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    What music do you use in freestyles, or intend to use in freestyles? It's easier to critique others than create your own. I'm aware of that, but so far have only critiqued others. Within the next year I'll be working on changing that and am interested in the experiences of those of you who have done far more than me. (Or those of you who are in my stage - what do you envision?)

    I've never done a freestyle, and I know it will be even harder than I think to come up with one. I look forward to it, though. I have a CA-bred who was named Tucson for some reason... but now he lives in Tucson. I have musician friends, including one with a recording studio in his home. I'm already telling them which of their songs I want the instrumental tracks for to have them used in my someday freestyle. I foresee a lot of songs with Vicki Brown's violin in my future. Especially as she appears in songs like El Vagabundo.
    Originally posted by Silverbridge
    If you get anything on your Facebook feed about who is going to the Olympics in 2012 or guessing the outcome of Bush v Gore please start threads about those, too.

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    I would like at some point to do a freestyle with a lot of Radical Face, especially their songs Glory and Welcome Home on the Ghost album.

    I would also like to do something to the music from Wicked.
    Yeah, I know it has words but whatever.
    The Noodlehttp://tiny.cc/NGKmT&http://tiny.cc/gioSA
    Jinxyhttp://tiny.cc/PIC798&http://tiny.cc/jinx364
    Boy Wonderhttp://tiny.cc/G9290
    The Hana is nuts! NUTS!!http://tinyurl.com/SOCRAZY

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    • #3
      I'd like to do one someday to "La Vie est Belle" by MC Solaar. I figure if I were going to do one it should be to music that I actually like.
      MelanieC * Canis soloensis

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      • #4
        My Experiences

        I Have been creating my own for 5 years now, after paying to have one made and having it be almost exactly the same as another one done by that choreographer.... I do have some music editing background but mostly you can learn as you make them. I use Sony Acid to edit and my trainer choreographs. The first one a made was to wicked...it did not go over well because the beat is at times the vocals. The audience loved it! I have done horror music (tubular hell, nightmare on elm street, halloween) with mixed results (68%-55% depending on the judge). I have done The Godfather but it is difficult to find a good 2 beat track. I created one for my friend from Esteban (spanish guitar) that she did very well at USPC championships a few years ago with. I did Fiddler on the Roof (instrumental) it was good but my horse hated it. Disco (I will survive, last dance, raining men) all instrumental versions went very well as did Grease (with lyrics). You just need to find what suits you and your horse and what you have fun working with, I would steer away from Wicked though.... Good luck!

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        • #5
          I've made several. Mainly classic rock songs (Spooky, Grazing in the Grass, etc) for friends, and then I have a very bouncy Hanoverian I always make something fun with. I did my first musical to 50s music with woodblocks and alarm clocks rings called "The Syncopated Clock" and two other songs. Then I did a Billy Joel medley, and the last one I did was my "rap/techno" musical that I loved! Intro was MGMT's "Electric Feel", canter was OutKast's "The Way You Move" trot and walk was Gorillaz. No lyrics. It was a lot of fun.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by singak8 View Post
            The first one a made was to wicked...it did not go over well because the beat is at times the vocals.
            ...
            I would steer away from Wicked though.... Good luck!
            Oh, poop.

            But maybe a blessing in disguise as it is a sentimental favorite and I would probably burst into tears the second "Because I knew you..." came on and not be able to steer around the arena.

            Do you have any video of you doing the Wicked one though?
            Sometimes I could use a youtube to cry over....
            The Noodlehttp://tiny.cc/NGKmT&http://tiny.cc/gioSA
            Jinxyhttp://tiny.cc/PIC798&http://tiny.cc/jinx364
            Boy Wonderhttp://tiny.cc/G9290
            The Hana is nuts! NUTS!!http://tinyurl.com/SOCRAZY

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            • #7
              I am hoping to do one this coming year that will include the instrumental track from Muse's "Undisclosed Desires" as the intro. Don't know what I'll put with it yet, but I just love the intro to that song

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              • #8
                I have done two I-1 for two different horses
                one was Rockford Files and Classical Gas - that
                was 15 years ago.

