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Oops - Gran Prix dressage in bitless

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  • Oops - Gran Prix dressage in bitless

    Yes, it can be done!
    Lest ye continue to doubt, this is from one of Germany's priemer riders........

  • #2
    What is your point? This horse was trained with a bit, is competing with a bit and is just being ridden without it for fun.

    Most well trained horses can still perform being ridden just with their halter...no need of buying another expensive gadget...(that won't be a quick fix for bad riding.)
    Lots of jumpers use hackamores...what is the big deal? I've seen more impressive performances 'bridleless'.

    And why the need of a new name Spirithorse?


    • #3
      Someone said in the comments she wasn't using the bitless bridle correctly? What does that mean?


      • #4
        Originally posted by Shiaway View Post
        Someone said in the comments she wasn't using the bitless bridle correctly? What does that mean?
        It probably means the OP (aka. Spirithorse) believes he is the one of the few who rides dressage correctly, when bitless, using his bitless spirit bridle with martingale attachment.

        This article in eurodressage was posted by another poster in this forum and it is a great article and lovely dressage, both with bit and bitless. I do like the bitless bridle shown in the article with the padded noseband. The horse is obviously very well trained using positive methods and time. Could probably be ridden just as well in a boring ol' halter.


        • #5
          Very neat video. Thanks for sharing.
          Flip a coin. It's not what side lands that matters, but what side you were hoping for when the coin was still in the air.

          You call it boxed wine. I call it carboardeaux.


          • Original Poster

            The posting is to share a demonstration, not to cause a stink.

            The bridle she is using is designed to apply more nose pressure and if you watch the video in slowmotion you can see the rein rings are high on the side of the head................these are merely observations.

            And for 4xHoof:
            When riders demonstrate a bitless bridle using the cross under the rein operating technology, YES I am the expert because I invented it and know how it should work.

            And if you viewed the comments under the video I declared it was a beautiful demonstration.............


            • #7
              I thought alters used for trolling were verboten here, no?


              • #8
                Allen, I think you should send Uta a vid of your "proper" demonstration of bitless riding. I believe this is her contact: http://www.gutrothenkircherhof.de/install/index.php
                "Rock n' roll's not through, yeah, I'm sewing wings on this thing." --Destroyer


                • Original Poster

                  Originally posted by dressurpferd01 View Post
                  I thought alters used for trolling were verboten here, no?
                  No alter......did not want to use the original email address for this so did a new one......................oops


                  • #10
                    that was a fun video! Looks like a happy horse


                    • #11
                      Nice, elastic, relaxed movement. Very pretty.


                      • #12
                        But is this bitless bridle a crossunder, or a different design, Spirithorse? If it's a design that differs from yours, how would you know how it "should" be used?

                        I think the woman rides beautifully. It's the best demonstration of bitless dressage I've seen.


                        • #13
                          what a lovely horse. and i wish i could ride HALF as well as Uta!!


                          • #14
                            "as the inventor of the original bitless bridle it would be nice if she would use it correctly. Also there is a modification to this bridle." quote from youtube.

                            So are you saying, spirithorse, that Graf is using a modified version of your bitless bridle?


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dragonharte8 View Post
                              Yes, it can be done!
                              Lest ye continue to doubt, this is from one of Germany's priemer riders........

                              Who said it absolutely can't be done?

                              Why the alter?
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                              • #16
                                Spirithorse.You invented the bitless bridle? I know you are older than me but had no idea it was by 5000 odd yrs?Or were you a Synian horseman by any chance in around 1400BC which would make you somewhat younger? What a claim to fame.Did Dunlop invent the wheel?


                                • Original Poster

                                  OK folks.
                                  I am not marketing here....I am presenting knowledge I have acquired from the horses using bitless and am trying to use this knowledge to improve the bitted rider.
                                  I invented the cross under the jaw rein operating technology. Prior there was none in existance in the world.
                                  All the copy cat bridles are ripe offs of my design.....Cook received a fraudulent patent for my original 1988 design.
                                  Yes, she is using a cross under the jaw rein operating technology, however, with a redesigned chin strap that appears to allow the rein pressure to exert more noseband pressure.

                                  Now, as to how to use this technology.....all of the images on Youtube, etc., show riders using the bridle as if it was a bitted bridle. This design mandates absolute lightness of rein contact with the fingers.........and when used correctly the horse will seek poll high head in front of the vertical, no matter at what level it is schooling.


                                  • #18
                                    Oh ok.Sorry ,from your comment I thought you mean't you invented the bitless bridle fullstop.Are there any photo's or video we can see that show how your bridle should be used?


                                    • #19
                                      For those who wonder. Uta rides in a bitless bridle which can order here

                                      Her next challenge is to do it in a halter bridle. There was no deliberate choice to ride in a bitless bridle with extra nose pressure. This was just the one for sale in a local shop!

                                      Alterby: I don't agree with your statement 'Most well trained horses can still perform being ridden just with their halter...no need of buying another expensive gadget".

                                      I would LOVE to see the FEI top 10 ranked riders trying to do the Grand Prix movements with their horse in a bitless bridle, at home and at a seminar/clinic.. Do you think Mistral, Parzival, Sisther de Jeu, Scandic, H, Warum Nicht, will go in a bitless bridle? Probably a few but definitely not all on this list
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by dragonharte8 View Post
                                        .........and when used correctly the horse will seek poll high head in front of the vertical, no matter at what level it is schooling.
                                        And would you say that the poll high white horse in this video at 00:09 is a good example of a horse seeking the bit? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAu08Zg9k0Y