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  • how hard is training level?

    I am hopefully getting a gelding soon who can only do flat work due to an old injury but he is trained to 1st level. I myself can only ride training level but I am wondering just how hard the test is? i have never shown in dressage and actually sorta hate it but now that I've taken a break from it (that's where I started then switched to jumping) and my gelding is good at it, I am starting to have a re-newed interest in it. my hope is to one day show him at a dressage show at training level.

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    It's about as hard as getting yourself a trainer, or googling for the 2011 tests.

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    • #3
      If you have a good trainer and a horse with 3 good gaits and solid basic training, training level should be a very achievable goal. For training level, you need to not only be able to sit on a horse doing walk/trot/canter, but have an independent enough seat to influence the horse while doing each gait. Training level asks for big easy circles and diagonals, so steering through the test patterns is not real hard, but the details are what make or break a test. For example, getting a transitions right at the specified letter, and riding accurate circles with correct bend... sounds easy but can be tough until you get the hang of it! Dressage is a lot of fun once you understand the basics and start to figure out what you are trying to do. With a horse that already has dressage training, you are off to a great start! Get some lessons, and go have fun at some shows!
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      • #4
        Well that was sorta mean...

        That's a hard question to answer - if you've never done it and are a novice rider or maybe have a novice horse, you may consider it extremely hard! And that's okay!
        But if you look at the test (which the above poster mentioned), you will see it includes some large circles and transitions between different gaits. You need to be correct in where you do these things (ie trot at A), but not as much as a higher level - training level is more forgiving.

        Hope that helps a little bit!

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        • #5
          Yup, look up the 2011 Training Level tests and youtube Training Level tests for a good idea of what it takes and what it looks like
          ....horses should be trained in such a way that they not only love their riders, but look forward to the time they are with them.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by GimmeQs View Post
            Well that was sorta mean...

            That's a hard question to answer - if you've never done it and are a novice rider or maybe have a novice horse, you may consider it extremely hard! And that's okay!
            But if you look at the test (which the above poster mentioned), you will see it includes some large circles and transitions between different gaits. You need to be correct in where you do these things (ie trot at A), but not as much as a higher level - training level is more forgiving.

            Hope that helps a little bit!
            Gallant wasn't mean. Gallant just stated facts. Seriously, when we added W/T tests we dumbed down our sport to a level that even the former AHSA (now USEF) couldn't stomach. That's why they didn't recognize them, only USDF does.

            The day that Training Level was added, people thought they'd made things as absolutely simple as possible for both horse and rider, as an introduction to dressage. It really is simple, if you're doing an dressage basics at home. It's not rocket science and anyone should FEEL like they can go in the ring and at least try it out because it is so basic.

            Not being mean. Just saying that these levels are there for ANYONE with basic knowledge and the ability to steer and ask their horse for walk, trot and canter in both directions should feel completely at ease doing these tests.
            "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"

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            • #7
              Training Level (3 tests)--As stated by the AHSA: "The purpose of the Training Level Dressage Tests is to confirm that the horse's muscles are supple and loose, and that it moves freely forward in a clear and steady rhythm, accepting contact with the bit."

              If you or your horse are nervous away from home start with intro level
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              • #8
                Well, it's not THAT easy if you want to do fairly well! Basically for Training level, you will need a horse that is solid W-T-C and is accepting of the bit. Doesn't have to be on the bit, but accepts the contact, although I really do think judges want to see the horse more on the bit than you would think they should be for this level.

                You will need to be able to do 20 meter circles accurately on each end (at A and C) and at the center (at E and B), the horse cannot fall out of the circles or fall in (have a consistent bend and a good ROUND circle), have good transitions between gaits, ride into your corners fairly well, and do straight lines when changing the rein. Also you'll need to be able to do a good square halt with your horse being immobile for at least 3 seconds. And your horse must do a nice free walk on a long rein with their back swinging, taking long even strides (marching) with a clear 4-beat rhythym, and stretching their necks down and out.

