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  • What do you think?

    Of this horse: http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_u...?v=dNBfwIn92d8

    5 year old Andulsian/Morgan cross, low level dressage prospect. Just was curious what the COTH folks think.
    Last edited by LoveLongManes; Jun. 14, 2011, 09:17 PM. Reason: Fixed the link

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    link doesn't work

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      Sorry! Fixed it. :-)

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      • #4
        Does not work for me. The link goes to a youtube "desktop" just like the link says

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          #5
          Funny it works for me... Let me try again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNBfwIn92d8

          Hope it works this time!

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          • #6
            Does she have a head bob on her right front leg?

            Paula
            He is total garbage! Quick! Hide him on my trailer (Petstorejunkie).

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            • #7
              I really like her. i think what you're seeing is just a little unsteadiness in the bridle but she's 5 and still learning. She seems to have 3 nice, straight gaits. I think you could really go places with her if you're confident in the saddle. She's a tiny bit looky which wouldn't concern me but if you get nervous I think that looky-ness might turn into a lot of tension. So I would say for a rider without any timidness she would be a good match.

              ETA. Why limit her to a low-level dressage prospect? I bet she could take you a bit up the levels, you'd be surprised. If you have a trainer working with you and you could have the trainer ride her a little bit from time to time and help you advance her I bet you'd be able to do fairly well. I mean you can never say if any horse will hold up as you advance and there are a lot of if's, but I don't see why anything would hold you back based on this video.

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              • #8
                First of all, if the rider in the video is the trainer and person who started the horse, take your checkbook when you go see this mare. WHY? Because the person seems to be a decent rider. A few bobbles in position but overall I see someone who learned from the right people how to ride.
                Nice balance, love the freedom in the back, looks yummy and pliable. I firmly believe what makes a prix st george horse is not so much the flash factor but how they were started. This horse is on the right path for sure.
                that canter with some polish is going to be $$$

                take the trailer.
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                • #9
                  Thanks for the information about the bob. I'm still learning to look at horsies.

                  Paula
                  He is total garbage! Quick! Hide him on my trailer (Petstorejunkie).

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                  • #10
                    What are you looking for in this horse? what goals do you have for her? what is she being advertised as?

                    I like her but she looks very green to me ...

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                    • #11
                      Hmmm. In the video, they keep saying "Good Boy"

                      at goals do you have for her? what is she being advertised as?
                      when you go see this mare
                      I really like her.
                      Does she have a head bob on her right front leg?
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                      • #12

                        this is what happens when your default setting is Mute

                        Ironically I was going to write "he" but glanced at another post & went ohhh it's a girl - So sorry Brio!

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                        • #13
                          Hi,

                          I didn't hear sound. Hmmmm.

                          Anyway, these are my thoughts, which may or may not mean anything depending on your goals as a rider:

                          CONS: This mare does not track up in her trot. She looks stiff in front and I would definitely have front end xrays as part of the pre-purchase. She looks a bit stiff, a bit restricted in the shoulder and a bit upright. maybe she's not - that's just what I'm seeing in this video. Of course, no horse is perfect and it is foolish to expect perfection in a pre-purchase exam. It's hard to tell if this is due to how she's been ridden or her - because in her "long and low" her trot opens up much more. That points to the idea that her rider isn't riding forward or over the mare's back in most of this video. That said, baroque-ish horses are not known for their big trots - but she seems to have a better trot than what is shown here. If you are looking for a lower level prospect, having good basic gaits will help you, and you definitely need a horse who will track up. That said, I'm thinking that her short gait is more due to her rider than her regular way of going. So if you go look at her, it would behoove you to invest in bringing along a good dressage rider (in good, I mean someone who is actually good in the saddle and is good at matching horses to their riders). She does not look comfy at the canter, and I wonder if that's why there's so little canter shown. She's not using her back. It's hard to tell why: inexperience, lack of stregnth, the rider, the horse, etc. Being 5, I'd expect a better canter than this. But if she hasn't spent much time undersaddle in good training, there's soooooooo much that can be influenced and you might be able to get a nice horse for a great price.

