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  • Schleese vs Custom Saddlery vs Trilogy

    I need some opinions please. Am looking at one of the above saddles, would like a fitter to come to me as I have a AQHA/Oldenburg Mare and I am having problems with my Toulouse saddle, I love it but have had it tweaked a couple times and no matter what it throws my legs more forward than what is correct. Not so certain my mare likes the way it fits her either so have decided to spend the time and $$ on a new one but wanted to hear others opinons?

    I know can be like trying on bathing suits on jeans... painful at times and opinions vary but will be helpful to hear!

    Any input on Luane Reaume the fitter for Schleese or Sally Dietrich with Trilogy? Do not know who is in Michigan with Custom Saddlery.

    Thanks for your help?

  • #2
    I tried all of the above (and at least five others) and got a Custom. I love it, and I love my fitter-which is just as important. Honestly, they are all different- and I wouldn't recommend making that sort of investment without having a few different people out and trying what they have to offer.

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    • #3
      Custom Saddlery changed fitters last year with the current one based in Ohio. Worked with her twice and she seems good. Been a fitter for a long time. What I like about CS saddlers is that the company does continuing education for them. I also like that CS saddles come in a wide variety of makes: diff twists, seat depths, blocks. So one can first fit the horse then fit the rider (that's my preference).

      Have sat in all the Trilogy saddles and the twists felt very wide. Know the saddler in mi. Hate her dog.

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      • #4
        Currently have a CS now on trial and looooove it. I'm in Ohio and the fitter was excellent I want to ride in it a couple more times but I think I'll be buying it!
        No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill
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        • #5
          I'm in So Cal. Wasted 9 months with Custom. They were so bad at fitting my horse that I gave up after 3 tries. The Trilogoy fitter was able to do a perfect fit the first time out. I liked the service so much that I bought another Trilogy for my new horse. I'm at a barn with over 100 horses, many Trilogy saddles, not a single Custom saddle that I know of.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by atlatl View Post
            I'm in So Cal. Wasted 9 months with Custom. They were so bad at fitting my horse that I gave up after 3 tries. The Trilogoy fitter was able to do a perfect fit the first time out. I liked the service so much that I bought another Trilogy for my new horse. I'm at a barn with over 100 horses, many Trilogy saddles, not a single Custom saddle that I know of.
            This was my experience with Custom also. Just a **HUGE** waste of time and energy. I also went through 3 tries, repeated tracings, photos, angry letters, phone calls, the whole crappin' 9 yards. I cannot for the life of me figure out how this company has any following at all.

            I don't have any experience with Trilogy, so I cannot speak for them. I have dealt with Schleese, and I would certainly see what they had to say regarding your horse. They make a very nice saddle, although I would say somewhat overpriced. If it works for you, though, it is worth it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Elegante E View Post
              Have sat in all the Trilogy saddles and the twists felt very wide.
              Wow, that's weird. The Trilogy Verago pretty much has the narrowest twist I could find on a saddle.

              All three brands the OP is looking at are pretty different. I found the newer Custom Saddlery saddles to be poorly made for the price, and few I know of have had good luck recently. I found the Trilogy Saddles to be much better constructed on average, and contrary to the above poster, I ended up buying the Trilogy on the recommendation of Steffen Peters assistant specifically because I needed a very narrow twist.

              Best thing to do is try as many different makes and models as you can.
              On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog

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              • #8
                I know people who have had great success AND great failure with all three saddle companies. The problem with saddles - there is no "one size fits all" - every horse and rider is different. And saddle fitter skills differ significantly. Talk to people in your area that have used the fitters you would be using, then try the different saddles before making a choice.

                I personally ride in a Custom Advantage - but did go through some trials and tribulations with the original fitter in my area. Subsequent fitter is SO MUCH BETTER! Trilogy is not even allowed in one barn I know, such bad experiences. Yet a client (one who bought one of my horses) swears by her Trilogy - both horse and rider are happy.

                Your best bet is to find out about your specific region's fitter, and then look for the saddle that feels most comfortable. Good luck with the saddle search! Those are all reputable, quality saddles with many happy customers and a few unhappy - that is the way of saddle fitting!
                Last edited by MysticOakRanch; Jan. 10, 2011, 01:33 PM.

