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Anyone Want to Switch Their Horse's Shoes to What Fuego Wears?

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  • Anyone Want to Switch Their Horse's Shoes to What Fuego Wears?

    Interesting and unusual!

    http://hoofcare.blogspot.com/2011/10...its-whats.html
    "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier

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    It's like shape-ups for horses
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    • #3
      I want some, bet they are expensive if you can find them.

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      • #4
        Very interesting....thanks for posting this.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by manentail View Post
          I want some, bet they are expensive if you can find them.
          Especially if you have to fly your farrier in from Italy!

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          • #6
            Very cool!

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            • #7
              Italian shoes: they have always been the best.

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                #8
                "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier

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                • #9
                  Sliding shoes for reiners. Weighted shoes for SBs and rackers.

                  Now we're going for shoes that will help our dressage horses perform movements. I don't see these as being good. In the sense that when we start adding crutches and additional specialty needs for our horses to perform the movements of dressage we have stepped far away from what dressage is supposed to be: the training of the horse and helping him develop movements he naturally performs in the field.
                  "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"

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                  • #10
                    Well, interesting, but not surprising. As it says, at the very top, it's getting to be the little things that count, and the archaic way of shoeing horses has been around a long time. At least trying something that might be more beneficial is a good idea, though I dunno about that one. I did just get some Vibrams, and the difference in walking and how my feet feel with them versus other shoes is amazing. You'd think we could do that more for horses, where their feet can move and spread like they're supposed to and have protection as needed.

                    I kind of agree with Velvet, too. Dressage tends to be so gimmicky anyway, and I can see people getting out of control with this. Really horses should be able to do all of this barefoot and sound for the most part. (Yes, mine are.) Of course there are variations, but what are we doing when we're getting into such specialized shoes. I can see how those shoes would dig into the footing and give more support in pirouettes and such, but they seem very odd on harder flat ground, like those platform shoes that break your ankles if you fall sideways.

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                    • #11
                      Are they to help the horse's perform movements? Or to help the horse's stay sound, by reducing the amount of stress on the joints?

                      My immediate thought, before reading the article, was worry along the lines of what Velvet wrote, but I'm all in favor of shoes that keep a horse sound.

                      Horse shoes, shoeing methods, computer modeling of movement and imaging have come a long way to make things better.

                      I'm pretty sure I wouldn't magically have piaffe and passage installed on my horse if I just took those shoes and convinced my farrier to use them. In fact, I bet the amount of diagnostics and analysis that goes into a shoe choice like that is pretty cost-prohibitive for the vast majority of riders.

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                      • #12
                        My concern is what increase occurs to the impact forces upon the sole of the foot? By design it would appear that the impact forces upon the sole would increase over normal shoeing or barefooting. There should then be long term negative results which will then being to appear in the foot and lower joints. Just questions I would ask.

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                        • #13
                          I know several horses, mine included, who I think could benefit from using a shoe like this a temporary and/or corrective shoeing, especially if they actually do take the pressure off the hoof wall.

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                          • #14
                            I have two horses in Eponas, and both of them have worn the sides a bit rounded. Not that extreme of course, but does make you think.

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                            • #15
                              What I got out of the article, is that perhaps the footing is causing new problems with torque since with the geotextiles the hoof stays on top of the footing. Although it provides cushion to help with concussion, it sounds like things such as ten meter circles and steep half passes, pirouettes, etc. may be causing more problems with ringbone and other torque related issues. Now I might reconsider putting GGT in the round pen...

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                              • #16
                                Reminds me a bit of the wooden horse shoes: http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=11718

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Velvet View Post
                                  Sliding shoes for reiners. Weighted shoes for SBs and rackers.

                                  Now we're going for shoes that will help our dressage horses perform movements. I don't see these as being good. In the sense that when we start adding crutches and additional specialty needs for our horses to perform the movements of dressage we have stepped far away from what dressage is supposed to be: the training of the horse and helping him develop movements he naturally performs in the field.
                                  This is exactly what I was thinking while reading the article.
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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Velvet View Post
                                    Sliding shoes for reiners. Weighted shoes for SBs and rackers.

                                    Now we're going for shoes that will help our dressage horses perform movements. I don't see these as being good. In the sense that when we start adding crutches and additional specialty needs for our horses to perform the movements of dressage we have stepped far away from what dressage is supposed to be: the training of the horse and helping him develop movements he naturally performs in the field.
                                    Do we call it a crutch when a football player wears a special shoe that Nike made just for them? Or how about all those Air Nikes that basketball players wear? And I don't think that football players are going to wear the same shoe as a basketball player.

                                    What makes it ok for human athletes to wear shoes specialized for their sport and/or surface they are playing and not ok for athletic horses? Human athletes wear all kinds of protective and specialized gear that is suited for their individual sports. Tennis players don't wear cleats and golfers don't wear slick soled bowling shoes. My point being, is that different sports require different footwear... why shouldn't that also pertain to different disciplines of riding. After all, the sport of dressage is so not like the sport of barrel racing other than it is done on the back of a horse.

                                    If there is technology out there that will help relieve the physical stress of performance for our horses ... what is so wrong with that?

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                                    • #19
                                      "Hans continues, "As the competition arenas become stiffer (less penetrable) due to the use of geotextile-type surfaces, the large amount of sideways work dressage horses perform (pirouette, small circles, shoulder-in etc.) can, in selected cases, be facilitated by the use of these shoes.'"


                                      My question is, Why are we making competition arenas stiffer? Is that better?
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by SaddleFitterVA View Post
                                        Are they to help the horse's perform movements? Or to help the horse's stay sound, by reducing the amount of stress on the joints?
                                        They reduce the breakover sideways on the hoof allowing the hoof to be able to get off the ground quicker and easier

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