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  • So we are to believe MB and MH plotted the demise of others??? And this is all for the sake of getting horses that y’all owned but would not sell to them???

    Huh, sounds like dressage is a very dangerous sport with an incredible shortage of good horseflesh if people are willing to kill for better horses.

    Do you realize how far fetched and fantastical this sounds? Now all we need is a Mafia connection since it is New Jersey!
    "You can't fix stupid"- Ron White

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    • Originally posted by cutter99 View Post
      So we are to believe MB and MH plotted the demise of others??? And this is all for the sake of getting horses that y’all owned but would not sell to them???

      Huh, sounds like dressage is a very dangerous sport with an incredible shortage of good horseflesh if people are willing to kill for better horses.

      Do you realize how far fetched and fantastical this sounds? Now all we need is a Mafia connection since it is New Jersey!
      In honor of the Sopranos and NJ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRrciJ3yE6Y

      Didn't somebody make an accusation that MB had bodies buried on his property?? Seems I remember that from one of the threads.

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      • Originally posted by BigMama1 View Post

        Yes, I think it’s the same as in Canada, where (per the info on the page I linked) to compete in a CDI at home, you need to have the appropriate memberships / horse passport and complete the “permission to compete” form, and for CDIs outside your home country, the minimum score requirements apply.

        I’m sure if someone really cares they could find it somewhere on the USEF site, but most people here seem too busy having inane petty arguments, sniping at each other over petty things, or quoting for posterity. And I edited this post, just because I could
        Yes, the info was in the linked page, just need to look around. I’m not a dressage person, so I wasn’t that interested in the end result. I was just curious if YD would have looked herself before posting a question about it. Apparently not.

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        • Originally posted by Wilbury Pie View Post

          Yes, the info was in the linked page, just need to look around. I’m not a dressage person, so I wasn’t that interested in the end result. I was just curious if YD would have looked herself before posting a question about it. Apparently not.
          Not that YD derserves it, but I'll take the hit for the question several pages ago. I looked a bit, could not find anything that said you needed scores, but also did not find anything that said you DIDN'T need scores. The USEF rule book does not cover CDIs - those are under the purview of the FEI. So I asked, because I did remember someone stating that you needed scores before entering a CDI - which the original poster of that has since clarified.

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          • Originally posted by La-LaPopRider View Post

            Yeah, FEI doesn’t have me listed as an “athlete,” bc I hadn’t ridden the test yet at a show! Yet..... here I am, right on the ride list for the FEI PSG Q on one day, (along with another two tests) - no FEI the other day- just 3-3 and 4-1 and no confirmed times (yet) for the NON sweepstakes CDI or any other tests- bc my entry was very late. I did get in at the very last minute to a CDI class & another class which I didn’t really need but being there for 5 days- why not? I had no intention of riding the NON CDI FEI PSG or the CDI PSG until it was absolutely ready & given the stamp of “ok,,” by MB. I got that. Knew I would .... but only booked my AIRBNB a month out to be sure my usual cabin would be available for me & be extra sure I was prepared.
            Since you know this show SO well...... you must also have the slew of email exchanges between show management & myself in addition to these 3 screenshots of a show you claim I wasn’t entered into. I Click image for larger version Name:	0B68606B-9BCC-4287-9649-41D7B071F933.jpeg Views:	1 Size:	10.9 KB ID:	10560528Click image for larger version Name:	E53DC9F4-C36E-44D8-951C-17E86CF6F90A.jpeg Views:	1 Size:	11.7 KB ID:	10560529 mean, I can’t share emails- (I checked) - but I can’t stop anyone else from (sort of) doxxing! These are only Friday & sundays rides - Do you think I was going to twiddle my thumbs on Thursday & Saturday - having 3 stalls, 2 tack stalls (a paddock I THINK) plus an AIRBNB booked through the following tues or weds? (As a mini vacation in Saugerties to unwind....)
            I hate to be the bearer of bad news - that IS the national show PSG, NOT the CDI class. The Class number for the CDI PSG is/was S1.

            Here is a link to the results from that show, where you can see the difference in the class numbers:

            http://results.horseshowoffice.com/S...?sid=54&oid=24

            You truly may have believed that you were entered in the CDI, but maybe you just didn't know there was a difference between the two.

