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    Stepping away quietly.
    Last edited by Ibex; Jul. 7, 2011, 01:32 AM.
    "Adulthood? You're playing with ponies. That is, like, every 9 year old girl's dream. Adulthood?? You're rocking the HELL out of grade 6, girl."

  • #2
    Wow..that woman has a lot of nerve!
    Barn rat for life


    • #3
      I'd discuss it with the barn owner. That's a very dangerous situation, and you shouldn't have to put up with it on a routine basis from the same horse/rider.
      "Sometimes the fear won't go away... so you just have to do it afraid."

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      • #4
        I would have promptly informed the BO and the trainer about the DANGEROUS situation.

        And I probably would have said something 'not so nice' to that fellow boarder...especially one with such attitude... (I did before and I'm not afraid to speak loud for my safety!)

        I had my fair share of stupids.

        You should ask this boarder what is her schedule and be clear to let her know that it is because YOU don't want to ride with her because she is DANGEROUS. You don't want to expose YOUR horse to such trouble and if an accident had to happen, you'd have no choice but to sue her.

        Your horse don't need to be exposed to such 'accident waiting to happen' situations!


        • #5
          You are way more polite than I would have been. I'd have at least asked her why she didn't have her horse under control.
          Every mighty oak was once a nut that stood its ground.

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          • #6
            BO should insist she gets some lessons or moves out safety first blah blah


            • #7
              That's very unsafe and inappropriate for her to blame you for your horses behavior. Her horse is barging around like a lunatic and she wants you to reprimand your horse?

              Definitely notify B.O. That is a disaster waiting to happen.


              • #8
                I think you were wise to be cautious, and I agree that you should talk with the BO/BM. I had a similar incident, though the pony was usually a saint with her little rider. Something happened, and pony bolted, and the kid completely lost her nerve and started screaming, which made it worse. Panicking pony took refuge *underneath* the OTTB gelding I was leasing! Her withers, saddle, and the kid were wedged as far as they would go, with her little ears and nose poking out the other side. Thankfully, he just craned his head around to peer at her as if to say, "Just what do you think you're doing? I'm not your Mom." Kid stopped screaming and was able to extract the two of them successfully, and we had no further problems. I couldn't have blamed him if he had objected more strenuously to her attempt to use his tummy like a Thellwellian tree branch, but was very grateful that he wasn't rattled.
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                • #9
                  You are being too kind to that woman! it is not your fault her horse is acting up. She told you Not to leave when her horse is acting in that way, putting you and your horse in danger as well. Heck to her, and leave the arena! You care about your horse's wellness.

                  You should also ask her when she rides, so that you will be able to ride at a different time, without her in the arena with you.
                  Also notify the barn owner and barn manager of this dangerous behavior.


                  • #10
                    I would be clear that I expect my reasonable "buffer" space not to be invaded - verbally with the horse's owner; talk to BO/BM/trainer. Then I would teach my horse to tolerate a lunge whip being carried and used while on the ground and mounted. My space would be made very clear and defended next time if challenged.

                    I had experienced an incident of intimidation. An upper level rider came at me on my greenie. She had two whips, spurs, and was intently staring at the pommel of the saddle while barreling on. Since she was not looking nor calling where she was going, I had no way to know how to get out of her way. My horse: 17.2h brick shit house that is fine playing rough, hers ~ 16.1h. I think she was a little surprised when I called and she finally looked up. She scares many other people into not riding in the arena when she rides at all. I really do not think that is fair to other boarders. I did not find such atmosphere enjoyable.

                    Yes, sometimes people loose control of their horses, it does happen. I hope your situation is resolved safely.
                    Horses should be trained in such a way that they not only love their riders, but look forward to the time they are with them.
                    ~ Xenophon, 350 B.C.


                    • #11
                      Stuff happens but as far as dangerous riding goes, we have two offenders at my barn, one who always looks down instead of where she is going, another who is prone to giving high pitched shrieks when her horse acts up. The main problem occurs in winter in the indoor.

                      I suggested half-jokingly half-seriously to our coach that she put them together in a lesson and maybe that would teach them. Unfortunately, the coach was not amused.


                      • #12
                        Wasn't there, so I have no idea what happened and how dangerous it really was, but no one has the right to tell you how to correct your own horse. Only your trainer can do that, or someone you're friends with and they have an understanding with you that they can give you their opinion regarding training.