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                • #9
                  You didn't ask about this, but you may also want to try a Ryder saddle. Ryder makes the Trilogy saddles as well as the Legacy saddles for Dressage Extensions.

                  I just bought a new Ryder Zara, and it's fabulous. One very nice feature is the adjustable stirrup bars. It has 3 positions, so it's easier to get your legs directly under you.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MysticOakRanch View Post
                    Trilogy is not even allowed in one barn I know, such bad experiences. Yet a client (one who bought one of my horses) swears by her Trilogy - both horse and rider are happy.
                    Since I am in the same area as you, I would have to say that the Trilogy Saddles are excellent (although don't fit everyone, as they are very deep, flat, with a very straight flap). I would imagine the problem at you barn is more with the personality of the saddle fitter than with the saddles themselves, and think that should be mentioned. I know several people that simply cannot deal with her personality.

                    It is unfortunate that we have some pretty difficult personalities to deal with here in NorCal. I will never even consider an Albion Saddle ever again, and it's not because I hate the saddles!
                    On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by stryder View Post
                      You didn't ask about this, but you may also want to try a Ryder saddle. Ryder makes the Trilogy saddles
                      This is not 100% true. They make the Amadeo saddle, which is the Trilogy with a VERY WIDE twist.

                      The Verago is made by another saddler
                      http://www.cardanelsaddles.co.uk/s-verago-dressage.htm
                      On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Perfect Pony View Post
                        This is not 100% true. They make the Amadeo saddle, which is the Trilogy with a VERY WIDE twist.

                        The Verago is made by another saddler
                        http://www.cardanelsaddles.co.uk/s-verago-dressage.htm
                        Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate your correction.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Perfect Pony View Post
                          Since I am in the same area as you, I would have to say that the Trilogy Saddles are excellent (although don't fit everyone, as they are very deep, flat, with a very straight flap). I would imagine the problem at you barn is more with the personality of the saddle fitter than with the saddles themselves, and think that should be mentioned. I know several people that simply cannot deal with her personality.

                          It is unfortunate that we have some pretty difficult personalities to deal with here in NorCal. I will never even consider an Albion Saddle ever again, and it's not because I hate the saddles!
                          No, it wasn't a personality issue, although, hahahaha, I know of the Albion rep to whom you refer As I noted in my post, no "one size fits all", and this was a case of a saddle that would not, could not fit, and a company that would not refund without legal threat and huge battle. At the same time, I also noted a success story with the same fitter. I could tell a similar Schleese story - NONE of the saddle makers will fit every single horse and rider well. NONE of them. There will be success and failure stories with every single saddle out there. There is no perfect saddle for all horses and all riders.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MysticOakRanch View Post
                            No, it wasn't a personality issue, although, hahahaha, I know of the Albion rep to whom you refer As I noted in my post, no "one size fits all", and this was a case of a saddle that would not, could not fit, and a company that would not refund without legal threat and huge battle. At the same time, I also noted a success story with the same fitter. I could tell a similar Schleese story - NONE of the saddle makers will fit every single horse and rider well. NONE of them. There will be success and failure stories with every single saddle out there. There is no perfect saddle for all horses and all riders.
                            Understood. I have to tell you, this is why I don't buy new saddles. Unfortunately for the saddle fitters, I have my horses fit, then buy a used one in the correct tree size.

                            I do this because they will not guarantee the saddle that shows up will fit correctly, it is a nearly $4000 "as is sale"! All saddles are hand made and vary slightly, and some trees are defective. Most of the used saddle dealers will allow a 1 week trial. So with a used saddle you save a thousand dollars or more, and get a trial. The saddle makers are shooting themselves in the foot.
                            On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog

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                            • #15
                              I swear by Custom Saddlery. Both my TB (and I went through three other expensive saddles before the Custom that actually worked for him!) and my young mare have their saddles. Love them, love them, love them, and their rep is good to work with here in the Bay Area.
                              "Reite dein Pferd vorwärts und richte es gerade.” Gustav Steinbrecht

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                              • #16
                                Here at our barn Custom's saddles are by far the most popular. We find the people are very good to deal with but as the number of orders increases, delays are inevitable. I am not familiar with trilogy but found Schleese difficult to deal with. Custom has always allowed my boarders to use the saddle for a trial before requiring payment so I don't see how so many problems could arise. Maybe things on the West Coast are run differently?

