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Wintec Officially Sucks

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  • Wintec Officially Sucks

    So, I'm at a tack store the other day and I finally drop my backside in the "new" Wintec Pro design.

    Used to be that the Pro was the one with a narrow twist and the Isabell was the one with the wide twist. It gave riders options.

    I recall meeting a rep once and they said that the Isabell could fit EVERYONE. I should have heeded that warning. They think once size fits all shapes.

    I'm now officially running away from all things Wintec and Bates. I plunked in that thing and it was WIDER than the Isabell! Felt like my hips were going to pop out at the joint. I've never had a saddle that I couldn't at least sit in for a few minutes, let alone endure riding in it to help a student with their horse. I dropped in it and immediately hopped off in pain.

    Why do they think the world is now only filled with riders who need a wide twist? Why did they abandon the rest of us who need a narrow twist?

    Oh well...back to Passier and Stubben, among others. There are more options out there. I just enjoyed having the Wintecs for breaking young horses and not having to do a lot of tack cleaning or worry if the saddle was in a more humid environment.

    I'm done. So long Wintec! (I wonder how many otheres there really are that are also disappointed and running away.)
    "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"

  • #2
    Well so much for "up grading" to the new Pro. I hate the Isabella. I like my Pro but wanted to get one with the big flexiblock knee rolls.
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      #3
      Originally posted by Miichelle View Post
      Well so much for "up grading" to the new Pro. I hate the Isabella. I like my Pro but wanted to get one with the big flexiblock knee rolls.
      Yep. Runaway! Runaway!
      "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"

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      • #4
        "Wintec Officially Sucks"

        What are you, 12?
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          #5
          Originally posted by TheHorseProblem View Post
          "Wintec Officially Sucks"

          What are you, 12?
          I hopped in Mr Peabody's Way Back Machine the other day.
          "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"

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          • #6
            I swear the snarkiness on this thread is NOT just in my inner ear.

            I think it's a good heads-up to receive. I've discovered I do better with a narrower twist, and were the "new" Stubben not working, Wintec would be a brand I would try. Now I know not to bother, at least with any brand new ones.

            So thanks for sharing, V!
            Originally posted by Silverbridge
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            • #7
              I ride two new Wintec Pro on two different horses; one is the smooth material and the other has the fake suede. I like them both and find them both to allow my legs to hang nicely and i have narrow hips, and one of the horses is WIDE. I prefer them to my older Wintec Pro that I have since sold.

              In fact we chose the Wintec Pro because it was so narrow in the twist as the owner's are older and have stiffer hips.
              Freeing worms from cans everywhere!

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              • #8
                I agree the NEW Wintec Pro has a wide twist, and is now wider in the twist than the NEW Wintec Isabell. It's not for everyone, but it's still a well-made saddle for the price and will work for plenty of folks who prefer that build. And even though it will never break in like a leather saddle, it does "relax" in the twist somewhat with use.
                Patience pays.

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                • #9
                  I loved my new Wintec Pro. I had to sell it since the panels are for a flat-backed horse unlike the older Pros. But the saddle itself was nice. It does have a wider twist but I would not say that Wintec sucks now because of that.

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                  • #10
                    My old Pro (BTW only the "Pros" are the fake suede) fits my wide Arab/Percheron about as well as any off the rack saddle is going to. I used it on my Appy with a narrower gullet when I first got it & I like how it fits ME better with the wide gullet.
                    "It's never too late to be what you might have been." George Eliot

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                    • #11
                      Hater of wintec since day 1.
                      I semi hate my bates isabell but my resale horse likes it... so I tolerate it.
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                      • #12
                        I love Wintec. I've had Pros from way back, and have a "new" one a few years old. They're one of the few saddles I can afford and fit all horses. They were the only thing I found to fit TB type withers. I haven't tried the others and don't have the money to try expensive "good" saddles, so maybe I'm clueless, but they've always done well for me.

                        PS--They've not made any horses sore, from narrow, high withered type to wide now withers, and I've ridden in them from training through GP, so I'm pretty dressage specific, not general. I've never had a "hard time" riding in them.
                        Last edited by Beentheredonethat; Oct. 4, 2011, 12:31 AM.

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                        • #13
                          I love Wintec, too. I've had a Wintec2000 for over ten years. It's still going strong. I just purchased the Wintec pro dressage with contourblocs a few years ago. It's another winner. Both fit my horse and fit me. Not only that, but the company is amazing to work with (see my old thread about the damaged pro.)

                          I wouldn't say the entire company "sucks" just because the saddle doesn't suit you.

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                          • #14
                            I also am anti-Wintec. I tried to like them, I really did. They are cheap and versatile. I had a hard time riding in them, and more times than not, even when the saddle looked like it was a very good fit, I had a sore horse...

                            I've ridden in several different models of the Dressage saddles, and the AP/jumping saddles. I just couldn't do it.
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                            • #15
                              Boo on the new Wintec Pro

                              I bought the new Pro because I liked the older model so much, thinking the new features could only make the saddle better ... and ended up sending it back and buying the old model on clearance. Not only did the new Pro feel weird to me, but it seemed like a really weird fit for the horses, too. I was really, really disappointed with the new model But I'm glad I snatched up one of the old ones; it's a decent saddle for the price!
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                              • #16
                                I have never liked Bates and I HATE the new Isabel Werth saddle. It's horrible! The CAIR system bounces you back out of the saddle when you try to sit the trot, the saddle is hugely wide and to top it all off it is bloody ugly.

                                Not my saddle.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Miichelle View Post
                                  Well so much for "up grading" to the new Pro. I hate the Isabella. I like my Pro but wanted to get one with the big flexiblock knee rolls.
                                  I just did that but haven't gotten it yet. Don't know if it'll work because I ordered a 17" and the pro I have is a 17.5", but the 17.5" seemed like there was too much room in the seat so I decided to try the 17.

                                  What I'm looking forward to trying is the bigger thigh blocks, as I've never ridden in a saddle with big thigh blocks before.

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                                  • #18
                                    My older Pro has reasonably flat panels that with a wide gullet fit my draft cross (& myself) well. Do the older (when they first came out) saddles with the contourblocks fit (both horse & rider) the same?
                                    "It's never too late to be what you might have been." George Eliot

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                                    • #19
                                      Forget about how it fits the rider--how about the horse? YUCK! Unless you have a horse with a completely FLAT back (front to back), those awful gussets in the panels DIG into their loins! The seams of the gussets are HARD AS A ROCK. I wouldn't even sit on it with it on my horse, I truly was afraid he'd buck me to the moon!

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Beentheredonethat View Post
                                        I love Wintec. I've had Pros from way back, and have a "new" one a few years old. They're one of the few saddles I can afford and fit all horses. They were the only thing I found to fit TB type withers. I haven't tried the others and don't have the money to try expensive "good" saddles, so maybe I'm clueless, but they've always done well for me.

                                        PS--They've not made any horses sore, from narrow, high withered type to wide now withers, and I've ridden in them from training through GP, so I'm pretty dressage specific, not general. I've never had a "hard time" riding in them.
                                        Yep, I like the old ones too. The new design changes from last year are what now make Wintec suck--and only because they no longer offer the old option that worked for so many of us and our horses! They've gone for the wide only and that sucks.
                                        "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"

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