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  • Spin off: Who wants to watch intro level? seriously

    my golf addict co-worker doesnt watch golf.
    he hates watching it.

    i have to confess that i love dressage and i do enjoy watching grand prix

    but i dont go to the local shows cause no one rides above 2nd level and the idea of watching the same 10-15 people riding intro/training every time, well yawn.

    i understand the people watching who have some emotional investment in it.
    "They'll be no butter in hell."

  • #2
    then don't watch....there, problem solved.
    Humans don’t mind duress, in fact they thrive on it. What they mind is not feeling necessary. –Sebastian Junger


    • #3
      I do enjoy watching Intro & lower levels for the young (& not so) horses "getting it" and the new-to-dressage riders doing the same.

      IMW(orthless)O there is a lot of not-so-nice to watch stuff happening at GP.
      Horses jammed into a frame and cranked up riders.
      Can we say Rollkur-esque?

      But to each......
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      • #4
        A low level hunter show is pretty boring too. A low level tennis match is pretty boring. So what? It is for the people particpating to get experience and get out there. And their family and friends are having a blast.


        • #5
          At what level are you riding?

          If your skills are higher than level 2 (higher level at shows surrending your area), then I would understand the yawning but if not, I would suggest you take some time and go watch some classes.

          Lets say you are at training level, even if it looks boring, you could learn a lot by watching what is going on at your level or just a tad higher. Understanding mistakes, looking at scores afterward and find comparision with your own riding in order to have a better understanding of what the judges are looking for.

          Sometime people are just not passionate enough to see what can be interresting and learn from others riding (both do's and don't) even at the lower levels.
          ~ Enjoying some guac and boxed wine at the Blue Saddle inn. ~

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          • #6
            I agree that you can learn a lot by watching the lower level classes. All those Grand Prix horses and riders you so enjoy had to start at the lower levels themselves - it would have been really interesting and worthwhile to see the path they took to get to the Grand Prix level, what methods worked that allowed them to excel, what didn't and they had to change, etc. Just my opinion.
            *Wendy* 4.17.73 - 12.20.05


            • #7
              Depends. If you are watching them in a "show" mindset, as you wish to be wowed and thrilled, sure, low levels are rather boring; OK. GPs are rather boring, a selected few excepted.

              If you are watching as if you were riding the tests, it gets rather interesting; you see a mistake, and thought, darn I make that same one; or thought, I wish I had done that piece better, and so on and so forth. One thing I start to realize is, training level is actually a tough one, much tougher than many realize, to do it right that is, and I'm not talking about just riding the darn patterns right.


              • #8
                Why even post about this if it's so boring to you? I don't get the point of the post. The intro & training classes are for people and horses to gain experience. They're not really intended as a spectator sport.


                • #9
                  Yes, they are boring... So is tennis, golf, baseball and NASCAR, IMO.

                  I like watching the lower levels. It's educational. If I can see "Oh, that horse is falling out through the corners" or "Oh, THATS what my trainer/coach/whomever means by riding forward through the halt".

                  Watch and learn. Or go rent an action movie for entertainment.


                  • #10
                    Watching intro anything generally is boring. So dont waste your time if you get nothing from it... go ride your horse on that Sat. or Sun., save your spectating for bigger shows, and watch videos of the experts.

                    That said, I'd rather be at a up-to-2nd lvl show than at a JV girl's LAX game...


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by amm2cd View Post
                      Yes, they are boring... So is tennis, golf, baseball and NASCAR, IMO.
                      Add pro bowling to the list
                      I wasn't always a Smurf
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                      • #12
                        I dunno.... I think most of the fireworks happen below Second level! To me it's like watching soccer... 90 minutes of utter monotony, then Wham! someone scores a double-pirouette and levade at G.
                        Proud COTH lurker since 2001.


                        • #13
                          Or in the case of our local show an itty bitty got through a test on an itty bitty mini who was none too pleased about flowers much less a judge in a white box. We also had a fantastic flying lead change at the canter (looked like a damn freight train coming to the judge's box). I LOVE watching the lower levels, it's the kids getting it and the horses figuring it out. You can see the aha moments when they nail the stretchy circle or the smile when the hot horse actually transitioned to the trot before running the judge over. (I for the record was hiding behind the judge for the freight train.)
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                          Originally Posted by alicen:
                          What serious breeder would think that a horse at that performance level is push button? Even so, that's still a lot of buttons to push.


                          • #14
                            And for those of us coming back down the levels with a rehab horse, even though I have shown a whole lot higher, it was way cool to nail all of our transitions and get it right at Intro B. We showed his weekend and had a great time at Intro, even with the scary straw maze, large hanging spiders etc.
                            RIP Mydan Mydandy+
                            RIP Barichello


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lost_at_C View Post
                              I dunno.... I think most of the fireworks happen below Second level! To me it's like watching soccer... 90 minutes of utter monotony, then Wham! someone scores a double-pirouette and levade at G.
                              You've been watching me!!!!
                              Originally posted by Silverbridge
                              If you get anything on your Facebook feed about who is going to the Olympics in 2012 or guessing the outcome of Bush v Gore please start threads about those, too.


                              • #16
                                I went to watch a schooling show last weekend. I looked at the ride times and test and there was a bucket load or Intro and training riders..my comment to hubby was.. "If I was judging, my eyes would be bleeding by the end of the day"

                                We got there, sat down and spent a couple hours watching and scoring rides and discussing trips between rides and what our thoughts were as far as one trip over another. We had a good time, it was entertaining and educational.. I wish my daughter had come too. Luckily, we could leave when we had out fill.

                                We'll do again when another show is nearby (and we are not entered)
                                I can explain it TO you,but I can't understand it FOR you


                                • #17


                                  'Cuz it's harder to screw up an Intro test, and I'd rather watch squiggley center lines and egg shaped circles all day long than stiff, tense attempts at more 'exciting' movements.


                                  • #18
                                    it's kinda like little league. Unless you are personally involved.. it's not as exciting as watching the world series. That's ok.
                                    "Sadly, some people's greatest skill, is being an idiot". (facebook profile pic I saw).


                                    • #19
                                      I cannot stand to watch BAD and/or unsafe riding, bad equitation, rough hands, feet all the way through the stirrups, flopping around, etc. And you can see this at Intro and up. Which begs the question as to why are these people at a show? I don't care if it is only a schooling show. When I was growing up equitation and horsemanship was a source of pride. You simply learned how to ride a horse, walk, trot, canter and had the basics down before you ever thought about showing.
                                      There are a lot of people that show that are seriously afraid of horses. The other day a gal was in the warm up and her horse started jigging and she literally started screaming bloody murder like she was being stabbed...this was a 50 year old woman. You feel sorry for someone with such fear but that is why I won't go to these local shows. If someone is so afraid and cannot control their horse then that really creates a bad situation.
                                      I love to watch any level- quality riding or people on the right track are a pleasure to watch.
                                      Last edited by NJRider; Oct. 19, 2011, 08:29 PM.
                                      "The sea was angry that day, my friends - like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli"


                                      • #20
                                        Boring? Well, yeah, but so is football! Seriously, run a few feet, body slam each other, then stand around and talk about it and wait for the commercials to be over before making another attempt. But that doesn't mean other people don't want to watch either one.
                                        "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"