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                                • #17
                                  I'm very happy with my Trilogy Amadeo. It is a nicely made saddle. I sprang for the Elite leather, which I'm glad about.

                                  I also am fortunate in having a very good local saddle fitter/Trilogy rep--I think this makes all the difference, no matter what saddle you buy. And it would be the deal-maker for me depending on my local area and who was available.

                                  She's adjusted it so it fits me perfectly as well as my horse. When it first arrived and I rode in it, I thought I'd made a rather expensive mistake, but she persisted with a series of minor changes to the balance of the seat, and got it "just right."

                                  She's been back a few times over the past couple of years to tweak things a bit as we've changed shape, and she's extremely reasonable and very thorough. And she's there within a couple of days of my calling.

                                  Out here in darkest Utah, there's a lot to be said for that. A lot of people out here ride in Schleeses (I've never found one I'm personally comfortable in,) and their fitter comes through every few months. If you have a problem in between times, you are stuck until they turn up, because having anyone else work on your saddle obviates the warranty (it does with Trilogy too, btw.)

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                                  • #18
                                    Julie Weitzel is the fitter for CS in Ohio. Very good!!!
                                    When it's time to replace my saddle, I will def. call her. Love the Wolfgang Solo for my wide shouldered horse. It has a narrow twist, long external thigh blocks, and you couldn't sit crooked in it if you tried.... :-)

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by magienoire View Post
                                      This was my experience with Custom also. Just a **HUGE** waste of time and energy. I also went through 3 tries, repeated tracings, photos, angry letters, phone calls, the whole crappin' 9 yards. I cannot for the life of me figure out how this company has any following at all.

                                      I don't have any experience with Trilogy, so I cannot speak for them. I have dealt with Schleese, and I would certainly see what they had to say regarding your horse. They make a very nice saddle, although I would say somewhat overpriced. If it works for you, though, it is worth it.
                                      I bought an off the shelf Custom saddle that worked really well for my mare for almost a year. Something changed and I had the fitters from Custom come out to adjust it for me. Well, they just altered everything possible, gave me the saddle back and left without waiting to see if the changes worked. I asked if they were going to hang around and give me chance to try it and the lady just told me that she knew what she was doing and that it would work. It didn't, and nor did any of the other saddles they brought out on the next visit - my mare is not an easy horse to fit.

                                      That said, my trainer, and several other people I know, love their Custom saddles, and they do come out more frequently than any other vendor to do adjustments. I still plan on trying to get my Custom adjusted to fit my other mare, who is a much more straight forward horse to fit, since I really like the position the saddle puts me in and the feel I can get from the horse.

                                      I am currently waiting for my custom Schleese to be shipped. Unfortunately, medical reasons are going to affect my ability to try the saddle any time soon. I have been riding my mare in a loaner saddle from Schleese that worked for my mare but which had the wrong seat for me.

                                      I have only been able to try one Trilogy and didn't like it as much as the Schleese.

                                      One thing I liked about Schleese was the longer trial period. Custom gave me very little time to ride in their demo saddles and offered a very short trial period. I didn't feel that I would be able to get my mare back to where she needed to be to make a realistic assessment in the time they were going to give me (she can be fine at the walk and trot, and totally hate the saddle at the canter).

                                      I looked into other companies but either they wouldn't come out to Arizona, or they expected me to order a saddle without even being able to try one first.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Equi88 View Post
                                        Julie Weitzel is the fitter for CS in Ohio. Very good!!!
                                        When it's time to replace my saddle, I will def. call her. Love the Wolfgang Solo for my wide shouldered horse. It has a narrow twist, long external thigh blocks, and you couldn't sit crooked in it if you tried.... :-)
                                        That's the exact one I have! It's amazing! We must have tried about 15 saddles before finding this one. Horse is soooo hard to fit.

                                        Julie came out, took his measurements, adjusted the saddle, put it on him and had me ride. She watched me ride for quite awhile before deciding the fit was good Horse loves it, I love it. She said if we're ever at a show she's more than happy to come over and check on how it's looking and she'll always come out to check it.
                                        No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill
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