                          PROS: She's 5, and if you are a good rider you can certainly enhance her gaits. If you have a good trainer, she looks like a fun partner to learn on. She looks incredibly tolerant, easy and fun to ride. She looks like she's trying to work with the rider and that her focus is on the rider- that's the kind of horse you want. That makes the horse worth their own wieght in gold. She looks like her attitude and temperament translate to the ground - again, that's the kind of horse you want to own. She looks like she has alot more talent than what is shown here. At the very least, she looks like a supremely appropriate partner for a dedicated lower level rider to learn correct dressage on. Maybe she can also go higher. Collection might be very easy for her but I don't see extended gaits being her forte. ANd that's fine.

                          If I were you, I'd find someone knowledgeable I really trusted and I would go see this horse. I would address her stiffness issues, but only in the context of everything else she has to offer. And she seems to have alot to offer you. Please update if you go see her in person!
                          J.
                          Proud member of the Colbert Dressage Nation

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                          • #14
                            OMG CUTE!!!

                            for LL dressage?
                            if the vet check is passed I'd say SOLD! hehe.
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                              #15
                              Thanks for the comments so far! The only reason I wrote lower level prospect is because I do not currently have the ability to ride and train to the higher levels. ;-) It would be nice to find something with that ability, perhaps while working with my trainer it might be an acheivable goal someday. :-)

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                              • #16
                                I like him!

                                From what I can see I suspect this horse has a heck of a lot more to offer in the way of gaits, especially trot. What's on the video is mostly typical sucked-back Morgan prettiness, although it does improve a bit later on. I'm not sure if Andies are the same, but the Morgan types I've worked with start out with two trot options - either the version shown in the video or the yeehah-strap-me-in-a-harness-i'm-a-racing-trotter variety. My preference is to start with something more forward instead of trying to develop it from that disenaged shuffle, though the rider here seems to do a reasonable job with it. Just my thoughts.

                                I'd snap him up myself if I was in the market, and he vetted clean. But then I'm 5'1" and I'm a sucker for these little dyanmos.
                                Proud COTH lurker since 2001.

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                                • #17
                                  Definately worth a closer look.
                                  Groom to trainer: "Where's the glamour? You promised me glamour!"

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                                  • #18
                                    Cute horse, could be freer thru the back, no there is no "head bob" amazes me that EVERY video posted seems to have someone that sees "lameness"! Seems somewhat green so OP needs to detgermine if she is prepared to continue with a green horse, see some "spooking" moments and balance issues in transitions, jsut needs time and training to get thru those issues, but OP needs to determine if they are capable of dealing with that
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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by LoveLongManes View Post
                                      Thanks for the comments so far! The only reason I wrote lower level prospect is because I do not currently have the ability to ride and train to the higher levels. ;-) It would be nice to find something with that ability, perhaps while working with my trainer it might be an acheivable goal someday. :-)
                                      I think she looks very suitable for lower level dressage. What do you consider to be higher level... 2nd? FEI? J-Lu gives a very good assessment of the horse based on the video you provided, and I agree that she likely has more talent than is shown.

                                      I don't think medium or extended gaits will be a strength for this horse, and her canter is unimpressive. Good riding will improve these over time, but they probably preclude her from being competitive at recognized shows beyond 3rd level or so.

                                      That being said, she seems to be a very calm, kind horse, and I'll bet she tries hard for her rider. These attributes are valuable in any horse. I think you could learn a lot with this mare, and she can probably be a good bridge between lower and upper levels... even if you end up doing the upper levels on a different horse. If I were you I would seriously consider her.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Lost_at_C View Post
                                        I like him!

                                        From what I can see I suspect this horse has a heck of a lot more to offer in the way of gaits, especially trot. What's on the video is mostly typical sucked-back Morgan prettiness, although it does improve a bit later on. I'm not sure if Andies are the same, but the Morgan types I've worked with start out with two trot options - either the version shown in the video or the yeehah-strap-me-in-a-harness-i'm-a-racing-trotter variety. My preference is to start with something more forward instead of trying to develop it from that disenaged shuffle, though the rider here seems to do a reasonable job with it. Just my thoughts.

                                        I'd snap him up myself if I was in the market, and he vetted clean. But then I'm 5'1" and I'm a sucker for these little dyanmos.
                                        I'd say pretty much the same thing. Be prepared to work on getting this horse to stretch out to the bit. Morgans are really good at "assuming the position" and looking connected when they really aren't Mine has the "two trots" issue, too, though what seems to be helping with that is getting her into a trot rhythm/speed that works really well, and then alternating sitting/2-point/posting every few strides while maintaining it. (It's also really good for me as a rider!)
                                        You have to have experiences to gain experience.

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