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    Trailering changes at today’s fuel prices

    Let’s say that you are taking your two horses to a show and have room for a friend’s horse. Is $3.00/mile a reasonable rate to charge?
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    I dont know. Right now, if anyone wants to double haul, Id just charge them 1/2 of my fuel costs to and from the show.... and be happy about the extra help at this point.
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    • #3
      That's kind of my take on it. I trailer with friends and usually we will split the gas costs plus I'll braid her horse for her.

      If someone tried to charge me $3.00 per mile when they were already going, I'd have to stay home. I can't afford to spend $300 to haul 50 miles to a show and back.

      If someone was making the trip solely for me, $3.00 per mile would still seem ridiculously high to me.

      Spectrum.

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      • #4
        no...$3 a mile is way too high. If I fill my extra spot I charge half the gas of the total trip. I'm not a commercial hauler and obviously don't carry cargo insurance however I do carry liability.

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          #5
          Last time someone hauled my horse to a show (two weeks ago), I paid for gas both ways. Even though she was also taking her own horse, I figured it was wear and tear on her own truck and trailer, she had to pay for insurance, etc. The least I could do was pay the fuel costs. It was about 240 miles round trip and the total cost came to about $160 – less than $1.00 per mile.

          I was just quoted $3.00/mile by someone else to go to a show in another state. Round trip would be about 800 miles, so I was looking at paying $2400 in trailering charges to get to this one show. Then there were the entry fees, hotel rooms, food, gas for my car, etc., etc., etc.

          I have a feeling we will be staying home a lot this summer.

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          • #6
            are you a commercial hauler? sounds like a slippery slope insurance wise. . .

            when I was given trailer rides I would pay all the gas and my friends hotel room (which we shared) since she was buying the tires and vehicle and so on.
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            • #7
              I think I'd find a new friend!! That's ridiculously high!

              I just got a quote from a commercial shipper...1200 miles in a BOX stall for $1400. Much less than I expected.

              I'm with the others...splitting the gas...MAYBE paying all the gas, but not $3.00/mile.

              Another thing your "friend" should consider is if she is charging commercial rates, then should there be a accident, there could be issues regarding her insurance (or lack thereof as a commercial shipper).
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              • #8
                Originally posted by DownYonder View Post
                Let’s say that you are taking your two horses to a show and have room for a friend’s horse. Is $3.00/mile a reasonable rate to charge?
                not really a "friend" then is it?

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                  Originally posted by STF View Post
                  I dont know. Right now, if anyone wants to double haul, Id just charge them 1/2 of my fuel costs to and from the show.... and be happy about the extra help at this point.
                  Ditto.

                  Originally posted by DownYonder View Post
                  Last time someone hauled my horse to a show (two weeks ago), I paid for gas both ways. Even though she was also taking her own horse, I figured it was wear and tear on her own truck and trailer, she had to pay for insurance, etc. The least I could do was pay the fuel costs.
                  That was very thoughtful. I'm sure you'll have no trouble getting a trailer ride from your friend again!!
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                  • #10
                    I think that's high if you're already going to the show...especially if you're taking two horses and adding just their one. I would stick closer to gas, maybe a touch higher. We just hauled a horse for a little less than $1 a mile and we still came out ahead. Of course, we were making a special trip on Memorial Day, and spending 6 hours on the road doing it so we charged more than just gas. Even at a little less than $1 a mile we still made $100.

                    Also, wanted to add, I can see charging more if the horse is a problem traveller.
                    Last edited by jesterjigger; May. 27, 2008, 08:32 PM. Reason: Added problem hauler...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DownYonder View Post
                      Let’s say that you are taking your two horses to a show and have room for a friend’s horse. Is $3.00/mile a reasonable rate to charge?
                      Personally, I think that is a ridiculious amount to charge, especially since there is an open slot and its not like they are making a special trip there just for you...Me and a friend went to a rated show last month and split the fuel costs 50-50. Her truck and trailer, she had two of her own horses on the trailer and there was an open slot for mine. It was fair in my opinion.

                      Honestly though, this whole gas situation has me rethinking what shows I am going to and which ones I am crossing off the list. Being a full time college student, and a full time parent (kids and ponies!), I am having to reevaluate my showing goals for this year.

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                      • #12
                        When I take a friend I charge them 1/2 the gas or we might trade out something. For example they may pay for the tack stall at the show.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by STF View Post
                          I dont know. Right now, if anyone wants to double haul, Id just charge them 1/2 of my fuel costs to and from the show.... and be happy about the extra help at this point.
                          That's reasonable and fair, and doesn't put you in a commercial hauler situation.
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                            Originally posted by class View Post
                            not really a "friend" then is it?
                            Tee-hee, that's exactly what I thought. I've known this person for a long time, though, so I wasn't surprised.

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                              trailering and sharing the gas

                              I think most people expect to pay 1/2 the gas. I think that it is wonderful if the 'extra' rider paid for all of the gas...there is wear and tear on the trailer and the responsibility of driving. However it may be too much for the 'extra' to pay for all of the gas these days. The other responsibilities probably wouldn't add up to that much money.
                              I think that in the past paying for all of the gas was good. The owner of the vehicle buys and maintains the truck and trailer! That is a big investment for someone else to get to use for just part of the gas used on that particular trip.
                              However, all this said...you are not supposed to BENEFIT from hauling unless you are a licensed hauler and have insurance that would cover that. You may be found more liable in case of an accident if you were making a profit from hauling. (At least that is how I have understood the situation.)

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                              • #16
                                Chris, my H/J trainer just got a quote from shipping a horse from FL to TX and it was between 800-1500 depending on which Co. That was approx. 1500 miles loaded.
                                So a 1.00 a miles or less and that was with professional hauler insurance, etc.

                                1.50 a mile tops and much less if its a "friend"....
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                                  Originally posted by STF View Post
                                  Chris, my H/J trainer just got a quote from shipping a horse from FL to TX and it was between 800-1500 depending on which Co. That was approx. 1500 miles loaded.
                                  So a 1.00 a miles or less and that was with professional hauler insurance, etc.

                                  1.50 a mile tops and much less if its a "friend"....
                                  Agreed, we just shipped one from NY to Georgia for $1000 (925 miles), so about $0.92/mile. And that was in a box stall on an air ride "big rig."

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                                  • #18
                                    We once had a "friend" try that on us. Uh uh, no siree Bob! That "friend" is trying to charge you triple what a commercial hauler - with insurance, logs, State Police checks, special class license and all would charge you. It would actually be cheaper to ship commercial.
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                                    • #19
                                      doubt you'll find too many commercial haulers available to cart one horse from your home barn to show and back for the kind of prices being quoted here -- those prices are for scheduled loads with multiple horses being shipped

                                      if you want to go to the local show your choices are pretty much a) invest $$s in trailer and hauling vehicle and gas or b) pay whatever to hitch a ride in an available space
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                                      The reports states, “Elizabeth reported that she accidently put down this pony, ........, at the show.”

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                                      • #20
                                        say my truck/trailer combo set me back $40,000 (that's not too fancy)
                                        say I average 6 shows a year with 200 mile round trip
                                        say I plan on keeping that combo for 10 years

                                        I've spent over $3.30 per mile BEFORE fuel and maintenance
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                                        The reports states, “Elizabeth reported that she accidently put down this pony, ........, at the show.”

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