                This stuff is not as easy at it seems, but if you have a good, solidly trained horse it should be.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Velvet View Post
                  Gallant wasn't mean. Gallant just stated facts.
                  I think GimmeQs was referring to SirGali's comment:

                  Originally posted by SirGali View Post
                  It's about as hard as getting yourself a trainer, or googling for the 2011 tests.

                  which I think was kinda mean, and not GallantGesture's.

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                  • #10
                    Doing training level CORRECTLY is hard, you know with CORRECT contact, round cirlces, proper transitions, etc.

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                    • #11
                      It depends on the basics you have as a rider, is what I keep seeing.

                      If you have been riding jumpers with someone who makes you adjust and keep your balance, bend properly through corners, getting the horse to shift its balance back, shorten and lengthen strides, etc - training level should be very easy for you.

                      If you have been riding jumpers with someone who is more of the "point and shoot" training style, letting the horse counterbend on corners, not insisting on shifting weight back... training level will feel like a completely different type of riding to you, and will take a long time for you to get the feel of what you need.


                      How a horse moves can greatly affect how you do, too. My first training level tests my horse "took off with me" during canters in each (about three strides of all out and he came back to me), did some rear/leap aerial maneuvers... and we scored over 60% in both because we got nothing less than a 7 on all movements he wasn't misbehaving in. This was with a judge who was giving more scores in the 40s than the 60s - but he's a nice mover, and it makes up for a lot, including 3s and 4s in some movements.

                      Each mistake counts for that movement specifically, not the overall test (except cumulative scores). So if you've been well taught to shrug off a mistake, correct it, and move on, you'll do much better than if you beat yourself up over a movement now in the past, too.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by cuatx55 View Post
                        Doing training level CORRECTLY is hard, you know with CORRECT contact, round cirlces, proper transitions, etc.


                        My answer to the OP's question: Harder than it looks.
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                        • #13
                          Ah. It hadn't quoted anyone so I thought it was for Gallant.
                          "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"

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                          • #14
                            The hardest part is memorizing the tests..
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SirGali View Post
                              It's about as hard as getting yourself a trainer, or googling for the 2011 tests.
                              I pretty much agree with this. It isn't mean. Training level is only as hard as the rider wants to make it. It is WTC on 20 meter circles and diagonals. The trot is rising. It is suppose to be as their title says "Training" level.

                              Go out there and do the tests. Yes, you will make mistakes... so what, learn from them and you will get better the more you ride the tests.

                              I think to many people limit themselves by being afraid of not being PERFECT when they ride a test in a show. Worry about being perfect for riding your test when you get higher up in the levels. Training level is for Training... use it for that. Go get the experience in the show ring for you and your horse. And have FUN while you are doing it.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by MLD View Post
                                I pretty much agree with this. It isn't mean. Training level is only as hard as the rider wants to make it. It is WTC on 20 meter circles and diagonals. The trot is rising. It is suppose to be as their title says "Training" level.

                                Go out there and do the tests. Yes, you will make mistakes... so what, learn from them and you will get better the more you ride the tests.

                                I think to many people limit themselves by being afraid of not being PERFECT when they ride a test in a show. Worry about being perfect for riding your test when you get higher up in the levels. Training level is for Training... use it for that. Go get the experience in the show ring for you and your horse. And have FUN while you are doing it.
                                Seconded!
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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by MLD View Post
                                  Go get the experience in the show ring for you and your horse. And have FUN while you are doing it.
                                  FUN? At a DRESSAGE SHOW?!?!??!??!!? Surely you jest.

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                                  • #18
                                    I found Training Level the hardest. There's alot to learn being the foundation of Dressage riding. After that, at least I had my basics and it was easier to build on that. Not easy, just easier.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by princessfluffybritches View Post
                                      I found Training Level the hardest.
                                      That was only because you wear fluffy breeches.
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by MLD View Post
                                        Training level is for Training... use it for that.
                                        I couldn't disagree more. Training should be done at home, not during a test at a show. Training level tests at a dressage show are no different from tests of any other level. You are being judged on what you and your horse can do, not what you are working on. Trotting down the center line unprepared to meet the challenges of the test is a waste of your money.
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