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  • dressage naturally

    has anyone used this method?

  • #2
    naturally, I use dressage. Why else would I be on this forum?
    "The Threat of Internet Ignorance: ... we are witnessing the rise of an age of equestrian disinformation, one where a trusting public can graze on nonsense packaged to look like fact."-LRG-AF


    • #3
      Originally posted by CatOnLap View Post
      naturally, I use dressage. Why else would I be on this forum?
      Like button here!

      But what is natural to ride anyway?
      Last edited by alibi_18; Jan. 22, 2011, 02:50 PM. Reason: Oh no, this 'dressage' is proning SIMoN the dressage noodle!!!
      ~ Enjoying some guac and boxed wine at the Blue Saddle inn. ~

      Originally posted by LauraKY
      I'm sorry, but this has "eau de hoarder" smell all over it.
      HORSING mobile training app


      • #4
        Isn't that from Karen Rolph? If so, I can vouch for her. She was a wonderful rider who first learned under Ann Gribbons to 4th+ level way back in the 80's, and came away with her own softness in style. I really liked her as a judge. Broadened her methods from then on. I personally would trust her teaching now. Not sure if she still trains competetive dressage, I think now she's more of a teacher of creating a partnership thru healthy methods. She's one of the people who I have always admired since watching her ride and be judged at shows by her in the 80's, and seeing what she's done presently.


        • #5
          thru healthy methods
          everyone elses are unhealthy?
          Humans don’t mind duress, in fact they thrive on it. What they mind is not feeling necessary. –Sebastian Junger


          • #6
            Isn't Karin the one who came up with the pool noodle schoolmaster?

            She's associated with the P's, which, while that is not in itself a disqualifier, raises a few red flags for me. I did watch one of her clinics here several years ago, and while I would not try some of the things she did with participants, it was interesting work to watch.


            • #7
              Bea, what is a '' pool noodle '' ? Anyway, I know Karen and think she has a lot to offer for those that want to combine some of the best NH ideas with dressage. That being said, I don't know why she is still an associate Parelli instrutor. She doesn't need them.
              I'm regularly around very good dressage riders and still I'm amazed at what so many lack as far as basic horsemanship skills. By that I mean horses walking all over them when on the ground and pulling back on the reins to stop a naughty or runaway horse. Too, pulling on the halters and resorting to chains over the horses noses to get them to lead up. Just a few examples.Karen does no have any of the above issues and she can teach others how not to either. I want a horse super light and not braced from the ground too. I demand respect in a fair way. Keeps me and the pony both outta trouble Karen offers this and much much more.
              Before you flame me, the very good dressage riders I'm around are way better riders than i am admitedly. That being said, i would not trade my abilities to read a horse or work one from the ground for the chains and leather halters and dragging the horse around. Or trying to anyway
              I do wish DQ's would take the time to check out folks like Karen or Buck Brannaman. They really do have a lot to offer
              and have some great and useful info that will translate into better dressage. MHO, of course


              • #8

                This is the reference to the pool noodle, AZ.


                • #9
                  thanks so much,she sounds like the next step in natural horsemanship for the dressage person...and that would be me.


                  • #10
                    Don't forget the pool noodle!


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bogey2 View Post
                      everyone elses are unhealthy?
                      Got me there!!!


                      • #12
                        Speaking of the Pool Noodle...



                        • #13
                          Originally posted by betonbill View Post
                          laughing on the floor, rolling


                          • #14
                            I guess she learned her marketing skills from PP. Carrot sticks, pool noodles, what's next?
                            Hoppe, Hoppe, Reiter...
                            Wenn er faellt dann schreit er...

                            Originally posted by mbm
                            forward is like love - you can never have enough


                            • #15
                              Gallop away from """""METHODS""""
                              ... _. ._ .._. .._


                              • #16
                                do you mean from this method or all methods


                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by betonbill View Post
                                  Made my day! Thanks.
                                  "And I will be an embarrassment to all
                                  Who have not found the peace in being free
                                  to have a horse as a best friend."


                                  • #18
                                    "Methods" need to be judged individually. Some methods are fine for teaching certain skills or dealing with bad habits, behavior issues, etc. Not every method is right for every horse and every rider in every situation.

                                    I think the problem arises when someone begins to believe the hype that this or that "method" will cure all ills. Many people new to horse ownership look to marketeers like the Parellis to give them easy answers to their questions. They don't want to learn the hard way -- they want Step A, Step B, Step C and Voila! Instant success! These steps may work, but it helps to know WHY they worked, too. It helps to know what to do the next time you repeat those steps but obtain a different result. Horses are not automobiles. Some people forget that.

                                    I'm especially wary when the method requires (or even suggests) that one must buy this special stick or halter or lead line. Then it becomes marketing, not training.

                                    Good horsemen pick and choose from many schools of thought, many methodologies, are willing to experiment -- thinking outside the box when necessary. It takes practice, observation, and time. Lots of time.

                                    Attend Karin's clinics. Learn from her, but don't close your mind to the opportunities to listen and learn from other trainers, too. The more you expose yourself to ideas, the more you have in your training toolbox.


                                    • #19
                                      oh dear. the pool noodle schoolmaster just made my brain explode.
                                      That can't be natural.
                                      "The Threat of Internet Ignorance: ... we are witnessing the rise of an age of equestrian disinformation, one where a trusting public can graze on nonsense packaged to look like fact."-LRG-AF


                                      • #20
                                        Yeppers, CatOnLap. It has to be a joke!