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    https://dressageheadlines.com/articl...ns-second-year

    The CDI-am doesn’t require a FEI passport.


    ETA: USEF rulebook sucks.

    ETA: It does require the rider to be registered with the FEI, so Lauren’s name would have been listed in the FEI database/search engine. (Not the world ranking)

    Case closed.
    Last edited by alibi_18; Jan. 19, 2020, 09:57 PM.
    ~ Enjoying some guac and boxed wine at the Blue Saddle inn. ~

    Originally posted by LauraKY
    I'm sorry, but this has "eau de hoarder" smell all over it.

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    • Originally posted by YankeeDuchess View Post

      If “member of FEI” = registered with FEI, along with FEI passport for the horse, that’s easy to verify on the USEF website, no personal experience necessary.

      Perhaps the person who asserted that one needs to qualify with certain scores at a national show at PSG prior to entering a US CDI at PSG could provide a link to the relevant document.

      To me, seeing the document with the rule is more definitive than the “personal experience” of an anonymous BB poster.

      Hi yes, that was me. There are score requirements for a USEF athlete to European CDI-W/4*/3* events - not USA. I was mistaken. Sorry!

      I checked with my coach and if anyone wants to enter a CDI here in the states, you can. You just need to make sure you’re all set with your FEI registration and FEI passport. And then pay a bajillion dollars to do the actual show.

      files.usef.org/assets/1smZa7KdiYI/dressagecriteria.pdf

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      • Originally posted by YankeeDuchess View Post

        It’s not a big deal. It’s just that I really, genuinely, sincerely don’t understand the point of all the QFPing, *** if *** the person supposedly preserving the quote can go in and change the words.

        However, if QFPing is pointless, that would explain why LK herself does not QFP, but instead uses screenshots to document stuff.
        QFP isn't necessarily to prove someone said something. To me, the biggest reason for QFP is just so, should the person being quoted decide to come back and delete posts, which happens fairly often, the content of the deleted post is still saved in a quote. There is nothing more frustrating than reading a thread with responses that make no sense because the person being responded to deleted their posts.

        And being able to edit a quote, when you are responding to something, is really useful when you are trying to respond to a specific part of a long post. Then you can just quote the relevant part and delete the rest, makes it easier to follow.

        Basically, just ignore the QFP. It doesn't really have any bearing in the discussions.

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        • Originally posted by RainWeasley View Post

          QFP isn't necessarily to prove someone said something. To me, the biggest reason for QFP is just so, should the person being quoted decide to come back and delete posts, which happens fairly often, the content of the deleted post is still saved in a quote. There is nothing more frustrating than reading a thread with responses that make no sense because the person being responded to deleted their posts.

          And being able to edit a quote, when you are responding to something, is really useful when you are trying to respond to a specific part of a long post. Then you can just quote the relevant part and delete the rest, makes it easier to follow.

          Basically, just ignore the QFP. It doesn't really have any bearing in the discussions.
          That makes sense, thanks.

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          • Originally posted by alibi_18 View Post
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            https://dressageheadlines.com/articl...ns-second-year

            The CDI-am doesn’t require a FEI passport.


            ETA: USEF rulebook sucks.

            ETA: It does require the rider to be registered with the FEI, so Lauren’s name would have been listed in the FEI database/search engine. (Not the world ranking)

            Case closed.
            Not closed yet. She could still show, but would be DQ’d if she were not registered in the database shortly after competing (when they do their end of the month check):

            Edit: How do I post a screenshot here. I have the page of the ruling.
            Banter whenever you want to banter....canter whenever you want to canter.

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            • https://inside.fei.org/system/files/...ers_Horses.pdf
              Banter whenever you want to banter....canter whenever you want to canter.

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              • Originally posted by CanteringCarrot View Post

                Idk, wouldn't it be easier to just go out and buy or import a warmblood. There's a lot of them out there. Why kill someone for their horses? I mean if the horses were proven Olympic level athletes that could also clean their own stall, prepare their own feed, and turn themselves in and out. Ok. Maybe...but not really. I find it hard to believe that any horse is worth a human life (this is not saying I don't believe you, it's just totally crazy for someone to kill another person for their horses). You'd have to be a very odd and crazy person to think that.

                I really don't know if this whole thing is because of MH and her jealousy because I wasn't there, don't know all of the facts, and just don't know enough in general, but if so, wow.

