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What if Dressage Shows were like this?

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  • What if Dressage Shows were like this?

    http://www.casalusitana.com/festa.html

    The photos speak for themselves. This is the answer to get spectators!
    Last edited by baroqueNheart; Aug. 5, 2011, 10:55 AM. Reason: wrong link

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    It says "content not found" when I click on the link

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      #3
      Do you have a facebook account?

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        #4
        I must have not copied in the entire link...it should work now.

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          I have a FB account, and I get the same error. I am logged in.

          Edit: Even with the corrected link, it's still not working. Did you use the public link?
          Proud member of the Snort and Blow Clique

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          • #6
            Tricorn hats are going to save dressage?
            "In order to really enjoy a dog, one doesn’t merely train him to be semi-human. The point of it is to open oneself to the possibility of becoming part dog."
            -Edward Hoagland

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              @ wayside- that's the only picture you saw? No Tricorn hats are not what I am suggesting.

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                Ok here is a link to the photos on their website. http://www.casalusitana.com/festa.html

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                • #9
                  Love their horses and their Open Barn Days are a lot of fun.

                  I think what the OP meant was having a dressage show with a live orchestra, demonstrations of other horseback activites, etc...ya know...fun.

                  Instead of "Ssshhh, if you squeek out a fart you'll spook the horse and rider!" :P
                  You jump in the saddle,
                  Hold onto the bridle!
                  Jump in the line!
                  ...Belefonte

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                  • #10
                    I love the baroque breeds, but a breed show is not a dressage event. The breeders (like the Arab breeders in the '70's & early '80s) love flash & such, but none of this has anything to do with dressage.

                    Heck, if you like this sort of thing, try Scottsdale (the big Arab show).

                    But I still don't get the connection with these sort of breed shows/exhibits and dressage...

                    Unless you mean having open bars available...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MistyBlue View Post
                      Love their horses and their Open Barn Days are a lot of fun.

                      I think what the OP meant was having a dressage show with a live orchestra, demonstrations of other horseback activites, etc...ya know...fun.

                      Instead of "Ssshhh, if you squeek out a fart you'll spook the horse and rider!" :P
                      I think this as well.

                      I was at a clinic where a USDF Certified 4th Level "trainer" needed 2 people to help her mount and during the entire lesson everyone was frozen because they could not move or make noise per the direction. I was unhappy because I had a bag of potato chips and was starving! The whole thing reeked of irony. It was a young but not a "baby" horse, this trainer is overall afraid of riding most horses.

                      I think this type of thing makes horses more scared or nervous....

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by trainingtree View Post
                        I think this as well.

                        I was at a clinic where a USDF Certified 4th Level "trainer" needed 2 people to help her mount and during the entire lesson everyone was frozen because they could not move or make noise per the direction. I was unhappy because I had a bag of potato chips and was starving! The whole thing reeked of irony. It was a young but not a "baby" horse, this trainer is overall afraid of riding most horses.

                        I think this type of thing makes horses more scared or nervous....
                        Re-reading, I think you mean the "don't move or make a sound!" attitude makes horses more nervous? I'd agree with that!

                        Dressage interspersed with live orchestras, speed games, rides, and a general party atmosphere might bother a lot of dressage riders who aren't used to it - but I think it would help horses! It would make things more interesting... but the dressage might just become the bathroom break time.

                        I've only had a live band pass by while I was riding once, and my horse didn't care. Actually, it was a marching band he couldn't see on the other side of a wall which started playing as we were going by. With that horse, it was the overhead ski-lift like people mover which scared him. But I was a kid riding in a 4-H bareback class and believe I still placed top 10. I'd be more bothered by that in a dressage show where my horse is supposed to be relaxed and focused on me. Like anything, though, regular exposure to freaky things makes them just ho-hum everyday things.
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                          #13
                          When I look at the photos I see happy horses and spectators having a good time. I'm not suggesting speed games and a marching band, but the atmosphere created in this open barn day can be emulated. I see this as what's possible.

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                          • #14
                            Re-reading, I think you mean the "don't move or make a sound!" attitude makes horses more nervous? I'd agree with that!

                            Yup, that is what I meant! I still have not gotten over waiting until the end of her lesson to tear into my potato chips!

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                            • #15
                              love the mounted games component!

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                              • #16
                                But I still don't get the connection with these sort of breed shows/exhibits and dressage...

