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  • What to wear when jackets are waived?

    I am competing at and Equine Canada "Gold" show this weekend, and given the extreme heat wave that we are experiencing in Ontario, I suspect that jackets will be waived. When jackets are waived, what is the correct shirt to wear. I have both short sleeved and sleeveless show shirts in a technical fabric with a zippered neck. Would these be acceptable? Do I still wear my stock tie and white gloves?
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    I would wear the short sleeved shirt, no stock tie and black or white gloves. Usually no sleeveless shirts for shows down here.

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    • #3
      Definitely no on sleeveless. Short sleeves are fine. No stock tie, but yes on the gloves. Wear the zipper part-way down like an open collar. You can wear a vest (like the Cool Medics ones). Colors need to be solid and conservative

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      • #4
        Equine Canada:

        ARTICLE E 4.1.7 EXTREME OR INCLEMENT WEATHER CONDITIONS
        In the case of inclement weather, competitors may wear a suitable
        protective hat cover and a warm or waterproof overcoat that is transparent
        or conservative in colour.
        In extreme heat or humidity, the steward may permit competitors to ride
        without jackets. When such permission is given, the steward must inform
        the judges In such a case, competitors must wear:
         ASTM/SEI or BSI approved protective headgear bowler, hunt cap,
        top hat.See E4.0 for appropriate headgear rule.
         Solid white, off-white or pale pastel coloured, long or short sleeve
        shirt with a collar
         Sleeveless shirts are not permitted
         Shirt collar may be opened
         Stock ties must be removed unless pinned to the rider’s shirt
         T-shirts are not permitted

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        • #5
          It's important to know - if Canada is like the US, you will get eliminated if you try to wear the stock tie (apparently unless it's pinned to your shirt).

          My trainer chooses to wear her coat even when they're waived, and puts it on right before entering the ring. I had a very nice TD come up while I was watching her warm up and ask if I knew her and if she was wearing her coat to compete, as it was against the rules to wear the stock tie without it. I had known you shouldn't, but that was the first I realized it's actually against the rules.
          Originally posted by Silverbridge
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          • #6
            Also, for goodness sake, PLEASE wear a black belt AND tuck in your shirt.

            There were a bunch of people at the show last weekend with their Coolmax shirts untucked (perhaps due to not having belts), and let's just say there is nothing more distracting while watching a test than wondering if someone's belly is about to make an obviously uninvited appearance.

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            • #7
              And please, WEAR A WHITE BRA!
              2012 goal: learn to ride like a Barn Rat

              A helmet saved my life.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TheHorseProblem View Post
                And please, WEAR A WHITE BRA!
                Better yet, a skin toned bra, as white bras show more than some colors.


                Pale pink even works better than white for me.
                Originally posted by Silverbridge
                If you get anything on your Facebook feed about who is going to the Olympics in 2012 or guessing the outcome of Bush v Gore please start threads about those, too.

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                • #9
                  My mother always said beige bras under white...
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                  • #10
                    My trainer requires jackets, even if they are waived. If you choose to go with the jacket, bras, regardless of color, are optional, IMO.

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                    • #11
                      And I was told by a judge last year that my shirt collar had to be open. I had taken the stock tie off but still had the shirt zipped up. She told me the collar had to be open.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Carol O View Post
                        My trainer requires jackets, even if they are waived.
                        This is mind boggling.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Carol O View Post
                          If you choose to go with the jacket, bras, regardless of color, are optional, IMO.
                          Whaaaat?
                          Bras are never optional, jacket or no jacket.
                          THere's a girl (in her 20's) on my show circuit who doesn't wear one. And takes her jacket off in the warmup. I am sorry but NOBODY around needs or wants to see her bizniss flapping in the wind (especially when her sweat-soaked shirt is pretty much see-through.) And we're talking reasonably substantial boobies too, not little A's or AA's. I really want to take her aside and explain that if she doesn't want them sagging to down around her knees in about 10 years, she really should give them the proper support they deserve.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Carol O View Post
                            My trainer requires jackets, even if they are waived.
                            Originally posted by SillyHorse View Post
                            This is mind boggling.
                            I don't get why it is. Especially if you only put it on just before entering the ring. No judge will intentionally say "oh, she's not wearing a jacket because they were waived; what an unprofessional wimp." However, a judge may have an unintended natural reaction which says "this person looks so polished!" that adds a natural positive tendency toward thoughts on the horse/rider in the ring. Trained as they may be, judges are still human, and the polish helps them mentally accept you as competent.

                            That said, I don't wear my jacket if jackets are waived.
                            Originally posted by Silverbridge
                            If you get anything on your Facebook feed about who is going to the Olympics in 2012 or guessing the outcome of Bush v Gore please start threads about those, too.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by cada931 View Post
                              My mother always said beige bras under white...
                              Your mother was correct. Better yet a beige bra or nude that is close to your skin tone.

                              This also goes for underwear. Let's not even get into the commando option.

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                              • #16
                                I have scribed a lot in the MD heat and I can tell you that an overheated competitor with a beet red face in a jacket doesn't arouse any admiration in the judges. They are worried that the competitor is going have a heat stroke and collapse.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by ArabDiva View Post
                                  Whaaaat?
                                  Bras are never optional, jacket or no jacket.
                                  THere's a girl (in her 20's) on my show circuit who doesn't wear one. And takes her jacket off in the warmup. I am sorry but NOBODY around needs or wants to see her bizniss flapping in the wind (especially when her sweat-soaked shirt is pretty much see-through.) And we're talking reasonably substantial boobies too, not little A's or AA's. I really want to take her aside and explain that if she doesn't want them sagging to down around her knees in about 10 years, she really should give them the proper support they deserve.
                                  Maybe she knows they will never sag:

                                  http://tinyurl.com/3tbswb7

                                  I stand corrected on the bra color. I meant not to forget and wear a black one, as I did once (not at a show, just hacking around the barn, but it was funny.)
                                  2012 goal: learn to ride like a Barn Rat

                                  A helmet saved my life.

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                                  • #18
                                    I got disoriented in the 95 degree, high humidity heat once and lost track of the test during a show. Thank goodness there are clothing options. I just bought a super thin short-sleeve at the last dressage show.

                                    Take advantage of the rule; it was embarrassing to both my trainer and I that I got off-course since the trainer was calling the test! Good news is I still won a blue ribbon but the points off hurt.

                                    With temps near 100 this weekend, I opted out of showing but will go watch a local show this weekend...they are starting tests at 6:45am!

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by netg View Post
                                      I don't get why it is. Especially if you only put it on just before entering the ring. No judge will intentionally say "oh, she's not wearing a jacket because they were waived; what an unprofessional wimp." However, a judge may have an unintended natural reaction which says "this person looks so polished!" that adds a natural positive tendency toward thoughts on the horse/rider in the ring. Trained as they may be, judges are still human, and the polish helps them mentally accept you as competent.

                                      That said, I don't wear my jacket if jackets are waived.
                                      We have had more than one judge on this board state that people are foolish if they don't remove their jackets when the temperature is high enough for them to be waived.
                                      Donald Trump - proven liar, cheat, traitor and sexual predator! Hillary Clinton won in 2016, but we have all lost.

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                                      • #20
                                        EVerytime when I see a rider wearing a jacket when it is waived, I kind of wonder whether that rider has some sort of self esteem issue - you know, needing that extra uniform like an armor to convince themselves that they belong in the show ring... I might be dead wrong but that thought corsses my mind more than once.

                                        Honestly if a judge will score me lower just because I'm not wearing a jacket, that judge's opinion isn't worth a squad to me.

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