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    Originally posted by eggbutt View Post

    I am thrilled you are here to defend Lauren. But why are you here defending her? Remember, this thread was about any news on either trial and it was highjacked to give an update on Lauren and her first show since the shooting. A significant event. I congratulated her for obtaining her bronze medal at last. I also questioned why she scratched three other classes. Nothing vicious or condescending.

    And yes, it is a shame others have not found their justice with Lauren because she has dodged the process servers. She is always so innocent but does not accept the filings to prove her innocence. Does that make her above the law or make her smarter than her accusers? Rhetorical question....no response needed.
    You are again making what seem to be uncorroborated criminal accusations. This is not allowed by coth without your name.


    I dont want you to give your name. I want you to stop stalking a nobody and slagging her on the internets. Its weird.
    Let me apologize in advance.

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      Why is it that people think they can tell people not to respond to their nonsense?

      Generally speaking, you can control your response, not others.
      Let me apologize in advance.

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        Originally posted by ladyj79 View Post

        You are again making what seem to be uncorroborated criminal accusations. This is not allowed by coth without your name.


        I dont want you to give your name. I want you to stop stalking a nobody and slagging her on the internets. Its weird.
        Same, it really is weird. This has gone on for far too long. Moderator 1

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          Originally posted by eggbutt View Post


          For those intent on bashing me for my dislike (not obsession) of LK, perhaps you should consider many people know of and have witnessed her despicable behavior and find it intolerable.
          And yet...those many people aren't talking about her on COTH every chance they get, which is why we're discussing (not bashing) your obsession (because that's clearly what it is).

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            Wow two pages about scratching classes. Who cares!? If her coach doesn’t why should Suzy Sidelines? Good god people get a life!

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              I was curious before this thread was started to hear what was going on with the courts in that part of the world, both civil and criminal, with the covid thing.

              It is a strange road bump to navigate.

              I was glad someone started a thread so we could learn that information.

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                Originally posted by Annandale View Post

                Same, it really is weird. This has gone on for far too long. Moderator 1
                Threads die when no one responds. Perhaps if those who dislike the direction a thread is taking, instead of responding how much they dislike the direction or tatteling to the mods, would simply stop posting the thread would simply die.

                AKA don't feed the trolls.

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                  The moderator has repeatedly closed these threads saying a new one can start when there is news in the case from a public source. There is no news, but Eggbutt thanked Danvers for starting the thread so she did not have to.
                  If there is movement in the case, lots of people are interested, but there is a core of 3 or 4 posters, led by Eggbutt, who use the threads to rehash tired criticisms of LK. Scratched a lot. She has been refusing to answer the door for two years, etc.
                  If the posters who are objecting to the tired, repetitive bashing of LK were to leave, the thread would not die, the LK bashers would just continue on with their bashing without any pushback.
                  Last edited by YankeeDuchess; Jul. 1, 2020, 11:33 AM.

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                    Originally posted by YankeeDuchess View Post
                    If the posters who are objecting to the tired, repetitive bashing of LK were to leave, the thread would not die, the LK bashers would just continue on with their bashing without any pushback.
                    All of the previous threads were about to die until LK showed back up to get them going again. It is a pattern for her on this forum. There were even a few threads where her commentary could be considered baiting in order to make the thread about her. This one has been relatively slow.

                    I for one was interested to hear about the third bronze medal score because it was a major point of contention in thread and the source of major accusation from LK. LK was on here practically threatening to sue the USDF to get her duplicate judge score counted for her bronze....and she was using the mistaken congratulations as a source for her claim of fraud from MB. I think the implications on the scores speaks volumes for what might turn out from the discovery of the two cases.

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                      Originally posted by Sdel View Post

                      I think the implications on the scores speaks volumes for what might turn out from the discovery of the two cases.

                      ???
                      Let me apologize in advance.

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                        Originally posted by Sdel View Post

                        All of the previous threads were about to die until LK showed back up to get them going again. It is a pattern for her on this forum. There were even a few threads where her commentary could be considered baiting in order to make the thread about her. This one has been relatively slow.

                        I for one was interested to hear about the third bronze medal score because it was a major point of contention in thread and the source of major accusation from LK. LK was on here practically threatening to sue the USDF to get her duplicate judge score counted for her bronze....and she was using the mistaken congratulations as a source for her claim of fraud from MB. I think the implications on the scores speaks volumes for what might turn out from the discovery of the two cases.

                        Was LK on here threatening to sue USEF over the 2nd level score, or were Eggbutt and Co claiming that she was threatening to sue? Big difference.

                        IMO, these threads go on and on with put downs of LK whether she posts of not.

