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  • #61
    I came across a bunch of used Roosli Luzernes in a recent saddle-surf-fest - I think at Pelham.

    Also, check out L'Apogee. They have an extreme shoulder-relief feature, non-gusseted panels that still manage to have decent weight-bearing, and the seat is on the shallower side. Flap length & block placement is customize-able. Horses seems to like them. The rep in Virginia is responsive and knowledgeable. I can find her contact # if anyone needs it.
    "You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed." - The Little Prince

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    • #62
      Thanks Retrofit

      I just looked at Pelham, and they have one in a M! But... Mr. Orange Princess needs a M/W in Roosli.

      I like the L'Apogee suggestion. Will have to look for used though, new is sadly out of my budget....
      Unrepentant carb eater

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      • #63
        I'm bumping this to see if you all who decided on "your saddles" ended up having long term success with them...;-)

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          #64
          The Trilogy is still working on my gelding, and I am still surprised as it wasn't made for a particularly short backed horse.

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          • #65
            I just had my Kieffer Luisitano adjusted and flat shorted, and it is even better! I really fires my mare, very deep and secure, yet I can move in it so I'm happy! Free adjustments for 2 years so thrilled. I almost forgot that I really wanted a Wolfgang Constanze.

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            • #66
              saddle for SHORT back

              No-one has mentioned SOMMER saddles- infinitely adjustable (like a passier or schleese), made in Germany, available with a relief panel for shoulder freedom and with short panels for 'compact' horses. I have a Sommer Diplomat for my 15hh Arab/Hano mare. We had a Passier GG but even that was too long and pressed on her loins. I'm very pleased with this one, and more important the horse is comfortable.

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              • #67
                Well my saddle saga didn't go quite as planned.

                I took a stubben genesis D http://www.doversaddlery.com/st%C3%B...FZKk4AodvFsANQon trial - and it was perfect. (not the Cathrine Haddad one) Very upswept cantle, half panels and not too bulky for me, the knee roll was pretty unobtrusive. The horse's stride opened up unbelievably, his back and shoulder was so free.

                Unfortunately, towards the of the trial, he got hurt really bad and ended up having to be put down about a month later.

                My new horse just turned 4, and is about a year away from needing a dressage saddle (and he's rapidly growing lol) but he has a more normal length back. This dude will still need an upswept panel, but I don't foresee to many difficulties as his back shape is fairly standard.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by 4wdNstraight View Post
                  I just had my Kieffer Luisitano adjusted and flat shorted, and it is even better! I really fires my mare, very deep and secure, yet I can move in it so I'm happy! Free adjustments for 2 years so thrilled. I almost forgot that I really wanted a Wolfgang Constanze.
                  What does "flat shorted" mean? Is this a new saddle? The rep told you free adjustments for 2 years?!?! I've never heard of that before, wow!!!

                  Originally posted by Judysmom View Post
                  Well my saddle saga didn't go quite as planned.

                  I took a stubben genesis D http://www.doversaddlery.com/st%C3%B...FZKk4AodvFsANQon trial - and it was perfect. (not the Cathrine Haddad one) Very upswept cantle, half panels and not too bulky for me, the knee roll was pretty unobtrusive. The horse's stride opened up unbelievably, his back and shoulder was so free.

                  Unfortunately, towards the of the trial, he got hurt really bad and ended up having to be put down about a month later.

                  My new horse just turned 4, and is about a year away from needing a dressage saddle (and he's rapidly growing lol) but he has a more normal length back. This dude will still need an upswept panel, but I don't foresee to many difficulties as his back shape is fairly standard.
                  I'm so sorry to hear about your horse, that's awful! Thanks for the review on the Stubben....

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by demidq View Post
                    No-one has mentioned SOMMER saddles- infinitely adjustable (like a passier or schleese), made in Germany, available with a relief panel for shoulder freedom and with short panels for 'compact' horses. I have a Sommer Diplomat for my 15hh Arab/Hano mare. We had a Passier GG but even that was too long and pressed on her loins. I'm very pleased with this one, and more important the horse is comfortable.
                    Are there reps for these saddles? Honestly, I've never seen one or someone with one...I bought one of their bridles years ago and it's fantastic....

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                    • #70
                      My horse has all kinds of saddle fit issues. He has a very short wide & very curvy back. High & long wither and a forward girth groove. To make matters worse, I need an 18 inch saddle. I have been riding in a Barefoot London for over a year and absolutely HATE it. Well, I finally found the solution!!!
                      Heather Moffet's new Flexee Saddle just came out. I have been waiting for this saddle for a year and a half, hoping that it would work for us. I have had it for a week now and it is WONDERFUL. It fits my horse, it doesn't slip into the dip of his back, It puts me in perfect position and it is extremely comfortable and stable. It has a leather tree and fits like a treeless, but to the rider feels more like a treed saddle. Oh- and all the thousands of $$$$ I have spent on saddles and saddle fitting- this saddle is only about $700. It's synthetic, no more oiling leather!

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                      • #71
                        Oooh I'm going to have to look into that. You and I have the same damned horse
                        http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6029/5...5c6a22ebea.jpg

                        and the same saddle needs. I have an EZ fit endurance that fits like a charm, but no dressage saddle.

                        Thank you so much!

                        ETA: Do you have a US contact person for this saddle?

                        Paula
                        Last edited by paulaedwina; May. 28, 2013, 02:13 PM.
                        He is total garbage! Quick! Hide him on my trailer (Petstorejunkie).

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                        • #72
                          Sorry I meant flaps shortened!

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                          • #73
                            There are several options for the short back. The Balance saddle works very well for a wide short back. Saddles that have a more open seat allow a rider to work with a smaller seat and thus a smaller profile on the horse's back. Upswept panels are also an option but can be hard to find unless ordered specifically.
                            Many saddle companies are also willing to shorten a panel, for instance, Black Country and Schleese can do a 17.5 seat with a 17" panel.
                            Jay McGarry
                            sms trained saddle fitter
                            www.trumbullmtn.com
                            800-442-9672

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