            The BS about not showing up on the FEI site since you didn't ride - I'm not giving out their names - but I looked up two different people that I know rode CDIs a long time ago, long ago enough to the point that no results show up for them, and their names are still listed on the FEI site. They have membership numbers, as would you if you had completed all the necessary steps to enter a CDI.

            In addition, I've shown the PSG multiple times, but not at a CDI, so guess what? My name is NOT on the FEI site.

            You do know there is a whole process to a CDI, right? Horse has to be stabled in a different area of the barn, have specific vaccinations, subjected to inspections by the vet, has to go through a FEI jog before the competition begins?

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            • Originally posted by iris2006 View Post
              I have an idea. Why don't all of you that are arguing with each other all the time and making this thread nearly impossible to read, start PMing each other? I imagine you can keep each other busy for hours. Or start a new thread and call it "I like to talk about my feelings on Chronicle of the Horse forums"
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              • Originally posted by rothmpp View Post

                I hate to be the bearer of bad news - that IS the national show PSG, NOT the CDI class. The Class number for the CDI PSG is/was S1.

                Here is a link to the results from that show, where you can see the difference in the class numbers:

                http://results.horseshowoffice.com/S...?sid=54&oid=24

                You truly may have believed that you were entered in the CDI, but maybe you just didn't know there was a difference between the two.

                The BS about not showing up on the FEI site since you didn't ride - I'm not giving out their names - but I looked up two different people that I know rode CDIs a long time ago, long ago enough to the point that no results show up for them, and their names are still listed on the FEI site. They have membership numbers, as would you if you had completed all the necessary steps to enter a CDI.

                In addition, I've shown the PSG multiple times, but not at a CDI, so guess what? My name is NOT on the FEI site.

                You do know there is a whole process to a CDI, right? Horse has to be stabled in a different area of the barn, have specific vaccinations, subjected to inspections by the vet, has to go through a FEI jog before the competition begins?
                Not to take up for La La, however if she was unaware of the rules for being awarded a Bronze (or any medal) I highly doubt she was aware of National vs FEI CDI’s. Maybe she was told it was an FEI CDI, maybe she just assumed.

                I just gather from her posts and YD, that despite the show/dressage experience, there is a lack of knowledge when it comes to the rule book and when it comes to class requirements.

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                • Originally posted by rothmpp View Post

                  Not that YD derserves it, but I'll take the hit for the question several pages ago. I looked a bit, could not find anything that said you needed scores, but also did not find anything that said you DIDN'T need scores. The USEF rule book does not cover CDIs - those are under the purview of the FEI. So I asked, because I did remember someone stating that you needed scores before entering a CDI - which the original poster of that has since clarified.
                  As rothmpp says, it was she who brought up the question. I had previously researched it on the USEF site, and reported that my understanding was that qualifying scores were needed for foreign CDIs, but not home CDIs. However, I also assumed posters would not believe the statement coming from me.

                  Indeed, I received slag for posting my understanding of the rule, and was told to shut up unless I had been “putting on CDI’s” myself. As if it would be necessary to “put on CDIs” in orders to know the rules for entering one! The USEF site has a 4 page document that describes the requirements for entering both foreign and domestic CDIs.

                  The information that FEI registration could be made after the ride was from the FEI site.

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                  • Originally posted by Wilbury Pie View Post

                    Yes, the info was in the linked page, just need to look around. I’m not a dressage person, so I wasn’t that interested in the end result. I was just curious if YD would have looked herself before posting a question about it. Apparently not.

                    Kindly see post #1267.

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                    • Originally posted by cutter99 View Post
                      Do you realize how far fetched and fantastical this sounds? Now all we need is a Mafia connection since it is New Jersey!
                      Nothing like handing the defense their case. Wrapped up and tied with a bow.

                      Edited to add that the comment is NOT directed at cutter99, in case my sarcasm was misconstrued.
                      "Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple Barry Switzer

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                      • Originally posted by rothmpp View Post

                        I hate to be the bearer of bad news - that IS the national show PSG, NOT the CDI class. The Class number for the CDI PSG is/was S1.

                        Here is a link to the results from that show, where you can see the difference in the class numbers:

                        http://results.horseshowoffice.com/S...?sid=54&oid=24

                        You truly may have believed that you were entered in the CDI, but maybe you just didn't know there was a difference between the two.

