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  • What do you see in this video?

    Wondering if I'm imagining things... Saw an ad on a local CL for this guy. Doesn't say where they got him, and they don't know how much/what kind of training he has had. Maybe I'm too sympathetic, but my eye is telling me he looks like he was someone's (very tolerant, willing) dressage horse now being ridden very poorly by a western/gaming rider.


    I'd be interested to see what he does with a knowledgeable rider. Am I seeing things? ETA - if you skip to about 2:00, the video is better.

  • #2
    Ugh - saw this as on CL. What are these people thinking. The horse has to be a saint......


    • #3
      Awwww, poor pony. I like him. He obviously has the attitude of a saint, putting up with that kind of riding. He does look like he's had some kind of training in the past, because he looks like he knows how to sit back and use himself. I'd like to see him after someone who knows what they're doing rides him for a bit to build up his muscle.


      • #4
        I just took a peek at a bit of the video, and if I lived near there I'd definitely go check him out!

        I agree with your thinking, he looks as though he's a dressage horse trying to interpret what the heck that woman on board is asking him to do. He's very good at counter-canter! And I think she was trying to get him to "jog" and he was all like "you want collection, right? I need some leg input here!"

        Edited to add: I watched the whole thing - I love him! What a tolerant boy he is, and he was game for anything. "Want me to jump the log? OK!" I would almost go as far as to say he tried to give her a passage at one point too. I wish she would have let him move out at the trot, hard to see what he's got under the hood.


        • #5
          Really? I saw an extremely hot, green OTTB gelding ignoring the rider. He looks to me like he's curled up in a ball, behind her leg having meltdowns. He calms down a bit towards the end, but to me he doesn't look like he's had a whole lot of reschooling once he came off the track... though he looks like he could be a nice horse with some work.
          The ninja monkeys are plotting my demise as we speak....


          • #6
            AAAGH! Someone needs to rehome him. That video preaks my heart.

            What a nice fellow.


            • #7
              Of course he's ignoring her! Did you see where her legs, seat and hands were for most of the video? Out in left field most of the time (and flying around randomly at other times). I think he's confused and crammed for sure...but I see glimmers of some sort of knowledge in there beyond the track. Of course, we'll never really know unless we see someone sit on him who knows how to ask for such things....anyone willing to go try him out?


              • #8
                Originally posted by propspony View Post
                Really? I saw an extremely hot, green OTTB gelding ignoring the rider. He looks to me like he's curled up in a ball, behind her leg having meltdowns. He calms down a bit towards the end, but to me he doesn't look like he's had a whole lot of reschooling once he came off the track... though he looks like he could be a nice horse with some work.
                I see more of this. I don't see that he was someone's trained dressage horse.
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                • #9
                  Think he's got a right lead in there somewhere??



                  • #10
                    Really? I saw an extremely hot, green OTTB gelding ignoring the rider. He looks to me like he's curled up in a ball, behind her leg having meltdowns. He calms down a bit towards the end, but to me he doesn't look like he's had a whole lot of reschooling once he came off the track... though he looks like he could be a nice horse with some work.

                    Don't mistake the left lead only, as a counter canter....that's an OTTB who just wants to go on the race lead.


                    • Original Poster

                      Originally posted by propspony View Post
                      Really? I saw an extremely hot, green OTTB gelding ignoring the rider. He looks to me like he's curled up in a ball, behind her leg having meltdowns. He calms down a bit towards the end, but to me he doesn't look like he's had a whole lot of reschooling once he came off the track... though he looks like he could be a nice horse with some work.
                      The ad itself claims he's TBxWB, so not an OTTB. and 15 years old, so unlikely to be recently OTT.

                      No telling what bit they have in his mouth, but this girl rides exactly like a lot of the gamers I know. Always revving the engine and choking the horse back, back, back. Like driving with two feet. He looks VERY confused!

                      ETA: Jeanette, I bet it is in there. If this girl is like the ones I mentioned above, kick = canter. If he's been out of work and the right lead was his weak side, he probably isn't inclined to pick it up given the choice. He's near me, but I already have too many horses and would hate to go tire-kick just to satisfy my (or COTH's) curiosity.


                      • #12
                        I don't believe that. I had an OTTB who had both leads. Watch TB's coming down the home stretch. They often change leads. The idea they have only a left lead is a fallacy.

                        I've seen more Western horses "with only one" lead than OTTB's.

                        It's the rider, not the horse's fault.


                        • #13
                          Whoops, haha! Missed that. A WB cross -- not OTTB, even more likely he's had good training somewhere back there.

                          I wonder if the rider knows one lead from the other. She made no effort to correct.

                          I'd love him -- but too far away and I've got no more $$ for horses.


                          • #14
                            I don't know, to me, he just looks too balanced to be green. But maybe he's just naturally athletic and good at looking fancy.

                            I am nowhere near an expert and I'm probably just imagining things. I do think someone should go and try him out though.


                            • #15
                              Ignoring the rider!
                              Poor guy tried very hard to follow rider's aids to Go & Whoa at the same time

                              He looks stiff & NQR to me - may be saddle related - but has a real Try.


                              • #16
                                I don't know, to me, he just looks too balanced to be green.
                                I agree... Especially in the canter work. He has no clue what his awful rider wants from him but he appears to be trying his best to give her a collected canter. Too bad he's not 8 or 10, he totally looks like a worthwhile project but I've already got one retired guy and one getting fairly close so I need a youngster. Out of curiosity, what are they asking for him and where is he located?


                                • Original Poster

                                  It's a 541 area code, but posted on Portland CL (use search term "TBxWarmblood"). The number on google comes up with other ads in Hermiston. I'm thinking they may have picked him up at one of the big sales and are trying to make money off him?


                                  • #18
                                    I like him a lot, whether he's green and naturally athletic/balanced or has had some training. I enjoyed watching the rider show off his "lead changes." Left lead, trot, left lead in the wrong direction.


                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by RedmondDressage View Post
                                      ... his awful rider wants from him ...
                                      Disclaimer, I do not know this horse or rider, but a lot of posters on the dressage forum are just plain mean! Awful rider? Let's see you ride. She seems to do ok with what looks like a naturally athletic horse that is extremely hot and green. I do not see a trained dressage horse here.


                                      • #20
                                        I'd go look at him if I was in the area… 15 is really not too old to be working with a horse like this if he's structurally not beat up from a life of hard riding. There are tons of pastures out in Oregon, so hopefully he's been bumming around one of those with most of his time! It would be worth checking him out, at least, at this price. What a sweetheart and a pretty boy. I think he could be made into something quite nice, as long as there's nothing funky going on keeping him off of that right lead.