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FEI admits reining abuse

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  • FEI admits reining abuse

    I know it is not dressage but it is an FEI recognized sport.


  • #2
    This probably belongs in the Off Course forum.

    However, for a balanced view see the FEI's own press release:

    Shame that Epona couldn't/wouldn't provide unedited video footage so that perhaps something more could have been done. Where's the utter-exasperation smilie?
    Proud COTH lurker since 2001.


    • #3
      Originally posted by Lost_at_C View Post
      It is good that the warm-up incidents were looked into. I wonder why only verbal warnings were given? What I did find interesting is that it states that the FEI will now review what bits and spurs are acceptable. I have not read the FEI reining rule book but do they not currently have limitations on what tack is used as they do with dressage?


      • #4
        hmmm..... glad to see some action being taken and follow up of some kind but I just read the FEI link. What is attempting to train post competition? I have been known to leave a class and go right back to the warm up to sort out an issue on a horse. Are FEI riders not allowed to do this? I have a reforming saddleseat horse that has severe anxiety issues and I have been known to have gone back to the warm up ring right out of a class to allow his time to mentally settle down before I dismount. Don't want him to think he can blow a head gasket and let it be the end of his concentration time. We go back to the warm up, have a few trots and then walk and walk and walk until he chills out. Then I dismount.
        ...don't sh** where you eat...


        • #5
          For unclear reasons, Chief Steward Eric Straus failed to carry out this sanction during the World Reining Final, despite being aware of the abuse.
          For unclear reasons, Cheif Steward Eric Straus should be dismissed as a Steward. He clearly did not do his job here.

          Riders that were seen abusing their horses should have been immediately disqualified.

          Man, I just don't have tolerance for this kind of crap. Especially in FEI or any competition.

          I haven't had a positive experience with reiners in my life...but I know there have to still be some good ones out there that should be rewarded while the bad eggs should be punished.


          • #6
            I'm not familiar with the FEI rules...but the reiners I've ridden always had to drop their bridles just outside the gate after their run so the bit could be checked.
            "Argue for your limitations and you get to keep them."
            -Richard S. Bach


            • #7
              i think epona needs to get a yellow card for playing political games. i have lost any respect i had for them during this who affair.

              they blame the FEI but refuse to hand over footage that would of gotten them the results they wanted.

              seems to me they are looking for $$$$ more than anything else.

              and yes, i do mean that.


              • #8
                Originally posted by Unfforgettable View Post
                I'm not familiar with the FEI rules...but the reiners I've ridden always had to drop their bridles just outside the gate after their run so the bit could be checked.
                The rules IMHO allow for some pretty harsh bits
                References to a bit mean the use of a curb bit that has a solid or broken mouthpiece, has shanks and acts with leverage. All curb bits must be free of mechanical device and should be considered a standard western bit. A standard western bit includes:
                304.1.1. 21.5 cms maximum length shank. (A guide to measurement is published in the FEI Reining Judges Guide). Shanks may be fixed or loose.
                304.1.2. Concerning mouthpieces, bars must be round, oval or egg-shaped, smooth and unwrapped metal of 0.6 cms to 1.9 cms diameter, measured 2.5 cms from the cheek. They may be inlaid, but must be smooth or latex wrapped. Nothing may protrude below the mouthpiece (bar), such as extensions, prongs or wire rings.
                304.1.3. The port must be no higher than 8.9 cms maximum, with rollers and covers acceptable. Broken mouthpieces, half-breeds, and spades are standard.
                304.1.4. Slip or gag bits, donuts or flat polo mouthpieces are not acceptable.

                But it's not how harsh the bits are but how harsh the rider's hands (and mindset) are.
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                • #9
                  personally i dont understand how reining ever got to be a FEI event - must be the $$ they bring in... probably helps support dressage lol!

                  i wish that the FEI would do its job and uphold teh welfare of the horse rules - in ALL disciplines.

                  but since it is all about $$ that will never happen.

                  shame on all of the folks who continue to treat animals as inanimate and unfeeling machines that are just $$$$ machines.


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mbm View Post
                    personally i dont understand how reining ever got to be a FEI event - must be the $$ they bring in...
                    Many, many people were suprised when reining got the nod to be a FEI discipline.
                    Yes, they have alot of money backing them up, but it was only a matter of time before the FEI would have to step in and police them.

                    Until just about a year ago, AQHA didn't have stewards/technical delegates at their shows. Since AQHA is not affiliated with USEF (yet) it wasn't required. Abuse, protests, rule infractions, etc. were all handled "on the honor system" meaning if anyone had a complaint, they were supposed to go the show manager. Then it it was up to the manager to do something, or not. Needless to say, not much was reported.

                    The list of AQHA stewards' responsibilities starts with this one:
                    "Monitor show grounds for inhumane treatment of horses and unsportsmanlike conduct."

                    IMHO, that says alot.