                        The BS about not showing up on the FEI site since you didn't ride - I'm not giving out their names - but I looked up two different people that I know rode CDIs a long time ago, long ago enough to the point that no results show up for them, and their names are still listed on the FEI site. They have membership numbers, as would you if you had completed all the necessary steps to enter a CDI.

                        In addition, I've shown the PSG multiple times, but not at a CDI, so guess what? My name is NOT on the FEI site.

                        You do know there is a whole process to a CDI, right? Horse has to be stabled in a different area of the barn, have specific vaccinations, subjected to inspections by the vet, has to go through a FEI jog before the competition begins?

                        NotGrandPrixYet
                        posted a document indicating that while registration with FEI is necessary, you can enter and ride first, and register retroactively within a period of a few weeks AFTER the ride.
                        So no, she didn’t complete the registration, what with getting shot and all.

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                        • Originally posted by Denali6298 View Post

                          Not to take up for La La, however if she was unaware of the rules for being awarded a Bronze (or any medal) I highly doubt she was aware of National vs FEI CDI’s. Maybe she was told it was an FEI CDI, maybe she just assumed.

                          I just gather from her posts and YD, that despite the show/dressage experience, there is a lack of knowledge when it comes to the rule book and when it comes to class requirements.
                          A lot of people don’t understand the difference between FEI classes and CDIs. Many incorrectly assume if someone is competing at FEI levels, that’s the same as a CDI.

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                          • Originally posted by La-LaPopRider View Post

                            She did do that. She imported a foal by the same sire as the two she wanted of mine. Or, at least she said she imported the filly. At that time, Vivaldi had just earned his elite stud book status and his foals were priced much higher than when I bought my first two by him. The mare she got ended up having serious issues. They had to make her a broodmare to try & recoup the money they spent. Although, buying foals elinares the cost of QT when importing horses.
                            Idky exactly why mb tried so hard to get this horse from me- for her. I just know she really wanted this horse & when I didn’t agree - she basically ordered mb to never train the bigger brother again. The smaller one was way too small for mb & the bigger brother they knew there was zero chance I’d ever even consider selling or “trading,” even for any horse in the barn I wanted- except for one. (This was one of the offers made for the younger brother.) Don’t get me wrong- I don’t think this was the only reason for the target on my back from her. But definitely a big contribution. There were other things going on I had no idea about until way, way later. None of them my fault. I honestly had no idea what I was walking into. I mean, I knew the divorce was happening right then, but I didn’t know much else.
                            Once I put the puzzle together, it all made sense. It was also too late to do anything about it - except wish I saw right through her from day 1. There were a lot of moving parts. Those who felt their lives were in danger when they boarded or trained there didn’t know me ....they were long gone. I only received SEVERAL apology messages from people I’ll never name - after the shooting. All of them sad I’d been shot but happy it wasn’t they at the other end of the gun barrel, bc, as they’d confided - they were in serious fear for their lives at the time.
                            Had I known the major drama taking place right under my nose- I’d have declined to take the apartment & move to nj with them. I’d have instead taken a different trainer & stayed in Fla year round. Or, just gone back to NC with the trainer I came with.
                            Originally posted by La-LaPopRider View Post


                            or maybe ...... her name isn’t a flower? Which is specifically what was stated. Though, after thinking really hard about it- I realized, I DO know someone named “Daisy.” Not that it’s relevant.
                            Originally posted by La-LaPopRider View Post

                            Like I’m gonna tell you...... I think we’ve taken enough security precautions already. Or...... are you just pissed off that there are actually SOME decent people in Wellington who don’t have time for drama or lies on BB’s or anywhere else - who also don’t care what anyone else thinks bc, they’ve had success & wish to help those willing to seek their help? It is interesting though- why do you care so much? I’m very interested in learning why you care at all who is training me? It’s a bit concerning to be honest.
                            Originally posted by La-LaPopRider View Post

