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  • EuroDressage.com has lost it

    I'm really cheesed off by Astrid's latest dork-oid statement, "two native Germans, who ride for Britain and the United States." She's talking about the WEG Grand Prix Special results.

    Duh, AA, they do not just "ride" for our countries, they are now CITIZENS of our countries. Get it straight and stop making less of the fact that these people worked hard to become citizens of their new countries and are now representing said countries.

    Not a great reporter if she's going to write that stuff and make less of the riders and the countries they represent. And trust me, this is NOT due to the fact that she doesn't speak English! This is Euro-centric dressage riding that wants to slam other countries.
    Last edited by Velvet; Oct. 1, 2010, 04:07 PM.
    "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"

  • #2
    Honestly, Velvet, why are you so surprised! That's Aphid Aptless just doing what she does best.


    • #3
      Lets see, if it walks like a German, talks like a German, rides like a German,
      it must be a duck?
      2nd string German riders who joined another country so they could get to ride in the Olympics because they weren't good enough to ride for the German team. And thank God a German or two rides for the U.S.A.!

      And thank God for the German system of dressage, a bulwark against Dutch neo con dressage.


      • Original Poster

        That's another part of my point. They were tossed aside by the Germans. They weren't "good enough" and NOW they want to lay claim to them because they were supported by OUR countries and won silver and bronze medals?

        She's trying to make the German's winners--and in this case, it's not true. Oh, yes, they trained there, but WE support Steffen and he found the opportunities to succeed by being in OUR country.

        Yep, I'm going to beat the "We're Americans!" drum right now--because Steffen IS an American. I suggest the Brits do the same for Laura.
        "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"


        • Original Poster

          Oh, wait, I've got it now. She should have written about reining.

          "McCutcheon, who has taught clinics in Germany, has won the Reining Gold Medal at the 2010 WEG."

          Yep, that would fit with her form of reporting.
          "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"


          • #6
            I can see disagreeing with someone's opinion, but all Astrid did was state the facts.

            Why does it 'cheese you off' that she mentioned that they were born in Germany?

            There's been lots of talk about Katherine Bateson being born in Great Britain. Is that inappropriate too?


            • #7
              I apologize, Velvet

              I see where you explained why it bothered you.


              • Original Poster

                She bugs me, because she makes it sound like we're renting them for our countries, rather than they are citizens of our countries representing our countries.
                "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"


                • #9
                  Originally posted by Plantagenet View Post
                  I can see disagreeing with someone's opinion, but all Astrid did was state the facts.
                  Errrrrrrrrrrr- no.

                  There are no German born riders on the British team.

                  All four born in the UK, and all four have lengthy junior and young rider records representing Great Britain. She really should know better.

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                  • #10
                    I think you are making mountains out of molehills. Lighten up
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                    • #11


                      THANK YOU, EQUIBRIT!


                      • #12

                        We export riders to Germany and other countries too. Meredith Michaels-Beerbaum for one. I think Robert Dover and David O'Connor have done a little 'work' for other countries.

                        I wouldn't argue with the suggestion that the Germans produce more good riders and good Amateur riders than the USA. I also wouldn't argue that they have a better system. Hell, they have a system. I think maybe that is what makes the OP a little jealous. No doubt about it, the Germans have us beat there.
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                        • Original Poster

                          I an see the jealousy angle--especially since they didn't have anyone in the top three in the Grand Prix Special. I guess they have a need (or Aphid does--thanks suzy) to claim some glory that does not really belong to them.

                          We all know that Steffen came from there, but we also all know that he became an American citizen and is representing our country. He is not on loan to us. He's an American. It's insulting to only point out that he came from Germany and not to point out that he's an American, representing America.
                          "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Velvet View Post
                            Yep, I'm going to beat the "We're Americans!" drum right now--because Steffen IS an American. I suggest the Brits do the same for Laura.
                            We don't need to.


                            • #15
                              I would prefer to use good ole American riders, and import an Olympic level European trainer....or did we get some of them already?


                              • #16
                                Hey, we had Balkenhol for a while...


                                • Original Poster

                                  Yeah, we had Klaus, but did we only call him an American coach and never mention that he was a German citizen?

                                  I'm guessing, with this additional information, that maybe the sour grapes do go much deeper. Think about it, we also have people who buy some of their really nice international horses.
                                  "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"


                                  • #18
                                    I remember reading that Steffen's favorite sport, next to riding, is surfing. Now if that's not Californian Dude, what is? OK, I guess he could of gone to Australia. But he's probably more American than a lot who were born here.
                                    Groom to trainer: "Where's the glamour? You promised me glamour!"


                                    • #19
                                      I guess Belgium must not have a "system" then, as they don't produce championship riders. They don't seem to attract Germans however. Wonder why?
                                      The offending portion seems to have disappeared, or maybe I just couldn't find it!
                                      Last edited by Equibrit; Oct. 2, 2010, 10:20 AM.
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                                      • #20
                                        I am a grand-daughter of immigrants and I am a very proud American but I'm also proud of my Eastern-European heritage. Can't see why you are so angry at someone reporting what is actually FACT.
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