                The second was from Jesus Christ Superstar -
                Herod's Song for the canter, Everthing's All Right
                for the trot (kind of an inside joke since I spent a
                lot of time whispering 'It's all right, you're fine" when
                he was ready to explode) and I don't remember the
                walk. I had two 'O's' judge me - one gave me a 65%
                and loved the music, the other a 55% and hated it.

                I was preparing my GP freestyle to Beatle's music-
                Yellow Submarine and Penny Lane for the passage,
                Lady Madonna for the walk, Ticket to Ride for
                canter, and Help! for the trot. It was a lot of fun.
                'Help me get my feet back on the ground' was the
                extended trot.
                Unfortunately I was diagnosed with cancer that year
                and never was able to compete at that level again.
                One of the few things I never got to do on my
                'bucket list'.
                Last edited by dotneko; Oct. 10, 2010, 01:55 PM.
                www.settlementfarm.us

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by meupatdoes View Post
                  Oh, poop.

                  But maybe a blessing in disguise as it is a sentimental favorite and I would probably burst into tears the second "Because I knew you..." came on and not be able to steer around the arena.

                  Do you have any video of you doing the Wicked one though?
                  Sometimes I could use a youtube to cry over....
                  I think I only have it on VHS, but if over december when I am home I find it and get it onto dvd I will let you know and maybe post it on youtube or something. It isn't my greatest riding, but I was 16 and riding a QH who had to learn first level dressage in a month for USPC championships after my mare got hurt. We entered to popular and trotted to it and walked --> cantered to Wonderful. =) It was a lot of fun.

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                  • #10
                    I used some of the music from Monsters Inc. for my First Level (first ever) freestyle. My horse was bang on the beat at the beginning of the season, but developed a lot more self carriage over the summer and was distinctly behind it by the end. It was great fun and the canter music I chose even had a little dingle into trot beat for the simple change of lead through trot.

                    I'd love to use some music from Carmen, but it wouldn't suit my horse. Gladiator, but ditto about not suiting the horse. I like Riverdance's music, but for a while it was overused so I haven't really considered using it.

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                    • #11
                      News flash! It isn't about what music YOU like, it's about what music WORKS for the horse. Now if the two come together, great. But you start with the horse. That's who is "dancing". The reason we see crappy freestyles is because the rider said "I love this music". But it does nothing for he horse.
                      "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier

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                      • #12
                        Of course it has to work for the horse, but it also
                        darn well better be music YOU like. You will have to
                        listen to it for hours. Personally, I would kill myself
                        if the only music that fit was, say, Gregorian chants
                        or country-western or opera
                        www.settlementfarm.us

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                        • #13
                          I competed in my first freestyles this season also doing the music myself. I used Audacity for putting together and editing the music. It's not too hard if you're willing to spend some time figuring out the program and doing tweaks with it. Download is free so my time working on it was far cheaper than paying for one to be made!

                          http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

                          I used orchestrated music from the Zelda video game. We had an awesome end salute piece, made people jump up and cheer. Yea, we had flair. Judging wise we had artistic scores ranging from 5.5 to 7.5, the one low score that we got (5.5) the comment was that 'it was too much like background music'. I took that comment with a grain of salt that the judge didn't appreciate orchestral music, as the rest of the season (including the other judge for that particular ride) enjoyed it.

                          Sancudo!! I've been searching out music to do for next year and I was SO thinking of using MGMT Electric feel for an entrance. The beat of the beginning of that song is so awesome.

                          Also been toying with doing an entrance to the Jimmy Eat World song Sweetness with the lyric part; "If you are listening, wooo ooo ooo oooo, sing it back wooo ooo ooo oooo"

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mike Matson View Post
                            News flash! It isn't about what music YOU like, it's about what music WORKS for the horse. Now if the two come together, great. But you start with the horse. That's who is "dancing". The reason we see crappy freestyles is because the rider said "I love this music". But it does nothing for he horse.
                            I think we all pretty much understood that on this thread, so not really so much of a news flash... But I'd love your answer to the original question since you know so much more about freestyles. Your input was one of the answers I was most looking forward to when I started the thread.
                            Originally posted by Silverbridge
                            If you get anything on your Facebook feed about who is going to the Olympics in 2012 or guessing the outcome of Bush v Gore please start threads about those, too.