                I don't know why MH would want your horses so badly? I'm not saying they're not nice (I don't know them), but that's weird. Why yours specifically?
                She did do that. She imported a foal by the same sire as the two she wanted of mine. Or, at least she said she imported the filly. At that time, Vivaldi had just earned his elite stud book status and his foals were priced much higher than when I bought my first two by him. The mare she got ended up having serious issues. They had to make her a broodmare to try & recoup the money they spent. Although, buying foals elinares the cost of QT when importing horses.
                Idky exactly why mb tried so hard to get this horse from me- for her. I just know she really wanted this horse & when I didn’t agree - she basically ordered mb to never train the bigger brother again. The smaller one was way too small for mb & the bigger brother they knew there was zero chance I’d ever even consider selling or “trading,” even for any horse in the barn I wanted- except for one. (This was one of the offers made for the younger brother.) Don’t get me wrong- I don’t think this was the only reason for the target on my back from her. But definitely a big contribution. There were other things going on I had no idea about until way, way later. None of them my fault. I honestly had no idea what I was walking into. I mean, I knew the divorce was happening right then, but I didn’t know much else.
                Once I put the puzzle together, it all made sense. It was also too late to do anything about it - except wish I saw right through her from day 1. There were a lot of moving parts. Those who felt their lives were in danger when they boarded or trained there didn’t know me ....they were long gone. I only received SEVERAL apology messages from people I’ll never name - after the shooting. All of them sad I’d been shot but happy it wasn’t they at the other end of the gun barrel, bc, as they’d confided - they were in serious fear for their lives at the time.
                Had I known the major drama taking place right under my nose- I’d have declined to take the apartment & move to nj with them. I’d have instead taken a different trainer & stayed in Fla year round. Or, just gone back to NC with the trainer I came with.
                ????????????????????

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                • Originally posted by LiberalSnowflake View Post

                  You don't know a Lilly? But, but, but what about your BEST FRIEND IN THE WHOLE WORLD? Shelley Albea Lilly? The one who's all over SM saying how much she loves you, and you're all over SM saying how much you love her? Maybe it's that Lilly and you just forgot?

                  or maybe ...... her name isn’t a flower? Which is specifically what was stated. Though, after thinking really hard about it- I realized, I DO know someone named “Daisy.” Not that it’s relevant.
                  ????????????????????

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                  • Originally posted by 2tempe View Post
                    In the midst of all this back and forth, am I the only one wondering who the TWO trainers are (that rode in the Olympics) who are now coaching her??? (end of post 992.)
                    Like I’m gonna tell you...... I think we’ve taken enough security precautions already. Or...... are you just pissed off that there are actually SOME decent people in Wellington who don’t have time for drama or lies on BB’s or anywhere else - who also don’t care what anyone else thinks bc, they’ve had success & wish to help those willing to seek their help? It is interesting though- why do you care so much? I’m very interested in learning why you care at all who is training me? It’s a bit concerning to be honest.
                    ????????????????????

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                    • Originally posted by La-LaPopRider View Post


                      or maybe ...... her name isn’t a flower? Which is specifically what was stated. Though, after thinking really hard about it- I realized, I DO know someone named “Daisy.” Not that it’s relevant.

                      Yeah, that must be it. Must be.

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                      • Originally posted by rothmpp View Post

                        Or trap all the crazy in Florida and spare the rest of the country...

                        In all seriousness, though, can someone educate me? I'm in no danger of worrying about CDI entries anytime in the foreseeable future, and I could not find any information one way or the other with a google search. Up thread or on one of the previous threads, I swear one poster said that you needed a certain amount of scores at a particular level to be eligible to enter a CDI. Can someone who has ridden in these confirm or discredit this?