                                Unless you mean having open bars available...
                                Well, won't speak for the OP but I think that last line is a bit what s/he meant.
                                Keep a dressage show a Dressage Show. But also liven those things up a bit.
                                Have normal dressage levels/tests...but also have a demo or something once in a while. Have a bar. Have a band on premises. Have a barn open for spectators to come through and see some horses close up. In a second ring have dressage horses showing off other things they can do other than a test. Hell, give pony rides somewhere on grounds.
                                More content and more fun for spectators means more attendance and attention.
                                Spectators would be more than just other dressage people. Certain disciplines aren't known for being an better than watching grass grow for the average person. (not just dressage) Joe Average or even Joe Average Horse Owner isn't going to flock to watch the same test being performed ad nauseum...boring as heck.
                                And it benefits horses and riders. Horses and riders learn they can still trot in a circle (or an oval in the lower levels ) if music is playing somewhere on grounds. A rider can still find X and halt if spectators are clapping or talking. And shows can become a hella lot more affordable if well attended...get 200 people paying a few bucks each to come for a day of fun and watch those fees drop. And watch shows become more frequent. And watch horses and riders learn how to relax.

                                Not to mention it's always a good idea to interest more non-horsie folks to horses. Keeps our industry booming.

                                It's a win/win/win.
                                You jump in the saddle,
                                Hold onto the bridle!
                                Jump in the line!
                                ...Belefonte

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                                • #17
                                  At our shows we always have music (a few have a live orchestra), lots of hooting and hollering for favorites, and parties. Still few spectators.

                                  I attended a dressage show with a friend once. The quiet was awful. I can't figure out why a horse and rider want or need silence to ride. I also think the "reading the test" thing was silly. If a 10 year old can learn and do an equitation pattern on very short notice, surely an adult can remember a test that only changes every 4 years. To me it took away from the horse's performance. I agree that watching the same test over and over is boring to the casual observer, especially at the lower levels- but I could watch musical freestyles all day long!

                                  I'd like to see shows drop the admission fee. Yeah, I know $5 or $10 a person isn't much, but for a family to come watch the "pretty horses" it can add up.

                                  Another thing I've noticed- horse show exhibitors aren't friendly enough to the general public. I make it a point to smile and be nice to people, and if appropriate I'll let them pet the nice horse or help them feed it a peppermint.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by MistyBlue View Post
                                    Well, won't speak for the OP but I think that last line is a bit what s/he meant.
                                    Keep a dressage show a Dressage Show. But also liven those things up a bit.
                                    Have normal dressage levels/tests...but also have a demo or something once in a while. Have a bar. Have a band on premises. Have a barn open for spectators to come through and see some horses close up. In a second ring have dressage horses showing off other things they can do other than a test. Hell, give pony rides somewhere on grounds.
                                    More content and more fun for spectators means more attendance and attention.
                                    Spectators would be more than just other dressage people. Certain disciplines aren't known for being an better than watching grass grow for the average person. (not just dressage) Joe Average or even Joe Average Horse Owner isn't going to flock to watch the same test being performed ad nauseum...boring as heck.
                                    And it benefits horses and riders. Horses and riders learn they can still trot in a circle (or an oval in the lower levels ) if music is playing somewhere on grounds. A rider can still find X and halt if spectators are clapping or talking. And shows can become a hella lot more affordable if well attended...get 200 people paying a few bucks each to come for a day of fun and watch those fees drop. And watch shows become more frequent. And watch horses and riders learn how to relax.

                                    Not to mention it's always a good idea to interest more non-horsie folks to horses. Keeps our industry booming.

                                    It's a win/win/win.

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                                    • #19
                                      dressage isnt about entertaining people - supposedly it is about training the horse. why do we need to make is more than that?

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                                      • #20
                                        I think "liven things up" is a great idea.

                                        I went to a "baroque horse" show. The show bill had a class:
                                        Friesian costume, NON armored - how fun is that?! And I definitely want to see the armored one too!
                                        1/2 the horses seem to be stallions - and they are under control, most of the time you don't even know they are studs. Heck, one girl was riding her stud double in the warm up - no one even blinked.
                                        Alongside the show, there was Standardbred sulky racing. People had harness classes, costume classes, dressage, hunter, western classes, all sort of classes.

                                        But the atmosphere was SO RELAXED! There is all this mayhem going on, and the horses are just hanging out. My mare got off the trailer and stepped into the ring for a LEADLINE class about 1/2 hr after arriving into this "mad house" - it was her first time off the farm in over a year. And she did fine.

                                        I was so impressed with the relaxed attitude of all participants, that I took a filly that has NEVER been on a trailer, nor off the farm she was born at there for her first experience away from home - and she can be a spooky hothead - and it went well. I am convinced that it was because everyone is just relaxed about horses there.

                                        Spectators were there too - nice, friendly people. Exhibitors were friendly to spectators, "yes, sure, pet the horse", none of this " watch out, its gonna bite and kick you" tense attitude I seem to run into at the dressage shows.

                                        I think this kind of atmosphere gets non-horsey people interested in horses, and it is new people coming into our sport that is needed to keep it alive and growing.
                                        Horses should be trained in such a way that they not only love their riders, but look forward to the time they are with them.
                                        ~ Xenophon, 350 B.C.

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