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How do you avoid crazy buyers?

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  • How do you avoid crazy buyers?

    When you listed a horse for sale on dreamhorse, etc how do you avoid all the crazy buyers? Such as people saying they have the money for boarding but can't pay for the horse, or offering an outrageous low amount?. Or those folks that expect a horse to jump, etc even though add says the horse is green and lists what the horse can do.
    Also are there any websites for dressage horses/hunter-jumper horses that aren't main stream like dreamhorse or equine.com.I want show riders/etc people and not trail riding women in their 50's replying to an ad about a show horse gelding. Where else can I put him up? He is one of those good as gold ones as a babysitter type. Asking very low amount for him.
    So how do you get the buyers to respond, the ones who actually ride english and understand horse is worth more than the asking price. I know it's an option to put horse in full time training on consignment but that's not really an option right now and since there a young trainer working with horse, but she has no horse selling experience, and owner doesn't want horse in additional training before selling. Any way to consign with sale percentage without training+board at trainers facility?

  • #2
    Originally posted by moonlightride View Post
    Any way to consign with sale percentage without training+board at trainers facility?
    Sell horse to trainer to "flip"
    The journey is the destination.


    • Original Poster

      How does that work? Trainers haven't called about buying the horse. They usually buy from word of mouth, at least the real trainers. The other type of trainer, so called trainers expect to get free horses handed to them, the average Sally that hangs up a lesson sign.


      • #4
        As for your original question, basically you don't. Or anyway, I have yet to find the trick. You make your ad as specific as possible, but online ads always get tire kickers or other time wasters. Personally I have better luck with print ads in regional publications, which at least have the benefit of requiring people to stop into a tack shop or have a subscription.

        And yeah, IME unless your horse is fancy enough and your asking price is low enough that a trainer thinks they can make a nice profit, it will be hard to find someone to buy him to flip him unless they specialize in that. You could ask around and see if anyone does that type of thing, though.
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        • #5
          If the horse is a warmblood, you might want to try www.warmbloods-for-sale.com. That will at least narrow your audience a bit.
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          • #6
            You can't. You just have to deal and weed them out.


            • Original Poster

              Please give me some websites that most people who offer $500 for horses don't frequent or know about. I will keep ad on dreamhorse, but perhaps should post in some spots where show people or dressage people are more likely to look. It might take longer to sell on a less known website or publication, but might be better to find genuine buyers on there. So I am asking what are some other online options and publications, etc to sell a horse?


              • #8
                Is this hard a member of a registry? many registries have a classified section (so if he's hanoverian, oldenburg, arabian, etc.. that is one way).


                • #9
                  Take a long hard look at your ad. You may be pitching the horse wrong if you are getting the wrong kind of buyer.

                  And there's always the "delete" button.

                  Oh, and a horse could do worse than end up with a 50-something trail rider, you know.


                  • #10
                    I have sold horses for decent prices through dreamhorse and equine.com and have had, of course, a couple crazies but mostly great buyers. I don't think there is a way to avoid them. If you're getting a lot of these people, maybe he is priced too low. I think the low priced horses draw out people who start asking/expecting ridiculous things.

                    Also, I agree that someone who wants to trail ride, etc is a fine home if they are willing to spend the money and would offer suitable care. A horse doesn't feel the urge to show - I think they'd be just as happy to relax in the pasture or go on a quiet trail ride.

                    I sold one horse to someone who intended to show and has only ended up going to a little schooling show once (she's had him over two years now). So the buyer who intends to show can end up with different priorities.


                    • #11
                      I have a very simple solution for avoiding crazy horse buyers. I never sell a horse! LOL!
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                      • Original Poster

                        Actually the trail ladies expect a green horse who's not even described as a trail horse, to be bombproof totally push button. And these ladies say they have property, etc but want the horse for free. I've had emails where they describe how good they will treat the horse, how nice their property is, and horse has to be free or $500.
                        I've even had emails from people telling me they rescued a horse or all there horses were free, so they feel like I need to sell this horse for free to, etc, etc.
                        And then there's the folks that negotiate on the first line of the email without even calling or chatting about the horse.
                        So yes I really want to market towards hunter/jumper, dressage/and show folks and more serious riders.


                        • #13
                          I would do up an email with links to photo/video and email it to the barns in your area.

                          Cheap horses can bring out the most unrealistic expectations.

                          I had two here recently and had people threaten me when I wouldn't let them come look at them, despite the fact I was trying to keep them from making the mistake of buying a super green horse for a super green rider. they just felt insulted.

                          The one that slipped through the cracks was mad at the owner as the horse wasn't trained as much as she had said (horse was advertised as green with 7 weeks pro training...I could walk/trot/canter and trot jumps on it) because miss can't post couldn't ride the horse.

                          Ended up selling both sight unseen to experienced homes (off of video).
                          Freeing worms from cans everywhere!


                          • #14
                            I have the opposite problem - how does one buy a horse without dealing with crazy owners? They tell you the horse is 16 hands and if it's 15 hands that's a generous measurement. They want a fair amount of money for a horse that hasn't been ridden in 2 years, is out of shape and other than being "trail safe" has little real training. Horse also drives except there was a mishap and it doesn't drive anymore. The list is endless. Sometimes I can figure it out by talking to them but usually I have to waste a day looking at horses that are not as advertised. (Did I mention that I hate horse shopping?)


                            • #15
                              it is the reason that agents charge the exorbitant prices they do for buy/sell
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                              • #16
                                I don't think you can prevent them from contacting you, just weed them out once they do.

                                For emails that are unrealistic, simply don't answer them.

                                I talked to folks on the phone, tried to find out about them and then told them honestly if the horse was a match or not.
                                I have horse to sell to you. Horse good for riding. Can pull cart. Horse good size. Eats carrots and apples. Likes attention. Move head to music. No like opera! You like you buy.


                                • #17
                                  Raise your price.

                                  No, seriously.
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                                  • #18
                                    I could share with you the story of "the humper" or how about the woman who punched, yes, closed fisted punch a horse in the face that she came to try. I've got stories......and I have only sold a couple horses. I can't imagine people who make their living in horses. There should be a book put together but those outside of horses would think its fiction!!
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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by TheHorseProblem View Post
                                      Raise your price.

                                      No, seriously.
                                      Absolutely. There are weird buyers at all levels, but the low end (free/cheap horses) seems to bring out extra of them.


                                      • #20
                                        Try dressagedaily.com. They seem to cater to serious buyers/sellers.