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  • Apropos of nothing

    I ran across this video on Youtube and found it very pleasant to watch (including the hat!) I have no idea who the rider or instructor is. The poster seems to be a breeder.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3UoI...eature=feedwll

    Enjoy!
    "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain" ~Friedrich Schiller

  • #2
    Normally I'd bitch about no helmet, but that really is one cool hat.
    Donald Trump - proven liar, cheat, traitor and sexual predator! Hillary Clinton won in 2016, but we have all lost.

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    • #3
      Collected trot????? Um, she needs to learn more about dressage. Try jog trotting. That would be more correct terminology for what I saw that horse doing in the video.
      "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"

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      • #4
        Maybe if she did a bigger trot the hat would fall off? Or flap up and down like Dumbo's ears?

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        • #5
          a bigger trot might make her fly off like Sally Fields ("The Flying Nun")

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          • #6
            Unfortunately I agree. It's soft and obedient, and the rider seems to have a nice position, but this is the typical jog-trot of baroque type horses. Many revert to this by nature and while it feels nice and maybe looks pretty, it isn't correct. They often need time to learn to open up without being hot and rushy.
            Proud COTH lurker since 2001.

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              #7
              It is a schooling video. Listen to the audio. The instructor says the mare maintains collected trot for 1-3 strides at a time.

              (instructor's accent= dutch?)
              "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain" ~Friedrich Schiller

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Eclectic Horseman View Post
                (instructor's accent= dutch?)
                Nee, niet Hollands.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Coreene View Post
                  Nee, niet Hollands.
                  Hmmmm, German? Most decidedly NOT spanish, either.
                  "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain" ~Friedrich Schiller

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                  • #10
                    detectives...

                    There were palm trees in the background....

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                    • #11
                      From the description:
                      "I have found a completely natural, gentle, connected and effective way of riding thanks to trying some new techniques. These methods are about getting the horse straight and strong in the back and "through" before asking for higher level movements"

                      I don't see anything new about having a horse through and strong enough to do the work? Obviously I'm a noob and doing this dressage thing totallt wrong.

                      I agree on the jog-trot. I kept waiting for something to happen to get that horse tracking up....

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                      • #12
                        i think it is in really bad taste to pull a video of an random rider and bring it here to be deconstructed by the masses.

                        honestly please remove the link.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by mbm View Post
                          i think it is in really bad taste to pull a video of an random rider and bring it here to be deconstructed by the masses.

                          honestly please remove the link.
                          Umm,the poster posted it on Youtube to be viewed by the great unwashed. There could be no more public a place to post a video.

                          I reposted it here because it caught my eye when looking at something else, and I found it aesthetically pleasing. To those watching without audio, they may not understand what it is, but from the trainer's comments, it is the first attempts to school the horse in a new way, and she is getting some very beginnings of collection here, and done in a soft, patient, quiet, encouraging way. Asking for the horse to lengthen its neck and raise its withers. I think it is lovely and the rider and trainer should be proud.

                          Regarding the palm trees, I assumed that the video was shot somewhere that they traditionally breed PREs or Lusitanos. Spain or Brazil. And that was intriguing too, with the trainer speaking heavily accented english that was decidedly not spanish or portuguese.
                          "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain" ~Friedrich Schiller

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                          • #14
                            The accent sounds German or Austrian. She's in California.

                            Paula
                            He is total garbage! Quick! Hide him on my trailer (Petstorejunkie).

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                            • #15
                              well at least it says that it is being posted here so the owner will be able to come and be torn apart

                              anyway, posting something on youtube is not the same as posting it on a bb for comment. and i know the OP enjoyed it but i also know that COTH being what it is, will be not nice things said etc etc all about an ammie that doesn't even know they are being torn apart.

                              i thought there were rules against thing kind of thing?

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by paulaedwina View Post
                                The accent sounds German or Austrian. She's in California.

                                Paula
                                I was thinking Austrian (?)

                                I do think the work is patient and encouraging, and I liked that the trainer asked the rider to go forward whenever the horse seemed to loose too much of the desire to go forward. It was a bit "joggy" but I agree that there were strides here and there that were getting it, and the whole thing was low pressure and relaxed, which I thought was lovely.

                                So, at one point the instructor was trying to get the rider to understand the feel of lifting the front end, and said to feel like bicycling backwards. I thought that was an interesting and nice analogy.

                                I'd really hate to stumble across a video of me riding that had been posted here by somebody else, and then read a bunch of less than encouraging comments. I know the OP posted it as something lovely, but COTH is, well, COTH.

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                                • #17
                                  The problem I have is the use of the term "collected" (YouTube poster's words, not mine) in the video. Maybe she was learning a bit about gaining more engagement for very brief moments, but it was not "collection."

                                  That's my disagreement. Maybe she needs to hear that. Maybe she needs to realize that, yes, you can slowly encourage things out of your horse, but using incorrect terminology is misleading at best.
                                  "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"

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                                  • #18
                                    IMO, we can all learn from watching others ride. There need not be anything negatively connotated so long as any observations are presented only for the purpose of making general references to riding techniques that might apply to anyone.

                                    In this video I see the beginnings of the creation of a circle of aids, that becomes interrupted primarily with the riders contact. The horse seems to respond by carrying itself and occasionally asking for more support from the rider.

                                    I see a very sensitive and intelligent horse who I think would be interesting to see go with a more experienced, sensitive, and relaxed rider, to then see the comparison of how the horse reacts with that different rider, and then learn from that comparison.
                                    Last edited by alterhorse; Oct. 21, 2011, 08:35 PM.

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                                    • #19
                                      I agree with mbm. The internet is a difficult place. There are many times people post something for the benefit of family, friends and colleagues, and it ends up going 'public'. That said, AWESOME HAT!
                                      "Rock n' roll's not through, yeah, I'm sewing wings on this thing." --Destroyer
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by kinnip View Post
                                        I agree with mbm. The internet is a difficult place. There are many times people post something for the benefit of family, friends and colleagues, and it ends up going 'public'. That said, AWESOME HAT!

                                        There are many, many places to post photo and video on line that have security so that access is limited only to those people who you expressly allow. Totally free, too.

                                        Putting a video on Youtube is the modern day equivalent of hanging it in the public square. There is a sidebar and a search feature that encourages strangers to check out different videos and just surf Youtube in general.

                                        That does not mean that I think that the people who post their videos on Youtube "deserve" to be trashed. But it means that I think that I shouldn't worry about what mean people may say about someone who has broadcast their video there. I can only be responsible for myself, and I have never, and will never, post or repost a video or photo of someone for the purpose of ridiculing or deriding them.
                                        "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain" ~Friedrich Schiller

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