and needs seatbelts!), and a trail/endurance saddle. I alternate. One week we go for a ride in the jumping saddle, and may just breeze, or we will hit the cross country course, or the stadium jumps. then the next week our "off day" will be bitless in the trail saddle and explore the 600 acre farm I board at. OR we trailer some place new for some exploration in whatever tack needs to be used.
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    • #3
      No, it's that you got better. You have transcended DQ status to get to some pure, next-to-God, Xenophon status.

      You discovered that

      1) All the riding you have done just made your seat good. It's good in whatever saddle because

      2) You know how to ride a horse correctly in any tack.

      Enjoy the diversity. But let me know if you can also master a saddlebred type saddle.
      The armchair saddler
      Politically Pro-Cat

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      • #4
        DQ here too. Have a customized dressage saddle on order and nothing to ride my 4 year old in for the next 6 weeks. So, in the process of buying a jumping saddle. I haven't jumped or ridden in a jump saddle for 20+ years. Feels like I'm on a postage stamp on the top of a mountain, but I love the close contact feel and my green 4 year old is happy. I also have a Reinsman western saddle that I ride my retired PSG mare in. So much fun to be diverse and brings a new perspective to your riding!

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        • #5
          If you're that much more comfortable in your jumping saddle, it's quite possible your dressage saddle doesn't fit you (and maybe not your horse, either) all that well. Be critical and notice what exactly feels better about the Crosby... less width under your crotch? (the twist of your Passier may be too wide for you... and that can make it difficult-to-impossible to sit the trot/canter well)... no tip in your pelvis/"crunch" in your lower back (Passier seat perhaps not big enough or rise of cantle too steep for you)... etc.
          Patience pays.

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          • #6
            By any chance is your saddle an original Crosby Centennial? If so, I have one and I can ride dressage all day long in it. Perfect balance and fit for me.

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            • #7
              OMG! I had this problem too!

              I recently bought a Kieffer dressage saddle since I am a hunter-jumper convert.
              I missed my close contact so much, I sold it and immediatley bought a new Bates.
              I feel much more secure and my mare seems to move more freely too.

              I would ride in the jumping saddle if you feel that much better in it.
              I think you only have to have an actual dressage saddle when you get to PSG... but don't quote me on it.
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              • #8
                I took lessons in and showed lower level dressage in my teens (miss it so much, hope to be able to get back into it someday when funds allow) and my trainer's riders rode in all kinds of saddles...my own was an all purpose. I've actually never ridden in a dressage saddle, but I've schooled some third level! And our barn always did pretty well at shows.
                *Wendy* 4.17.73 - 12.20.05

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                • #9
                  I dug out my old bareback pad a few weeks ago and I can't believe how well the horse goes also. He moves so nicely with just a hint of kreuz, weight and leg. He goes well in his treeless dressage too, but this is so much fun!
                  Groom to trainer: "Where's the glamour? You promised me glamour!"

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                  • #10
                    wow, i literally just got back from my riding evaluation (to school horses at the therapy center I volunteer at) and it was my first time riding in a close contact saddle in over a year and I had the exact opposite feeling! totally hated it, the horse was also drastically different than what I'm used to so that didn't help. eventually i gave up on stirrups and that made it slightly more tolerable, hahah...maybe if it had been on a horse i'm used to I would've felt differently

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                      #11
                      Thanks for all the replies.

                      The saddle is a Crosby Olympia, but some unusual version with extra padding on the flap. Never seen another one like it, googled it to death and no image matches up w/ it.

                      Does it fit me better than my Passier?

                      I don't know. The Crosby is teeny tiny (16.5) and the Passier might be a 17.5 or even 18. I have lost a bit of weight, so maybe the smaller saddle fits me better now?? I feel perfectly comfortable in the Passier, but something about this moldy old Crosby feels especially good.

                      Both saddles are good fits for my horse. The Crosby is extremely close contact and small in the seat...something about that combo works for me, I guess.
                      2007 Welsh Cob C X TB GG Eragon
                      Our training journal.
                      1989-2008 French TB Shamus Fancy
                      I owned him for fifteen years, but he was his own horse.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SisterToSoreFoot View Post

                        The saddle is a Crosby Olympia, but some unusual version with extra padding on the flap. Never seen another one like it, googled it to death and no image matches up w/ it.

                        Anything like these?

                        Exselle Olympia

                        Ruiz Diaz Olympia

                        Crosby label

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                        • #13
                          Just a thought... Is your horse a really wide guy? I notice on my wide-shouldered Arab, it's easier for me to balance in a jumping saddle because I don't have to spread my hips as wide. I love my dressage saddle, but I definitely have to stretch more to get the same balance, because of the straighter leg position.

                          Oh, and I have the opposite experience on narrower horses - it's easier for me to ride them in my dressage saddle.

                          Enjoy having a well balanced saddle!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by alto View Post


                            Hey Alto...it's none of those, though it is similar. The padding on the knee and thigh area of the flap is thinner, and continues all the way down the flap. It was a weird display model, which makes me wonder if it was some custom job or short run model?? It's very cool looking, but I let it get beat up and moldy in storage [Anyone have a good anti-mold rememdy, btw?]

                            Oh, and MVP--"some pure, next-to-God, Xenophon status"--
                            I wish!!! Haha. The lovely ride where I had all the 9 canter trot transitions etc was the same ride where I feel off earlier when pony spooked way out in a field and I had to chase him with my crappy boots with the faulty back-zip...Still, talk about a good recovery. Thankfully both pony and I have a good sense of humor about such things.
                            2007 Welsh Cob C X TB GG Eragon
                            Our training journal.
                            1989-2008 French TB Shamus Fancy
                            I owned him for fifteen years, but he was his own horse.

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                            • #15
                              You might try either of these 2 products to inhibit mold,

                              Effax Mildew-Free
                              Leather Therapy Restorer & Conditioner

                              Pretreatment with vinegar or a dilute bleach or ammonia solution (never mix bleach & ammonia) can be done but is very drying to the leather; just cleaning the saddle normally & then use of a mold-inhibiting conditioner does work (consider storage conditions - if tack room is a supportive environment for mold spores, your tack will continue to be reinfected so use the conditioners frequently).

                              Now we need a photo of your saddle

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