                        LK doesn't show up on the CDI results in any form, scratched or not, for the show in question, and a quick search of the FEI database does not have her listed as an athlete. For comparison, I looked up someone I personally know who hasn't show in 10 years, and she is still showing up on the FEI database as an athlete.
                        Yeah, FEI doesn’t have me listed as an “athlete,” bc I hadn’t ridden the test yet at a show! Yet..... here I am, right on the ride list for the FEI PSG Q on one day, (along with another two tests) - no FEI the other day- just 3-3 and 4-1 and no confirmed times (yet) for the NON sweepstakes CDI or any other tests- bc my entry was very late. I did get in at the very last minute to a CDI class & another class which I didn’t really need but being there for 5 days- why not? I had no intention of riding the NON CDI FEI PSG or the CDI PSG until it was absolutely ready & given the stamp of “ok,,” by MB. I got that. Knew I would .... but only booked my AIRBNB a month out to be sure my usual cabin would be available for me & be extra sure I was prepared.
                        Since you know this show SO well...... you must also have the slew of email exchanges between show management & myself in addition to these 3 screenshots of a show you claim I wasn’t entered into. I Click image for larger version  Name:	0B68606B-9BCC-4287-9649-41D7B071F933.jpeg Views:	1 Size:	10.9 KB ID:	10560528Click image for larger version  Name:	E53DC9F4-C36E-44D8-951C-17E86CF6F90A.jpeg Views:	1 Size:	11.7 KB ID:	10560529 mean, I can’t share emails- (I checked) - but I can’t stop anyone else from (sort of) doxxing! These are only Friday & sundays rides - Do you think I was going to twiddle my thumbs on Thursday & Saturday - having 3 stalls, 2 tack stalls (a paddock I THINK) plus an AIRBNB booked through the following tues or weds? (As a mini vacation in Saugerties to unwind....)
                        Last edited by La-LaPopRider; Jan. 20, 2020, 02:49 AM. Reason: Problem I still can’t fix. Oh well.
                        ????????????????????

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                        • Originally posted by GreenWithEnvy View Post
                          Please, anyone, explain to me why it would make a difference if any poster is friends with LK, MB, MH, JH, RC or anyone else in this saga? Do any of their friends or acquaintances not have a right to post? Let me be very frank, I am NOT MHG. If all of the threads are read thoroughly, lots of information is thrown out that is repeated by others and then swept up to be discussed again as though it is a brand new thought. I can read a post and think, "that sounds plausible", but my second thought isn't, "well they must have inside knowledge" or "they must be so and so".

                          Like someone else posted, I also am interested in what "two BNT past Olympian trainers" could be working with LK? It couldn't be Dover for obvious reasons.....could it be Klimke? Parra? Brueckmann (again)? Bottom line, who cares other than will she be able to ride with them (physically well enough) or are they simply training her horses for her? Or is this simply another statement thrown out for reaction and questions by the rabid posters? If it is true the grapevine in Wellington is indeed that short, word will be out very soon.

                          Standard disclaimer: I do not think LK deserved to be shot. But I do think MB is a victim of his own actions caused by irrational behavior for a variety of reasons. Do I think, should he be released for any reason whatsoever, he would come looking for LK/RG to finish the job? Hell no. I suspect he would be in more danger than she would be with her desire for revenge.
                          Revenge? Immediately post here where I ever, ever, ever stated, insinuated or referred to “revenge.” When crimes are committed, we have a justice system for that. I’m riding horses and preparing for clinics. Not that it is ANY of your business.

                          The Wellington “grapevine,” can waste their time playing guessing games all they want. Pretty creepy- but IF word gets out- I will know exactly who spilled the beans. The big question is, why do YOU care? I could care less about who ANYONE else is training with. You’re at least the second person to inquire. Why? Why does who I’m training with concern you in the least, least, least? Explain.
                          ????????????????????

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                          • Originally posted by GreenWithEnvy View Post
                            Please, anyone, explain to me why it would make a difference if any poster is friends with LK, MB, MH, JH, RC or anyone else in this saga? Do any of their friends or acquaintances not have a right to post? Let me be very frank, I am NOT MHG. If all of the threads are read thoroughly, lots of information is thrown out that is repeated by others and then swept up to be discussed again as though it is a brand new thought. I can read a post and think, "that sounds plausible", but my second thought isn't, "well they must have inside knowledge" or "they must be so and so".

                            Like someone else posted, I also am interested in what "two BNT past Olympian trainers" could be working with LK? It couldn't be Dover for obvious reasons.....could it be Klimke? Parra? Brueckmann (again)? Bottom line, who cares other than will she be able to ride with them (physically well enough) or are they simply training her horses for her? Or is this simply another statement thrown out for reaction and questions by the rabid posters? If it is true the grapevine in Wellington is indeed that short, word will be out very soon.

