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Double Lunging--what do I need? (And where can I find it?)

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  • Double Lunging--what do I need? (And where can I find it?)

    I'd like to introduce my youngster to double lunging. Here's what I have so far:

    1. A four year old who has been ground driven, lunged in SR (I don't like them anymore, he was fine with them) and Vienna reins. He is very good about lunging and about lines flopping all over him, behind his but, etc. (He's half welsh, driving seems to be in his blood!) I've also ground driven him in open fields so he is respectful of his handler in all positions.

    2. A good heavy caveson.

    3. A surcingle with rings all over it.

    4. A plain lungeline and a lungewhip

    5. A pair of driving lines that are too short for double lunging.

    So, what else do I need? Where can I find good lines that are long enough? Will 2 lungelines do, or is there a better option?

    Also, what are some good resources for learning how to double lunge? My trainer knows how to do it so I will be consulting her, but I wouldn't mind doing some reading as well.

    Any other comments on/experiences with double lunging would be welcome, too. Thanks!
    2007 Welsh Cob C X TB GG Eragon
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    I owned him for fifteen years, but he was his own horse.

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    Re: lines

    My suggestion, buy these http://www.sstack.com/Western_Traini...eb-Long-Lines/

    or these
    http://www.nationalbridle.com/product-p/1-1232.htm

    and break the pulleys off.

    I have the ones in the second link. I actually had to cut some of the length off. IMO, longe lines aren't designed for long lining. They don't slide through the surcingle rings smoothly, and some are too "fluttery".

    You can't go wrong shopping for lining equipment at a saddle seat equipment shop. We line a LOT.
    ::Sometimes you have to burn a few bridges to keep the crazies from following you::

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    • #3
      I got these from Dover and I like them a lot. Especially for the price: http://www.doversaddlery.com/product...&ids=116029799

      I use this surcingle with a saddle pad underneath:
      http://www.doversaddlery.com/fleece-...-30139/cn/109/
      Boyle Heights Kid 1998 16.1h OTTB Dark Bay Gelding
      Tinner's Way x Sculpture by Hail to Reason
      "Once you go off track, you never go back!"

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      • #4
        I have a pair of nice long lines you are welcome to borrow... (for those not in the know, the OP and I board together).

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BoyleHeightsKid View Post
          I use this surcingle with a saddle pad underneath:
          http://www.doversaddlery.com/fleece-...-30139/cn/109/
          Using a pad under the surcingle is a good idea. It helps stabalize it, especially if you aren't using a crupper. I don't like using a saddle pad because I'm always catching the lines on it, but you can buy a driving pad, or you can make one with a folded terrycloth towel and some electrical tape.

          This one http://www.ehorseequipment.com/produ...&page=2&cid=26 is actually made for a tail set which means the straps will accomodate a wider surcingle than an actual driving pad would.
          ::Sometimes you have to burn a few bridges to keep the crazies from following you::

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          • #6
            I like to use both a breast collar and crupper when lunging on lines to keep the sursingle centered (probably not necessary, but I'm paranoid). I'm also curious to know the reasoning behind choosing to use a lunging caveson versus a bitted bridle at this stage (since he ground drives)? FWIW, I lunged my 3yo on two lines with a bitted bridle a few times before I backed her--having her understand what each 'rein' meant (along with voice commands for go/stop) made the backing experience much less stressful for both of us.

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            • #7
              you are longlining on a circle - there is a great video about it on Horsehero - but you have to be a member

              I loved longlining my boy - don't do it much with him anymore as he doesn't need it. Get to start the 2 yr olds this fall though and looking forward to it.

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              • #8
                I've long lined a good bit, on various breeds and have never needed a breast collar or a crupper.

                It's important to use a caveson or a snug fitting halter with a greenbean that's unbalanced or not experienced so they don't get banged in the mouth when they make a mistake. I would also do this with a person who is not experienced in lungeing or long lining for the same reason
                Boyle Heights Kid 1998 16.1h OTTB Dark Bay Gelding
                Tinner's Way x Sculpture by Hail to Reason
                "Once you go off track, you never go back!"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BoyleHeightsKid View Post
                  I've long lined a good bit, on various breeds and have never needed a breast collar or a crupper.
                  Like I said above, I'm paranoid--I grew up with draft horses doing farm work and logging--we ALWAYS used collars and cruppers when working (babies or otherwise) for safety. Does a 900lb 2yo riding breed horse need them? Probably not. But considering how quickly they go on, I'd rather have them there and never need them than the reverse.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BoyleHeightsKid View Post
                    I got these from Dover and I like them a lot. Especially for the price: http://www.doversaddlery.com/product...&ids=116029799
                    I've had these for...9 years? LOVE them.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BoyleHeightsKid View Post
                      I got these from Dover and I like them a lot. Especially for the price: http://www.doversaddlery.com/product...&ids=116029799

                      I use this surcingle with a saddle pad underneath:
                      http://www.doversaddlery.com/fleece-...-30139/cn/109/
                      I have the Dover lines, too, and really like them. For me, the lines are all that are really necessary. Although I start mine with surcingle and lungeing cavesson, I will also double lunge horses further along using a saddle with stirrups fixed where I want them for rings, and attaching the lines to the bit. That way I can get on and ride if I wish. I've also double lunged a very softy-mouthed horse using a halter over the bridle instead of a cavesson. Lots of roads to Rome....

                      First time I saw double lungeing was in a clinic with Lilo Fore-- she used 2 regular lunge lines, the saddle, and the bridle-- the technique was her quick response to a horse who was evading straightness by throwing his haunches out, which she used the outside line to correct. It worked beautifully for her-- and later, at home, for horses I've had here.
                      http://www.tunnelsendfarm.com

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