                        That, to me, is the worst part. The dangerous situation is one you can't always avoid and it just happened the one time. I'd avoid the person like the plague. I'd never ride in the same ring. I'd figure out her normal riding times and just ride another time. It's not worth the risk nor the headache of dealing with someone like that.

                        As for her comment, I would have told her that I didn't appreciate her telling me how to train my horse and that she should be looking more closely at how she is or is NOT training her horse. Physician heal thyself sort of reply.

                        Seriously, that is just not acceptable. You didn't initiate a conversation with her about her horse's problem, how dare she assume she can talk to you about your horse.

                        As for the other comments about riding with morons who don't look up, etc., that really doesn't sound at all similar to your situation. Those people are just morons who don't know how to ride (I don't care what sort of horse they're on-if it does FEI levels or not, they are not RIDERS/HORSEWOMEN if they behave that way).
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                        • #13
                          The whole 'dont move , dont move' thing gets me.. its your physical safety.. move if you damn well please. You were very nice about it but no one should ask you to stand there while their horse is not under control.. as you said you had experience being run over- not fun. I was a driving competition when something like that happened: horse was flipping out and careening sideways towards a group of us on folding chairs.. I got up and moved was was yelled at by the driver not to move.. yeah , right.
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                          • #14
                            Been there, bought the t-shirt. Newbie horse owner that bought 2 young green-broke fresians. Horses were probably nice but smart enough to take advantage of the not very bright owner.

                            In the beginning, people tried to gently offer help, advice, trainer contacts, etc. but it fell on deaf ears. Basically, everyone at the barn just avoided riding in the arena at the same time until he finally went away. Usually, that's all you can do.


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Velvet View Post
                              ... I'd avoid the person like the plague. ...As for her comment, I would have told her that I didn't appreciate her telling me how to train my horse and that she should be looking more closely at how she is or is NOT training her horse.
                              Agree with this -so talk to BO/BM then next you see girl tell her next time this happens, since she can't control her horse, you WILL leave with your horse - her horse is her problem. You are responsible to keep yourself and your horse from getting hurt, keeping her and her horse safe is HER responsibility.
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                              • #16
                                The next time she hollers at you not to move, holler right back at her to get the eff out of the ring until she can control her horse.

                                Carve out some space yourself with some well-placed swings of your dressage whip, if necessary.

                                I mean, I have no problems if someone else's horse bolts at the other end of the arena. This other riders should be able to deal with. If your horse loses his marbles because somebody else spooks 30' away I have very little sympathy.

                                But CLIMBING ON TOP OF YOU?
                                Not ok.
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                                • #17
                                  Just one question: How can a horse bolt in tiny circles? That must be one agile mare.

                                  But I agree with what meup said -- horses should be able to handle another horse being goofy from a distance. But when it gets close up, you do whatever necessary to get the other horse away from you and your horse. And let RiderX deal with consequences.

                                  And telling someone how to discipline his/her horse? Oh, I don't think so. Unless someone is endangering me and my horse, I keep my mouth shut.
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                                  • #18
                                    for me there was a problem on either side..jmo.

                                    as i think rider x with spazzy horse needed to deal with her horse better,knowing her horse is like that and not blame rider y for her horse ,not being under control.but rider y should of moved away e.g another part of ring away from said horse if it bugged her that much of her/horses safety..as i have been on both sides of this problem as well, recently.when my horse has caused problems at times i either left the ring with my disobedient horse and i apologized for it. and if im rider mounted with spazzed horse near by, i moved away to another spot till it was dealt with.i mean if i knew this horse had a problem in first place with handler i would have given space right away when they entered ring.
                                    but even said with all this..do think rider x should of not been so rude about it all or asked for advice or ?.


                                    • Original Poster

                                      Last edited by Ibex; Jul. 7, 2011, 01:40 AM.
                                      "Adulthood? You're playing with ponies. That is, like, every 9 year old girl's dream. Adulthood?? You're rocking the HELL out of grade 6, girl."


                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Ibex View Post
                                        Rider X appears a while later... and informs me that I "need to learn to deal with that stuff better", and I should have "shanked the sh*t out of my horse with the curb rein for reacting to another horse. This stuff happens."
                                        She needs a "come to Jesus" moment, pronto. I hate people like this. It's one thing to be clueless but humble and accept help, but quite another to be a b*** about endangering everyone else's safety.
                                        I saw the angel in the marble and I set him free. - Michaelangelo