                            Standard disclaimer: I do not think LK deserved to be shot. But I do think MB is a victim of his own actions caused by irrational behavior for a variety of reasons. Do I think, should he be released for any reason whatsoever, he would come looking for LK/RG to finish the job? Hell no. I suspect he would be in more danger than she would be with her desire for revenge.
                            QFP
                            ????????????????????

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                            • Originally posted by La-LaPopRider View Post


                              or maybe ...... her name isn’t a flower? Which is specifically what was stated. Though, after thinking really hard about it- I realized, I DO know someone named “Daisy.” Not that it’s relevant.
                              Yet you didn't mention the conversation you had with your friend did you? Nope......can't defend yourself on that one can you?

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                              • Originally posted by La-LaPopRider View Post

                                Revenge? Immediately post here where I ever, ever, ever stated, insinuated or referred to “revenge.” When crimes are committed, we have a justice system for that. I’m riding horses and preparing for clinics. Not that it is ANY of your business.

                                The Wellington “grapevine,” can waste their time playing guessing games all they want. Pretty creepy- but IF word gets out- I will know exactly who spilled the beans. The big question is, why do YOU care? I could care less about who ANYONE else is training with. You’re at least the second person to inquire. Why? Why does who I’m training with concern you in the least, least, least? Explain.
                                You are an absolute train wreck. After you drop little bits of information you become pissed off when people become curious. No one gives a tinker's damn who you are training with other than morbid curiosity. YOU are the one who said the Wellington grapevine acts quickly. You are such a drama queen.

                                Still, how about responding to the body-shaming FB post of yours? It's okay for you to post such comments on FB where many people can see, but you condemned MB for allegedly speaking to a private group about body image? Trust me, I'm sure there are many other unsavory FB posts of yours that people have a record of similar to the one I posted.

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                                • Originally posted by La-LaPopRider View Post

                                  She did do that. She imported a foal by the same sire as the two she wanted of mine. Or, at least she said she imported the filly. At that time, Vivaldi had just earned his elite stud book status and his foals were priced much higher than when I bought my first two by him. The mare she got ended up having serious issues. They had to make her a broodmare to try & recoup the money they spent. Although, buying foals elinares the cost of QT when importing horses.
                                  Idky exactly why mb tried so hard to get this horse from me- for her. I just know she really wanted this horse & when I didn’t agree - she basically ordered mb to never train the bigger brother again. The smaller one was way too small for mb & the bigger brother they knew there was zero chance I’d ever even consider selling or “trading,” even for any horse in the barn I wanted- except for one. (This was one of the offers made for the younger brother.) Don’t get me wrong- I don’t think this was the only reason for the target on my back from her. But definitely a big contribution. There were other things going on I had no idea about until way, way later. None of them my fault. I honestly had no idea what I was walking into. I mean, I knew the divorce was happening right then, but I didn’t know much else.
                                  Once I put the puzzle together, it all made sense. It was also too late to do anything about it - except wish I saw right through her from day 1. There were a lot of moving parts. Those who felt their lives were in danger when they boarded or trained there didn’t know me ....they were long gone. I only received SEVERAL apology messages from people I’ll never name - after the shooting. All of them sad I’d been shot but happy it wasn’t they at the other end of the gun barrel, bc, as they’d confided - they were in serious fear for their lives at the time.
                                  Had I known the major drama taking place right under my nose- I’d have declined to take the apartment & move to nj with them. I’d have instead taken a different trainer & stayed in Fla year round. Or, just gone back to NC with the trainer I came with.
                                  QFP

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                                  • Originally posted by GiveEmEl View Post

