• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

dressage naturally

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • dressage naturally

    has anyone used this method?

  • #2
    naturally, I use dressage. Why else would I be on this forum?
    "The Threat of Internet Ignorance: ... we are witnessing the rise of an age of equestrian disinformation, one where a trusting public can graze on nonsense packaged to look like fact."-LRG-AF

    Comment


    • #3
      Originally posted by CatOnLap View Post
      naturally, I use dressage. Why else would I be on this forum?
      Like button here!

      But what is natural to ride anyway?
      Last edited by alibi_18; Jan. 22, 2011, 01:50 PM. Reason: Oh no, this 'dressage' is proning SIMoN the dressage noodle!!!
      ~ Enjoying some guac and boxed wine at the Blue Saddle inn. ~

      Originally posted by LauraKY
      I'm sorry, but this has "eau de hoarder" smell all over it.
      HORSING mobile training app

      Comment


      • #4
        Isn't that from Karen Rolph? If so, I can vouch for her. She was a wonderful rider who first learned under Ann Gribbons to 4th+ level way back in the 80's, and came away with her own softness in style. I really liked her as a judge. Broadened her methods from then on. I personally would trust her teaching now. Not sure if she still trains competetive dressage, I think now she's more of a teacher of creating a partnership thru healthy methods. She's one of the people who I have always admired since watching her ride and be judged at shows by her in the 80's, and seeing what she's done presently.

        Comment


        • #5
          thru healthy methods
          everyone elses are unhealthy?
          Humans don’t mind duress, in fact they thrive on it. What they mind is not feeling necessary. –Sebastian Junger

          Comment


          • #6
            Isn't Karin the one who came up with the pool noodle schoolmaster?

            She's associated with the P's, which, while that is not in itself a disqualifier, raises a few red flags for me. I did watch one of her clinics here several years ago, and while I would not try some of the things she did with participants, it was interesting work to watch.

            Comment


            • #7
              Bea, what is a '' pool noodle '' ? Anyway, I know Karen and think she has a lot to offer for those that want to combine some of the best NH ideas with dressage. That being said, I don't know why she is still an associate Parelli instrutor. She doesn't need them.
              I'm regularly around very good dressage riders and still I'm amazed at what so many lack as far as basic horsemanship skills. By that I mean horses walking all over them when on the ground and pulling back on the reins to stop a naughty or runaway horse. Too, pulling on the halters and resorting to chains over the horses noses to get them to lead up. Just a few examples.Karen does no have any of the above issues and she can teach others how not to either. I want a horse super light and not braced from the ground too. I demand respect in a fair way. Keeps me and the pony both outta trouble Karen offers this and much much more.
              Before you flame me, the very good dressage riders I'm around are way better riders than i am admitedly. That being said, i would not trade my abilities to read a horse or work one from the ground for the chains and leather halters and dragging the horse around. Or trying to anyway
              I do wish DQ's would take the time to check out folks like Karen or Buck Brannaman. They really do have a lot to offer
              and have some great and useful info that will translate into better dressage. MHO, of course

              Comment


              • #8
                http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/sh...ht=pool+noodle

                This is the reference to the pool noodle, AZ.

                Comment


                • #9
                  thanks so much,she sounds like the next step in natural horsemanship for the dressage person...and that would be me.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Don't forget the pool noodle!

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bogey2 View Post
                      everyone elses are unhealthy?
                      Got me there!!!

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Speaking of the Pool Noodle...

                        http://www.woodsdressage.com/uploads...ubstitutes.pdf

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by betonbill View Post
                          laughing on the floor, rolling

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            I guess she learned her marketing skills from PP. Carrot sticks, pool noodles, what's next?
                            Hoppe, Hoppe, Reiter...
                            Wenn er faellt dann schreit er...

                            Originally posted by mbm
                            forward is like love - you can never have enough

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Gallop away from """""METHODS""""
                              ... _. ._ .._. .._

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                do you mean from this method or all methods

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by betonbill View Post
                                  Made my day! Thanks.
                                  "And I will be an embarrassment to all
                                  Who have not found the peace in being free
                                  to have a horse as a best friend."

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    "Methods" need to be judged individually. Some methods are fine for teaching certain skills or dealing with bad habits, behavior issues, etc. Not every method is right for every horse and every rider in every situation.

                                    I think the problem arises when someone begins to believe the hype that this or that "method" will cure all ills. Many people new to horse ownership look to marketeers like the Parellis to give them easy answers to their questions. They don't want to learn the hard way -- they want Step A, Step B, Step C and Voila! Instant success! These steps may work, but it helps to know WHY they worked, too. It helps to know what to do the next time you repeat those steps but obtain a different result. Horses are not automobiles. Some people forget that.

                                    I'm especially wary when the method requires (or even suggests) that one must buy this special stick or halter or lead line. Then it becomes marketing, not training.

                                    Good horsemen pick and choose from many schools of thought, many methodologies, are willing to experiment -- thinking outside the box when necessary. It takes practice, observation, and time. Lots of time.

                                    Attend Karin's clinics. Learn from her, but don't close your mind to the opportunities to listen and learn from other trainers, too. The more you expose yourself to ideas, the more you have in your training toolbox.

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      oh dear. the pool noodle schoolmaster just made my brain explode.
                                      That can't be natural.
                                      "The Threat of Internet Ignorance: ... we are witnessing the rise of an age of equestrian disinformation, one where a trusting public can graze on nonsense packaged to look like fact."-LRG-AF

                                      Comment


                                      • #20
                                        Yeppers, CatOnLap. It has to be a joke!

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X