• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Apropos of nothing

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Apropos of nothing

    I ran across this video on Youtube and found it very pleasant to watch (including the hat!) I have no idea who the rider or instructor is. The poster seems to be a breeder.


    "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain" ~Friedrich Schiller

  • #2
    Normally I'd bitch about no helmet, but that really is one cool hat.
    Donald Trump - proven liar, cheat, traitor and sexual predator! Hillary Clinton won in 2016, but we have all lost.


    • #3
      Collected trot????? Um, she needs to learn more about dressage. Try jog trotting. That would be more correct terminology for what I saw that horse doing in the video.
      "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"


      • #4
        Maybe if she did a bigger trot the hat would fall off? Or flap up and down like Dumbo's ears?


        • #5
          a bigger trot might make her fly off like Sally Fields ("The Flying Nun")


          • #6
            Unfortunately I agree. It's soft and obedient, and the rider seems to have a nice position, but this is the typical jog-trot of baroque type horses. Many revert to this by nature and while it feels nice and maybe looks pretty, it isn't correct. They often need time to learn to open up without being hot and rushy.
            Proud COTH lurker since 2001.


            • Original Poster

              It is a schooling video. Listen to the audio. The instructor says the mare maintains collected trot for 1-3 strides at a time.

              (instructor's accent= dutch?)
              "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain" ~Friedrich Schiller


              • #8
                Originally posted by Eclectic Horseman View Post
                (instructor's accent= dutch?)
                Nee, niet Hollands.


                • Original Poster

                  Originally posted by Coreene View Post
                  Nee, niet Hollands.
                  Hmmmm, German? Most decidedly NOT spanish, either.
                  "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain" ~Friedrich Schiller


                  • #10

                    There were palm trees in the background....


                    • #11
                      From the description:
                      "I have found a completely natural, gentle, connected and effective way of riding thanks to trying some new techniques. These methods are about getting the horse straight and strong in the back and "through" before asking for higher level movements"

                      I don't see anything new about having a horse through and strong enough to do the work? Obviously I'm a noob and doing this dressage thing totallt wrong.

                      I agree on the jog-trot. I kept waiting for something to happen to get that horse tracking up....


                      • #12
                        i think it is in really bad taste to pull a video of an random rider and bring it here to be deconstructed by the masses.

                        honestly please remove the link.


                        • Original Poster

                          Originally posted by mbm View Post
                          i think it is in really bad taste to pull a video of an random rider and bring it here to be deconstructed by the masses.

                          honestly please remove the link.
                          Umm,the poster posted it on Youtube to be viewed by the great unwashed. There could be no more public a place to post a video.

                          I reposted it here because it caught my eye when looking at something else, and I found it aesthetically pleasing. To those watching without audio, they may not understand what it is, but from the trainer's comments, it is the first attempts to school the horse in a new way, and she is getting some very beginnings of collection here, and done in a soft, patient, quiet, encouraging way. Asking for the horse to lengthen its neck and raise its withers. I think it is lovely and the rider and trainer should be proud.

                          Regarding the palm trees, I assumed that the video was shot somewhere that they traditionally breed PREs or Lusitanos. Spain or Brazil. And that was intriguing too, with the trainer speaking heavily accented english that was decidedly not spanish or portuguese.
                          "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain" ~Friedrich Schiller


                          • #14
                            The accent sounds German or Austrian. She's in California.

                            He is total garbage! Quick! Hide him on my trailer (Petstorejunkie).


                            • #15
                              well at least it says that it is being posted here so the owner will be able to come and be torn apart

                              anyway, posting something on youtube is not the same as posting it on a bb for comment. and i know the OP enjoyed it but i also know that COTH being what it is, will be not nice things said etc etc all about an ammie that doesn't even know they are being torn apart.

                              i thought there were rules against thing kind of thing?


                              • #16
                                Originally posted by paulaedwina View Post
                                The accent sounds German or Austrian. She's in California.

                                I was thinking Austrian (?)

                                I do think the work is patient and encouraging, and I liked that the trainer asked the rider to go forward whenever the horse seemed to loose too much of the desire to go forward. It was a bit "joggy" but I agree that there were strides here and there that were getting it, and the whole thing was low pressure and relaxed, which I thought was lovely.

                                So, at one point the instructor was trying to get the rider to understand the feel of lifting the front end, and said to feel like bicycling backwards. I thought that was an interesting and nice analogy.

                                I'd really hate to stumble across a video of me riding that had been posted here by somebody else, and then read a bunch of less than encouraging comments. I know the OP posted it as something lovely, but COTH is, well, COTH.


                                • #17
                                  The problem I have is the use of the term "collected" (YouTube poster's words, not mine) in the video. Maybe she was learning a bit about gaining more engagement for very brief moments, but it was not "collection."

                                  That's my disagreement. Maybe she needs to hear that. Maybe she needs to realize that, yes, you can slowly encourage things out of your horse, but using incorrect terminology is misleading at best.
                                  "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"


                                  • #18
                                    IMO, we can all learn from watching others ride. There need not be anything negatively connotated so long as any observations are presented only for the purpose of making general references to riding techniques that might apply to anyone.

                                    In this video I see the beginnings of the creation of a circle of aids, that becomes interrupted primarily with the riders contact. The horse seems to respond by carrying itself and occasionally asking for more support from the rider.

                                    I see a very sensitive and intelligent horse who I think would be interesting to see go with a more experienced, sensitive, and relaxed rider, to then see the comparison of how the horse reacts with that different rider, and then learn from that comparison.
                                    Last edited by alterhorse; Oct. 21, 2011, 08:35 PM.


                                    • #19
                                      I agree with mbm. The internet is a difficult place. There are many times people post something for the benefit of family, friends and colleagues, and it ends up going 'public'. That said, AWESOME HAT!
                                      "Rock n' roll's not through, yeah, I'm sewing wings on this thing." --Destroyer


                                      • Original Poster

                                        Originally posted by kinnip View Post
                                        I agree with mbm. The internet is a difficult place. There are many times people post something for the benefit of family, friends and colleagues, and it ends up going 'public'. That said, AWESOME HAT!

                                        There are many, many places to post photo and video on line that have security so that access is limited only to those people who you expressly allow. Totally free, too.

                                        Putting a video on Youtube is the modern day equivalent of hanging it in the public square. There is a sidebar and a search feature that encourages strangers to check out different videos and just surf Youtube in general.

                                        That does not mean that I think that the people who post their videos on Youtube "deserve" to be trashed. But it means that I think that I shouldn't worry about what mean people may say about someone who has broadcast their video there. I can only be responsible for myself, and I have never, and will never, post or repost a video or photo of someone for the purpose of ridiculing or deriding them.
                                        "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain" ~Friedrich Schiller