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  • AS we know, even the best fall!yet still no helmets

    “I walked her, Nadine, Saturday and worked her lightly, and when I walked back to the stable she was really relaxed and just on long rein,” he said. “I came around the corner, and she slipped with her back legs out behind her and fell on her knees, and we sort of fell over. It was quite scary.”
    breeder of Mercury!

    remember to enjoy the moment, and take a moment to enjoy and give God the glory for these wonderful horses in our lives.BECAUSE: LIFE is What Happens While Making Other Plans

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    I saw a link to this NYT article over in Off Course.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/29/sp...?src=twt&twt=n

    I know people on this board are tired of debating the issue, but it did make the Times!
    2012 goal: learn to ride like a Barn Rat

    A helmet saved my life.

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    • #3
      No debate. Unless it is required people will continue to ride without helmets. It's like seat belts. People will be stupid and lives will be lost or serious injuries occurring. Like riding with gloves, once you become accustomed to wearing a helmet, you feel naked without one. As always, JMHO
      Groom to trainer: "Where's the glamour? You promised me glamour!"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by CFFarm View Post
        No debate. Unless it is required people will continue to ride without helmets. It's like seat belts. People will be stupid and lives will be lost or serious injuries occurring. Like riding with gloves, once you become accustomed to wearing a helmet, you feel naked without one. As always, JMHO
        Oh jeezus... riding horses is dangerous... they buck, bolt, step on you, run you into trees, bite, get scared and do someting dumb...

        helmets are precautionary, if you're dead you're dead. Get over it and quit trying to save everyone. Some just arent worth saving

        I apologize CFFarm, i didnt meant to take it out on you. But there are some other people that take the helmet debate too far...
        Carol and Princess Dewi

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          #5
          with Nadinejust a quiet hack , back to the barn

          h jeezus... riding horses is dangerous... they buck, bolt, step on you, run you into trees, bite, get scared and do someting dumb...
          Last edited by Carol Ames; Sep. 29, 2010, 12:20 PM. Reason: ypos
          breeder of Mercury!

          remember to enjoy the moment, and take a moment to enjoy and give God the glory for these wonderful horses in our lives.BECAUSE: LIFE is What Happens While Making Other Plans

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          • #6
            Quote from the article:

            “I’m a proponent for helmet use, but it’s totally up to the individual,” King Dye said in an e-mail typed with her left hand.

            Even Courtney recognized its a personal decision. Maybe you all should follow in her foot steps.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sandra6500 View Post
              Quote from the article:

              “I’m a proponent for helmet use, but it’s totally up to the individual,” King Dye said in an e-mail typed with her left hand.

              Even Courtney recognized its a personal decision. Maybe you all should follow in her foot steps.
              Consider the source.
              madeline
              * What you release is what you teach * Don't be distracted by unwanted behavior* Whoever waits the longest is the teacher. Van Hargis

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              • #8
                What the heck is that suppose to mean?

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                • #9
                  Well, it's a suggestion that "helmet use is personal" from someone who has very recently suffered a major head injury, causing significant( and probably permanent) disruption of her life and the lives of those around her. I'm not a big advocate of blaming the victim, but I certainly am not going to listen to her advice on helmet-wearing, either.
                  madeline
                  * What you release is what you teach * Don't be distracted by unwanted behavior* Whoever waits the longest is the teacher. Van Hargis

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Madeline View Post
                    Well, it's a suggestion that "helmet use is personal" from someone who has very recently suffered a major head injury, causing significant( and probably permanent) disruption of her life and the lives of those around her. I'm not a big advocate of blaming the victim, but I certainly am not going to listen to her advice on helmet-wearing, either.
                    Her statement implies that it's your choice. So, you're going to let someone else decide whether you wear a helmet or not?
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                    • #11
                      I think the thing that makes me sad about this, just like seatbelt laws, is that though sure, you should be allowed to wear whatever you'd like on your head (including glittery headbands with stars on boingy things - anyone remember those? sorry - went off into dreamland) - the caveat is that it does not only affect you.

                      That's right - your actions have effects on other people.

                      Want to know why it's so hard to find places to ride anymore? In addition to the fact that developments are popping up right and left, it's expensive as heck to get insurance, and the risk of liability from a horse and rider just crossing your field is high. Why is that? Because horseback riding is inherently unsafe - and insurance companies know that. Making it safer would go a long way toward reducing premiums - which is really based on a numeric calculation of number of deaths.