                                    Let's see, you've threatened LS (and through that JI) as was posted in an earlier screenshot, you're well known in NC as a bully. You threaten lawsuits left and right. Drama follow you everywhere. You apparently photographed a mountain of cat poop in a residence and then decided to post about it on RC's page (why? it had nothing to do with what she said) but apparently didn't report it to CPS, though you found it prudent to report something to SS. For some reason you decided I was someone you seem to hate in NC and went on about how I had been kicked out of several farms, and you were going to tell the owner of FR what I said and she would know who exactly was stirring up drama. (FYI: I specifically asked a moderator to remove the name of the farm, which they did.)
                                    That's all clear "behavior".
                                    Again, you lie. You & both know EXACTLY who you are. Since that’s a fact, I’ve asked you to stop harassing me & making defamatory comments. Repeatedly. You & GWE have a serious obsession issue which I feel, at this point, must be addressed. Atm, I have other, more important things to tend to- like RIDING. You should try it sometime! Btw- (and this is NOT a compliment) you’ve been mistaken for being SW on other occasions. But I see now, you’re just not involved enough in the sport to know that your kiss-ass comments on her page only embarrass yourself.
                                    Also, provide an example of this “bullying,” I’m “known for,” in NC. Not taking crap for people & BULLYING them are two totally different things. Further, LS was never threatened. Post the screenshot. I know what I said. And it was all true. If JI & LS feel “threatened,” by evidence which one of them accidentally let slip - well, that might worry me, too! Don’t twist words. It’s just dumb. Now, again, do not tag me, do not quote me, do not mention me except in the privacy of your own mind- I hope I’m making myself CRYTAL clear. Same goes for GWE. The two of you can rant all you want in person together. But this harassment & cyberstalking stops now.
                                    ????????????????????

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                                    • Originally posted by La-LaPopRider View Post


                                      or maybe ...... her name isn’t a flower? Which is specifically what was stated. Though, after thinking really hard about it- I realized, I DO know someone named “Daisy.” Not that it’s relevant.
                                      "Lilly" isn't a flower??????? Nice try. I also said 18 wheeler (a transfer truck and trailer for your benefit) rather than a 727 jet. You didn't mention that slight on my part. I wonder why?

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                                      • Originally posted by La-LaPopRider View Post

                                        Again, you lie. You & both know EXACTLY who you are. Since that’s a fact, I’ve asked you to stop harassing me & making defamatory comments. Repeatedly. You & GWE have a serious obsession issue which I feel, at this point, must be addressed. Atm, I have other, more important things to tend to- like RIDING. You should try it sometime! Btw- (and this is NOT a compliment) you’ve been mistaken for being SW on other occasions. But I see now, you’re just not involved enough in the sport to know that your kiss-ass comments on her page only embarrass yourself.
                                        Also, provide an example of this “bullying,” I’m “known for,” in NC. Not taking crap for people & BULLYING them are two totally different things. Further, LS was never threatened. Post the screenshot. I know what I said. And it was all true. If JI & LS feel “threatened,” by evidence which one of them accidentally let slip - well, that might worry me, too! Don’t twist words. It’s just dumb. Now, again, do not tag me, do not quote me, do not mention me except in the privacy of your own mind- I hope I’m making myself CRYTAL clear. Same goes for GWE. The two of you can rant all you want in person together. But this harassment & cyberstalking stops now.
                                        QFP

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                                        • Originally posted by La-LaPopRider View Post

                                          Yeah, FEI doesn’t have me listed as an “athlete,” bc I hadn’t ridden the test yet at a show! Yet..... here I am, right on the ride list for the FEI PSG Q on one day, (along with another two tests) - no FEI the other day- just 3-3 and 4-1 and no confirmed times (yet) for the NON sweepstakes CDI or any other tests- bc my entry was very late. I did get in at the very last minute to a CDI class & another class which I didn’t really need but being there for 5 days- why not? I had no intention of riding the NON CDI FEI PSG or the CDI PSG until it was absolutely ready & given the stamp of “ok,,” by MB. I got that. Knew I would .... but only booked my AIRBNB a month out to be sure my usual cabin would be available for me & be extra sure I was prepared.
                                          Since you know this show SO well...... you must also have the slew of email exchanges between show management & myself in addition to these 3 screenshots of a show you claim I wasn’t entered into. I Click image for larger version Name:	0B68606B-9BCC-4287-9649-41D7B071F933.jpeg Views:	1 Size:	10.9 KB ID:	10560528Click image for larger version Name:	E53DC9F4-C36E-44D8-951C-17E86CF6F90A.jpeg Views:	1 Size:	11.7 KB ID:	10560529 mean, I can’t share emails- (I checked) - but I can’t stop anyone else from (sort of) doxxing! These are only Friday & sundays rides - Do you think I was going to twiddle my thumbs on Thursday & Saturday - having 3 stalls, 2 tack stalls (a paddock I THINK) plus an AIRBNB booked through the following tues or weds? (As a mini vacation in Saugerties to unwind....)
                                          QFP

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