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                            • #15
                              What I saw posted was people saying what music they wanted to use. When you come into the game with music preferences, you miss out on a lot of great music that may work for your horse.

                              When I do my "Ride to Music" clinics I sometimes hear riders tell me what kind of music they would like to use. I tell them to keep an open mind and let's see what works for the horse. When I find the music that works (as validated by the rider and the spectators), the response I get is "I never would have thought that music would be perfect for my horse! I love it!"

                              So keep an open mind and don't allow your preferences to exclude other music.
                              "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier

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                                #16
                                Oh, thanks for that clarification!

                                That definitely makes sense and is great to keep in mind.


                                When I talk about the music I want to use, it's with the thought of what music sounds like it fits with my horse in my head. Not necessarily that I'm *right* as someone who has never put a freestyle together, but when I hear music and can imagine seeing my horse move to it, with it giving the impression I want, that's when it becomes music I want to use.
                                Originally posted by Silverbridge
                                If you get anything on your Facebook feed about who is going to the Olympics in 2012 or guessing the outcome of Bush v Gore please start threads about those, too.

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                                • #17
                                  You can imagine it, but the reality most of the time is that music is not going to work. It's hard finding great music for your horse and harder when you limit yourself to a few preferences. I have 1300 pieces of timed music in my data base and I think I need about 2600 pieces to be sure I can find music for every horse I work with. So far I have found music for every horse at my clinics, but I'll be happier when I get to that 2600 figure. It took 10 years to get to that 1300 figure. Hope I make it to the next ten!
                                  "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier

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                                  • #18
                                    I've done a few myself... and I'm going to have to agree with Mike. I've done a few that were purely for exhibition value and for those I did silly stuff... like one that was during Halloween where I made my horse look like he had been bitten by a vampire and wrote a red stock tie with my shad and rode completely to cartoon music (ie: Underdog, Space Ghost, Flintstones..) If I remember correctly I got a "10" on my music score and the comment was "they are both completely out of control "

                                    But when actually riding for true score and honest competition I've put together songs I've never even heard of. I did one where my walk was to "Green Onions" and I hadn't head of it before. That particular PSG freestyle was also mostly trot to Mission Impossible 2 (trot) and the canter was "Tequila". We got amazing coefficients, never under an 8 on our effort... but my point is that those are not songs I owned before that, nor ones I had really listened to or paid attention to.

                                    Let your horse tell you what he/she likes...
                                    http://dressageesquire.blogspot.com
                                    "The ability to write a check for attire should not be confused with expertise. Proficiency doesn't arrive shrink-wrapped from UPS and placed on your doorstep."

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Mike Matson View Post
                                      You can imagine it, but the reality most of the time is that music is not going to work. It's hard finding great music for your horse and harder when you limit yourself to a few preferences.
                                      This is very very true. More than once I have found myself using music I originally bought for a different horse and sometimes rider that I hadn't ever imagined would work with my mare and also sometimes switching because she hated music that went well. (She is very picky -- it is strange) This was harder to accept when I had allowed myself to get attached to my original idea. Things have been much smoother since I started watching songs with her and doing the math before getting attached because I had imagined something working.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Mike Matson View Post
                                        You can imagine it, but the reality most of the time is that music is not going to work. It's hard finding great music for your horse and harder when you limit yourself to a few preferences. I have 1300 pieces of timed music in my data base and I think I need about 2600 pieces to be sure I can find music for every horse I work with. So far I have found music for every horse at my clinics, but I'll be happier when I get to that 2600 figure. It took 10 years to get to that 1300 figure. Hope I make it to the next ten!

                                        Mike, I have a technical question for you, and I'm being humbly honest here. What sort of tempo/timing do you look for, for each gait? Is it most helpful to develop an ear for it when selecting music that is not recorded specifically for musical freestyles?

                                        I have a horse I'd love to do a freestyle for in 2011, that is a rather large mover. I'm thinking if I could get a feel for the appropriate timing in my head (previous musical experience here, specifically piano) I'd have a better chance of finding music that might fit him.

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