• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

(End of our dressage road post 176) I am an idiot.

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • When I studied in Ireland under an internationally known dressage trainer, one of the biggest 'ah-HA' moments was when she said, "Any horse can do any THING, if you take into consideration its mental and physical abilities and condition." This was into a student wondering how he was to do a canter turn on the haunches on what was probably a Belgian. "He's not going to do it like a thoroughbred, but he CAN do it."

    I suspect if the OP had been shopping for a potential upper level horse, she knows enough (even under the influence :-) ) to have selected something more 'typical'.

    One of my students in SC started with a little horse that was put together by committee (and not one that saw eye-to-eye) - and got more out of that horse than it or its maker ever intended. She is now a breeder of breathtakingly beautiful WBs.

    So, OP - your young mare will more than likely do just fine - as long as her reality and your ambitions are in line.

    Equine Photography in the Northeast


    • Originally posted by MyssMyst View Post
      Add in comments about the disciplines my husband and kid favor, and I'm ready to take a dressage whip to the tushes of some DQs, while holding a dressage foam finger in the other hand.
      While imagining this is fun, it's probably not legal. I usually just look them in the eye and say "bless your heart" and leave it at that. If they continue to bitch and moan I turn around and say "if it weren't for Arabians, you wouldn't have YOUR breed so STFU" but it really hardly ever comes to that. Most of the time a "bless your heart, wouldn't it be boring if everyone wore the exact same thing and rode the exact same test on the exact same horse?"

      Yes, I like ribbons. Yup, if I can find a way to do it, I'm rocking a colored coat with gray breeches. My husband wants a reiner or cutter. My oldest son wants a saddleseat horse. My youngest wants a western pleasure horse (complete with long tail). GET OVER IT. I'm just happy that my family can all enjoy horses, even if everyone has different tastes in what they want to do. The breed circuit is a way we can all show together. What is there to criticize about that? Oh, and the Arab show crew at this barn utterly ROCKS.
      This is why the breed show circuit is SO MUCH FUN. Because you get to show with all kinds of different disciplines, see all kinds of riders, and the barn parties are the best
      Michael: Seems the people who burned me want me for a job.
      Sam: A job? Does it pay?
      Michael: Nah, it's more of a "we'll kill you if you don't do it" type of thing.
      Sam: Oh. I've never liked those.


      • We and our friends have been showing Arabs and Arab crossbreds in both the breed shows and the 'real' dressage world of USDF/USEF shows. We do well at both and enjoy having a good time. We haven't encountered any breed prejudice and here in the South - think the greater Atlanta, GA, area - people tend to show a lot of different breeds and types of horses. Yes, if you want to be long-listed for the Olympics someday, you might think about a warmblood. But at one recent USDF/USEF show, well attended as to numbers of horses, the high score First Level horse was an Arabian, ridden by a Young Rider!


        • Original Poster

          It's not most dressage riders, really most are great. It's just that few who are really obnoxious, lol. And they happen to be the loudest I have a ball on my Arab cross, and that's really all I should care about in the end.
          Proud member of the Snort and Blow Clique


          • Original Poster

            Updated pics of maresy:



            I can't believe this tail: https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...28605210_n.jpg

            I keep trimming it, and it just grows and grows. I give up.

            And my gelding:


            Proud member of the Snort and Blow Clique


            • Your mare is such a cutie! I have a paint/percheron/belgian who looks a bit like her. Not a GP horse but we have fun at schooling shows, and he's calm enough to throw a husband on
              "Here? It's like asking a bunch of rednecks which is better--Ford or Chevy?" ~Deltawave


              • That. Tail. *gasp*


                • Originally posted by skippy60 View Post
                  That. Tail. *gasp*
                  I've got a Haflinger with a tail like that...it's a bear!

                  Good luck with your mare. Your gelding is very handsome! .


                  • definitely get a pro to start her/ get her going for you; for yourself, find a Centered Riding instructor; there are several in your area, one a judge; the other a paraolympian
                    breeder of Mercury!

                    remember to enjoy the moment, and take a moment to enjoy and give God the glory for these wonderful horses in our lives.BECAUSE: LIFE is What Happens While Making Other Plans


                    • Originally posted by MyssMyst View Post
                      Updated pics of maresy:

                      I can't believe this tail: https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...28605210_n.jpg

                      I keep trimming it, and it just grows and grows. I give up.
                      Oh for a problem like yours! She is seriously cute.


                      • Originally posted by meupatdoes View Post
                        I don't think you're an idiot.

                        My thoughts are as follows:

                        1. Since it is September now and she is 3, I am guessing she is pretty late in her 3yo year. She is probably physically ready to get started to saddle and start on a program of going for walks through the hills with 15 minutes of WTC arena schooling here and there. Fall is a very nice time to ride a young horse through the hills, and if you are consistent and make slow but steady progress you can catch the leaves before they turn.

                        2. I don't think it will be NECESSARY to do ground work for as long as you are contemplating, but if you WANT TO because you are interested in learning the skill then now is as good a time as any.

                        3. If you have a pro come out and work with her and you 2 or 3 times a week for the next 6 months I don't think you will recognize yourselves. You'll be able to come back to COTH and tell everyone a giant "SO HA!"

                        Agree with this. Especially #3 - get some help and eyes with the ground work. Better to learn correctly the first time.
                        Also your description of her spook and her attitude after the spook - good grief that is marvelous. How wonderful to get back into horses with one so level headed.

                        Ignore the naysayers and enjoy returning to the fold
                        "Never do anything that you have to explain twice to the paramedics."
                        Courtesy my cousin Tim


                        • That is not a tail. That is a relative of Cousin It.
                          If i smell like peppermint, I gave my horse treats.
                          If I smell like shampoo, I gave my horse a bath.
                          If I smell like manure, I tripped.


                          • Original Poster

                            Originally posted by DottieHQ View Post
                            That is not a tail. That is a relative of Cousin It.
                            This made my night!
                            Proud member of the Snort and Blow Clique


                            • Original Poster

                              Miss Mare was ridden for the first time this week!
                              Proud member of the Snort and Blow Clique


                              • Original Poster

                                Video of the gelding (Friday). Please pardon the quality, this was taken with my crappy camera phone:


                                Cross-posted to H/J, since I'm thinking of going jumper with this guy. We are testing out a new dressage trainer on Saturday, and I'm thrilled. Watched a few lessons from this trainer this past weekend, and learned loads. Will try to get video of my mare in the next little bit. Wish I'd gotten video last night, it was hilarious. She stood in the middle of the arena doing her best Arab impression (halter pose complete with the dragon-snort thing).
                                Proud member of the Snort and Blow Clique


                                • Original Poster

                                  We've had our little draft mare in under saddle work for four months. It has become very painfully obvious over the last two that she HATES being ridden. Long story short, we had a discussion with her training team, and we all agree that it is just best for her at this point if we end our dressage road. She's miserable, we're miserable, the trainers are miserable... It's just not working for anyone. She does, however, excel at groundwork and really enjoys working (especially long lining). Just not being ridden. After some serious discussion about what tasks make her happy and what it's obvious she hates, we've decided to give her driving training over the next two months and see if she's happier there. It's what she's bred and built to do. We gave riding a good try, but it's just not for this mare. At least, not at this point in time. If in a few months we're all still not working out, we'll have to discuss some other options.

                                  On the flip side, I've had a chance over the last month to work with a new dressage trainer with my gelding, and we're very happy. We've noticed a LOT of improvement very quickly. I look at us now and from where we were a month ago I don't recognize us. So not giving up on dressage as a whole Just with one horse.
                                  Proud member of the Snort and Blow Clique