                      Same thing goes with seatbelt laws.

                      In addition, when a death or disability occurs, it is your loved ones who suffer, as well as the sport. We've just had a death in the family that was entirely preventable. Let me just tell you how much it sucks for those left behind. The person exercised his right to do whatever he wanted to do - that's for sure - but it didn't hurt just him.

                      I'm not saying that non-helmet-wearing should be illegal - but I'd be thinking about it differently if I were a non-helmet-wearer. Fortunately, my helmet has been glued to my head since I was a kid (way before the current studies go) because my Mom was a freakazoid about head injuries. Thank heavens, because I use my brain as my source of income!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by OneGrayPony View Post
                        That's right - your actions have effects on other people.

                        Want to know why it's so hard to find places to ride anymore? In addition to the fact that developments are popping up right and left, it's expensive as heck to get insurance, and the risk of liability from a horse and rider just crossing your field is high. Why is that? Because horseback riding is inherently unsafe - and insurance companies know that. Making it safer would go a long way toward reducing premiums - which is really based on a numeric calculation of number of deaths.
                        This is probably the most sensible statement I've ever read about the helmet debate. Yes, we may already be dead if the horse bolts/bucks/spooks/rears hard enough, but a helmet can mitigate injuries and death in many cases.

                        On a personal note, I live with someone who suffered a traumatic brain injury (not equine related) about eight years ago. I can tell you that TBI brings its own special chaos not just to the person with the injury but to his or her family and friends as well. From the chronic headaches to the lack of impulse control to the bursts of unexplained anger, my husband is not the man I married. If I could turn back the clock and make him safer in the moment it happened, I would.

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                        • #13
                          What's the logic for NOT wearing a helmet?
                          Groom to trainer: "Where's the glamour? You promised me glamour!"

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by CFFarm View Post
                            What's the logic for NOT wearing a helmet?
                            Messes up your hair...
                            madeline
                            * What you release is what you teach * Don't be distracted by unwanted behavior* Whoever waits the longest is the teacher. Van Hargis

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CFFarm View Post
                              What's the logic for NOT wearing a helmet?
                              It makes me look like a dork.

                              (not my words, I'm a confirmed helmet wearer). I just hear that from people I know who won't where helmets. In their minds their reason is perfectly logical.
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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by CFFarm View Post
                                What's the logic for NOT wearing a helmet?
                                It just isn't DONE! Not from me but from others. I always wear my helmet now. CKD's Accident confirmed it for me.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Sandra6500 View Post
                                  Quote from the article:

                                  “I’m a proponent for helmet use, but it’s totally up to the individual,” King Dye said in an e-mail typed with her left hand.

                                  Even Courtney recognized its a personal decision. Maybe you all should follow in her foot steps.
                                  No, thanks. Her footsteps led her to a TBI. Not a place I want to go. I have more sense than that.
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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by jenm View Post
                                    It makes me look like a dork.

                                    (not my words, I'm a confirmed helmet wearer). I just hear that from people I know who won't where helmets. In their minds their reason is perfectly logical.
                                    I hear that all the time. And I personally think sitting in a wheelchair, drooling, would make for a much dorkier look, especially given that one has the choice to avoid being in that chair.
                                    "Argue for your limitations and you get to keep them."
                                    -Richard S. Bach

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                                      #19
                                      Think bigger!

                                      The fall with permanent damage effects not only that rider but, the entire equestrian community including, 10 year old girls begging for riding lessons; I was once one of those ,fighting the image of horseback riding as being dangerous because of two high profile accidents in our area; look at the fallout continuing from Chris Reeves' fall
                                      breeder of Mercury!

                                      remember to enjoy the moment, and take a moment to enjoy and give God the glory for these wonderful horses in our lives.BECAUSE: LIFE is What Happens While Making Other Plans

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                                      • Original Poster

                                        #20
                                        think globally, act locally

                                        mindful of ridings' classification by many as dangerous; the BIG picture; act locally and wear a helmet; lest you become "just another statistic"
                                        breeder of Mercury!

                                        remember to enjoy the moment, and take a moment to enjoy and give God the glory for these wonderful horses in our lives.BECAUSE: LIFE is What Happens While Making Other Plans

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