                            Yeah, FEI doesn’t have me listed as an “athlete,” bc I hadn’t ridden the test yet at a show! Yet..... here I am, right on the ride list for the FEI PSG Q on one day, (along with another two tests) - no FEI the other day- just 3-3 and 4-1 and no confirmed times (yet) for the NON sweepstakes CDI or any other tests- bc my entry was very late. I did get in at the very last minute to a CDI class & another class which I didn’t really need but being there for 5 days- why not? I had no intention of riding the NON CDI FEI PSG or the CDI PSG until it was absolutely ready & given the stamp of “ok,,” by MB. I got that. Knew I would .... but only booked my AIRBNB a month out to be sure my usual cabin would be available for me & be extra sure I was prepared.
                            Since you know this show SO well...... you must also have the slew of email exchanges between show management & myself in addition to these 3 screenshots of a show you claim I wasn’t entered into. I Click image for larger version Name:	0B68606B-9BCC-4287-9649-41D7B071F933.jpeg Views:	1 Size:	10.9 KB ID:	10560528Click image for larger version Name:	E53DC9F4-C36E-44D8-951C-17E86CF6F90A.jpeg Views:	1 Size:	11.7 KB ID:	10560529 mean, I can’t share emails- (I checked) - but I can’t stop anyone else from (sort of) doxxing! These are only Friday & sundays rides - Do you think I was going to twiddle my thumbs on Thursday & Saturday - having 3 stalls, 2 tack stalls (a paddock I THINK) plus an AIRBNB booked through the following tues or weds? (As a mini vacation in Saugerties to unwind....)
                            Originally posted by La-LaPopRider View Post

                            Revenge? Immediately post here where I ever, ever, ever stated, insinuated or referred to “revenge.” When crimes are committed, we have a justice system for that. I’m riding horses and preparing for clinics. Not that it is ANY of your business.

                            The Wellington “grapevine,” can waste their time playing guessing games all they want. Pretty creepy- but IF word gets out- I will know exactly who spilled the beans. The big question is, why do YOU care? I could care less about who ANYONE else is training with. You’re at least the second person to inquire. Why? Why does who I’m training with concern you in the least, least, least? Explain.
                            Originally posted by La-LaPopRider View Post

                            Again, you lie. You & both know EXACTLY who you are. Since that’s a fact, I’ve asked you to stop harassing me & making defamatory comments. Repeatedly. You & GWE have a serious obsession issue which I feel, at this point, must be addressed. Atm, I have other, more important things to tend to- like RIDING. You should try it sometime! Btw- (and this is NOT a compliment) you’ve been mistaken for being SW on other occasions. But I see now, you’re just not involved enough in the sport to know that your kiss-ass comments on her page only embarrass yourself.
                            Also, provide an example of this “bullying,” I’m “known for,” in NC. Not taking crap for people & BULLYING them are two totally different things. Further, LS was never threatened. Post the screenshot. I know what I said. And it was all true. If JI & LS feel “threatened,” by evidence which one of them accidentally let slip - well, that might worry me, too! Don’t twist words. It’s just dumb. Now, again, do not tag me, do not quote me, do not mention me except in the privacy of your own mind- I hope I’m making myself CRYTAL clear. Same goes for GWE. The two of you can rant all you want in person together. But this harassment & cyberstalking stops now.
                            Even though some of these were already QFP, it’s interesting to see them all together. Because... wow.

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                            • Originally posted by BigMama1 View Post

                              A lot of people don’t understand the difference between FEI classes and CDIs. Many incorrectly assume if they are competing at FEI levels, that’s the same as a CDI.
                              Well yes. That’s why I said I think that’s the case with LK. I know because I groomed for people at those levels despite being mediocre at the LL, but someone new to those levels wouldn't necessarily know. Unfortunately people don’t take the time to learn and assume. It seems to me LK is content in the H/J model of Dressage training.

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                              • Originally posted by YankeeDuchess View Post


                                NotGrandPrixYet
                                posted a document indicating that while registration with FEI is necessary, you can enter and ride first, and register retroactively within a period of a few weeks AFTER the ride.
                                So no, she didn’t complete the registration, what with getting shot and all.
                                Except it’s already been pointed out that the class number in the emails is for the National CDI. NOT FEI. That had a different class number because well, it’s a different class. In fact you quoted the post explaining that. Quit arguing.

