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  • DT: More Men in Dressage?

    Did any other Dressage Today readers see the article about attracting more men to dressage in the United States? Thoughts? Opinions?

    IMHO, I felt that the whole article has a slightly sexist undertone... "I agree that there's a crisis in dressage, but I don't know how we can reach the boys coming up." A crisis? Strange. Last time I went to a show, I didn't recall any of the female riders cat fighting over placings with the men rushing around breaking them up. Crisis. Odd use of diction, I think.

    So what do all of you ladies (and gents!) think?
    And this is the story of your red right ankle.

  • #2
    It's a magazine-only article, so there is no way anyone can offer an opinion without reading the magazine.
    Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

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    • #3
      Do you really want stallions mixing with mares? I do hear mares are sometimes okay with geldings.
      "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Young Equestrian View Post
        Odd use of diction,
        That's what she said! OK, I couldn't resist, given the subject.
        From now on, ponyfixer, i'll include foot note references.

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        • #5
          Well, I haven't read the article, but one of the main reasons that I hesitate to show professionally, or even go to clinics provided by major political players, any more has been due to the influx of very competitive women.

          Unlike the military men who were the basic founders of dressage, the modern female is undisiciplined in the sport and quit often duplicitous (two-faced) and perfectly willing to cause a serious accident or injury, while saying *it* was an *accident*.

          And, yes, I have been invited to dinners with the Chef (dressage) in Region II and to dinners with Pan Am judges (Texas), as well as other social events of equal caliber.

          I have ridden in the clinics and shows.

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            #6
            Originally posted by LexInVA View Post
            It's a magazine-only article, so there is no way anyone can offer an opinion without reading the magazine.
            Oh, calm down. There are quite a few DT readers on here. For those of you who are not subscribers, here is a short synopsis:

            The article interviewed a bunch of the top male riders who said that there weren't enough men in dressage and then proceeded to talk about fashion and how fabulously Edward Gal dresses.
            And this is the story of your red right ankle.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Young Equestrian View Post
              The article interviewed a bunch of the top male riders who said that there weren't enough men in dressage and then proceeded to talk about fashion and how fabulously Edward Gal dresses.


              Maybe that's why?

              BTW, I'm a straight, married guy with kids and I like dressage. I'm even trying to learn it.

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              • #8
                [QUOTE=BaroquePony;5856145]Unlike the military men who were the basic founders of dressage, the modern female is undisiciplined in the sport and quit often duplicitous (two-faced) and perfectly willing to cause a serious accident or injury, while saying *it* was an *accident*.

                QUOTE]

                seriously?!?!
                Originally posted by Sithly
                do NOT give your 5 year old child a big bag of apples and send her out alone into a herd of 20-some horses to get mobbed. There are better ways to dispose of unwanted children.

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                • #9
                  I thought the whole issue was kinda lame. I really liked the training challenge article about Wetten Das, but come on, who are your readers, DT?

                  It seemed unfair to sift through the dressage clinic submissions to find some boys to critique.

                  They have the baroque issue, the breeding issue, now the boy issue?
                  2012 goal: learn to ride like a Barn Rat

                  A helmet saved my life.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BaroquePony View Post
                    Unlike the military men who were the basic founders of dressage, the modern female is undisiciplined in the sport and quit often duplicitous (two-faced) and perfectly willing to cause a serious accident or injury, while saying *it* was an *accident*.
                    BaroquePony.
                    Is the last part of your statement after the 'and' made in jest?

                    I do believe that there is much duplicitious attitudes in dressage and that is equal for men and women. Personal integrity in life in general is vanishing into the void and the entire horse world has its share in all venues.

                    Addressing the article;
                    More men in dressage would be nice, however, one must ask the men why they do not participate rather than make assumptions. What prevents males from striving for upper levels of competitive dressage, much less what prevents males from competiting at lower levels?
                    I believe it would be productive for dressage if there was a system created to do an indepth survey of male riders and discover their reasons for not participating in dressage. Of course the survey and results should come from outside a dressage based institution such as DT.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mildot View Post


                      Maybe that's why?

                      BTW, I'm a straight, married guy with kids and I like dressage. I'm even trying to learn it.
                      Masochist?
                      Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dragonharte8 View Post
                        BaroquePony.
                        Is the last part of your statement after the 'and' made in jest?

                        I do believe that there is much duplicitious attitudes in dressage and that is equal for men and women. Personal integrity in life in general is vanishing into the void and the entire horse world has its share in all venues.

                        Addressing the article;
                        More men in dressage would be nice, however, one must ask the men why they do not participate rather than make assumptions. What prevents males from striving for upper levels of competitive dressage, much less what prevents males from competiting at lower levels?
                        I believe it would be productive for dressage if there was a system created to do an indepth survey of male riders and discover their reasons for not participating in dressage. Of course the survey and results should come from outside a dressage based institution such as DT.
                        It's just like the Army screaming about the fact that the officers they want to keep are leaving in droves. Things are just not working in their favor and most of the problems are solely the fault of the institution and culture.
                        Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mike Matson View Post
                          Do you really want stallions mixing with mares? I do hear mares are sometimes okay with geldings.
                          Speaking as a mare, I prefer mixing with stallions.

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                          • #14
                            agreed, it 's not a "crisis"

                            Crisis. Odd use of diction, I think.




                            I agree save "crisis" for the mid east, budget and EHV-1`






                            Originally posted by Young Equestrian View Post
                            Did any other Dressage Today readers see the article about attracting more men to dressage in the United States? Thoughts? Opinions?

                            IMHO, I felt that the whole article has a slightly sexist undertone... "I agree that there's a crisis in dressage, but I don't know how we can reach the boys coming up." A crisis? Strange. Last time I went to a show, I didn't recall any of the female riders cat fighting over placings with the men rushing around breaking them up. Crisis. Odd use of diction, I think.

                            So what do all of you ladies (and gents!) think?
                            breeder of Mercury!

                            remember to enjoy the moment, and take a moment to enjoy and give God the glory for these wonderful horses in our lives.BECAUSE: LIFE is What Happens While Making Other Plans

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mildot View Post


                              Maybe that's why?

                              BTW, I'm a straight, married guy with kids and I like dressage. I'm even trying to learn it.
                              Do you have any brothers who are single?

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by SnicklefritzG View Post
                                Do you have any brothers who are single?
                                He's legally single (AFAIK) but he's of the Gal persuasion, so if you are a woman that might not work out too well.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by TickleFight View Post
                                  Speaking as a mare, I prefer mixing with stallions.
                                  Practice! Patience! Persistence!
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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Young Equestrian View Post
                                    IMHO, I felt that the whole article has a slightly sexist undertone... "I agree that there's a crisis in dressage, but I don't know how we can reach the boys coming up."
                                    So what do all of you ladies (and gents!) think?
                                    Maybe if the girls let them win?

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by alicen View Post
                                      Maybe if the girls let them win?
                                      Yeah, that would probably do the trick: Make women not place so that they could stroke the male ego. Oops! I just let some of my angry feminist out again.

                                      Oh, Dressage Today, how your quality has waned!
                                      And this is the story of your red right ankle.

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                                      • #20
                                        Here are some dressage men for ya:

                                        http://www.phelpsphotos.com/copyrightPhotos/108435.jpg
                                        2012 goal: learn to ride like a Barn Rat

                                        A helmet saved my life.

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