                        Let’s see if this one dies out now that the news that she has her Bronze has been disclosed.

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                          I thought there was going to be a hearing onJuly 6? This is going to go on FOREVER!

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                            Originally posted by Danvers View Post
                            I thought there was going to be a hearing onJuly 6? This is going to go on FOREVER!
                            There was a video hearing.
                            There will be another one in August.
                            I believe it was just a status update for both sides.

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                              Originally posted by YankeeDuchess View Post


                              Was LK on here threatening to sue USEF over the 2nd level score, or were Eggbutt and Co claiming that she was threatening to sue? Big difference.

                              IMO, these threads go on and on with put downs of LK whether she posts of not.

                              Let’s see if this one dies out now that the news that she has her Bronze has been disclosed.
                              I don't know about you....but I took notes so I could keep LK's claims straight.

                              She made direct claims that her bronze medal scores were part of "numerous investigations" and that she expected the USDF to give her the bronze because of "MB's behavior" and "evidence". The context, based on her very snobby commentary about how just re-riding the test was un-necessary (because she had the scores not the judges) and beneath her, was that it was pretty clear she intended her lawyers to get the medal for her. She directly linked this failure to get the requisite scores as a contributing factor to the shooting. She also more than once stated that MB and MH owed a written explanation for a fake congratulations, stated that screwing up the entries/scores was a "pattern" that was under USDF investigation and claimed it was an intentional act of fraud to milk clients for more money.


                              ETA: Sorry it took so long to reply.....I think I had caught the plague that is going around.

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                                Originally posted by ladyj79 View Post


                                ???
                                She's out of touch with reality. Someone says ABC to LK and she hears 123. There are quite a few pieces of evidence for this though out the various threads.

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                                  Originally posted by Sdel View Post

                                  I don't know about you....but I took notes so I could keep LK's claims straight.

                                  She made direct claims that her bronze medal scores were part of "numerous investigations" and that she expected the USDF to give her the bronze because of "MB's behavior" and "evidence". The context, based on her very snobby commentary about how just re-riding the test was un-necessary (because she had the scores not the judges) and beneath her, was that it was pretty clear she intended her lawyers to get the medal for her. She directly linked this failure to get the requisite scores as a contributing factor to the shooting. She also more than once stated that MB and MH owed a written explanation for a fake congratulations, stated that screwing up the entries/scores was a "pattern" that was under USDF investigation and claimed it was an intentional act of fraud to milk clients for more money.


                                  ETA: Sorry it took so long to reply.....I think I had caught the plague that is going around.
                                  good lord! The USDF may have to call Safe Sport on HER for bullying! I hope you're feeling better.
                                  Humans dont mind duress, in fact they thrive on it. What they mind is not feeling necessary. Sebastian Junger

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                                    Originally posted by tryintogethere View Post

                                    There was a video hearing.
                                    There will be another one in August.
                                    I believe it was just a status update for both sides.
                                    On the civil case or the criminal case?

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                                      Originally posted by trubandloki View Post

                                      On the civil case or the criminal case?
                                      Criminal case.

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                                        Originally posted by Sdel View Post

                                        I don't know about you....but I took notes so I could keep LK's claims straight.

                                        She made direct claims that her bronze medal scores were part of "numerous investigations" and that she expected the USDF to give her the bronze because of "MB's behavior" and "evidence". The context, based on her very snobby commentary about how just re-riding the test was un-necessary (because she had the scores not the judges) and beneath her, was that it was pretty clear she intended her lawyers to get the medal for her. She directly linked this failure to get the requisite scores as a contributing factor to the shooting. She also more than once stated that MB and MH owed a written explanation for a fake congratulations, stated that screwing up the entries/scores was a "pattern" that was under USDF investigation and claimed it was an intentional act of fraud to milk clients for more money.


                                        ETA: Sorry it took so long to reply.....I think I had caught the plague that is going around.
                                        That’s how I remember it. But her filing a complaint with USEF for MB bullying her, and her asserting that his manipulating her entries and leading her to think she had her bronze is NOT the same as her suing or threatening to sue, USDF.

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                                          Originally posted by Bogey2 View Post

                                          good lord! The USDF may have to call Safe Sport on HER for bullying! I hope you're feeling better.
                                          In one of the early hearings, MBs attorney claimed that MB had filed a claim of bullying against LK with SS. LK originally reported MB to SS, but in the case of adults, bullying is handled by USEF, not SS, which is why the investigation ended up at USEF.

                                          A couple of other people had reported LK to USEF for bullying prior to the shooting, and the investigation resulted in no action against LK, as reported in the NYT.

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