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                                • Originally posted by LiberalSnowflake View Post

                                  You don't know a Lilly? But, but, but what about your BEST FRIEND IN THE WHOLE WORLD? Shelley Albea Lilly? The one who's all over SM saying how much she loves you, and you're all over SM saying how much you love her? Maybe it's that Lilly and you just forgot?
                                  Lolololol I was waiting for this.
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                                  • Originally posted by GreenWithEnvy View Post

                                    You are an absolute train wreck. After you drop little bits of information you become pissed off when people become curious. No one gives a tinker's damn who you are training with other than morbid curiosity. YOU are the one who said the Wellington grapevine acts quickly. You are such a drama queen.

                                    Still, how about responding to the body-shaming FB post of yours? It's okay for you to post such comments on FB where many people can see, but you condemned MB for allegedly speaking to a private group about body image? Trust me, I'm sure there are many other unsavory FB posts of yours that people have a record of similar to the one I posted.
                                    Your obsession with LK, and berating her over every single post, sm activity and life choice is becoming a bit concerning at this point. Seriously, you have reached far beyond stalker status. We know youre close with MH, I doubt you are helping their case.
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                                    • Originally posted by Denali6298 View Post

                                      Not to take up for La La, however if she was unaware of the rules for being awarded a Bronze (or any medal) I highly doubt she was aware of National vs FEI CDI’s. Maybe she was told it was an FEI CDI, maybe she just assumed.

                                      I just gather from her posts and YD, that despite the show/dressage experience, there is a lack of knowledge when it comes to the rule book and when it comes to class requirements.
                                      I am well aware of the difference between a national and CDI PSG, but slag away Denali!
                                      If LK left all the show entering work up to MB, she may have believed she had been entered into the CDI PSG. Based on the rules for entering a CDI, there was no reason she was ineligible to enter, as someone had claimed, but no longer claims.
                                      Isn’t that what she is bring criticized for? That she lets the trainer set up the entire show and she just shows up to ride?
                                      She seemed to understand that her ride time would not be set in advance for the CDI class, unlike a national PSG class.
                                      She mentioned that she needed to talk to lawyers on this issue before revealing more, so perhaps the “discrepancy”, as Green called it, regarding her CDI PSG entry is related to her civil suit against Barisone, so I’m not holding my breath for further details on entered/not entered in the CDI.

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                                      • Originally posted by rothmpp View Post

                                        I hate to be the bearer of bad news - that IS the national show PSG, NOT the CDI class. The Class number for the CDI PSG is/was S1.

                                        Here is a link to the results from that show, where you can see the difference in the class numbers:

                                        http://results.horseshowoffice.com/S...?sid=54&oid=24

                                        You truly may have believed that you were entered in the CDI, but maybe you just didn't know there was a difference between the two.

                                        The BS about not showing up on the FEI site since you didn't ride - I'm not giving out their names - but I looked up two different people that I know rode CDIs a long time ago, long ago enough to the point that no results show up for them, and their names are still listed on the FEI site. They have membership numbers, as would you if you had completed all the necessary steps to enter a CDI.

                                        In addition, I've shown the PSG multiple times, but not at a CDI, so guess what? My name is NOT on the FEI site.

                                        You do know there is a whole process to a CDI, right? Horse has to be stabled in a different area of the barn, have specific vaccinations, subjected to inspections by the vet, has to go through a FEI jog before the competition begins?
                                        Lol I was waiting for this too
                                        Airborne? Oh. Yes, he can take a joke. Once. After that, the joke's on you.

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                                        • Originally posted by cutter99 View Post
                                          So we are to believe MB and MH plotted the demise of others??? And this is all for the sake of getting horses that y’all owned but would not sell to them???

                                          Huh, sounds like dressage is a very dangerous sport with an incredible shortage of good horseflesh if people are willing to kill for better horses.

                                          Do you realize how far fetched and fantastical this sounds? Now all we need is a Mafia connection since it is New Jersey!
                                          just because you don't believe it, doesn't mean it isn't true. Often, when murder or the likes happen, the story behind it is crazy unbelievable. That's how people end up making bad decisions like shooting someone, they get themselves into situations where they only see one way out.

                                          Same thing when men kill their wives instead of divorce. Any logical person would suck it up and get the divorce, but for the small percentage who decide they don't want to or cant lose anything, killing the other person is the more attractive option. More common than you would think.
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