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  • LiberalSnowflake
    started a topic The Maestro Returns ...

    The Maestro Returns ...

    Someone mentioned his name in the last closed LK thread and I'd not heard of him for ages, but it appears he's back with a blog post and "This blog needs to go viral and everyone in the dressage community needs to read it, share it, and fix this eminent destruction of our sport!", so here goes ...

    https://nickperonace1.wordpress.com/...GxlfPeu8D_ndzw

  • Moderator 1
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    While we appreciate that individuals promoting themselves within the industry and soliciting discussion by posting public commentary about the sport are certainly reasonable topics for conversation, there's been ample opportunity for contribution from all sides on this latest blog post and related issues and are getting further from that topic.

    We've done a quick review of the thread and toned down some language and are closing it.

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  • angelssix
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    Originally posted by Angela Freda View Post

    Hmmm promoting himself as a dog trainer...

    Suit yourself.
    A public blog is not exactly stalking.
    I couldn't find anything.

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  • smoofox
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    Originally posted by RainWeasley View Post
    Honest question, why is it that when threads move to recipes and such that have nothing to do with horses, it's okay, but if it's something still related to the subject of the post but that doesn't involve horses, it's not okay?
    Because the odd sidetrack into recipes and dressage training tips etc. are personal input by posters - they are not part of unrelated social media stuff posted by NP ... and yes, IMO suggesting that a likely much loved family pet is being "ruined " by NP is definitely stepping over a line... or six. Big difference. Huge.

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  • trubandloki
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    I have no problem that others are reading his public blog about dogs. I have no problem that people are posting about it here.

    I still will not go to his blog, because I refuse to give him hits on his blog.

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  • Angela Freda
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    Originally posted by Dee-Vee View Post
    The reality is you can fry a dog’s brain as easily as you can a horse’s brain with training.

    I haven’t seen the videos, nor do I want to, but if they show an “anxious hot mess” that speaks volumes.
    I feel as bad for that dog as I did Celestial Lady for much the same reasons.

    Guy cluelessly bumbles along, "training" without a thought to process, or the harm he does in getting it horribly wrong.
    The horse got relatively lucky. I'm not sure there's a market for dogs after being trained to over react to a knock on the door that isn't, creating anxiety and confusion, given mixed messages about what is acceptable and isn't.

    YMMV

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  • RainWeasley
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    Honest question, why is it that when threads move to recipes and such that have nothing to do with horses, it's okay, but if it's something still related to the subject of the post but that doesn't involve horses, it's not okay?

    I don't particularly care either way, though I do think it could add more indications of the clueless crazy person being discussed. And dog training absolutely can be relevant to horse training. All animal training requires a degree of patience and skill.

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  • Dee-Vee
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    The reality is you can fry a dog’s brain as easily as you can a horse’s brain with training.

    I haven’t seen the videos, nor do I want to, but if they show an “anxious hot mess” that speaks volumes.

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  • smoofox
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    Originally posted by Angela Freda View Post

    Hmmm promoting himself as a dog trainer...

    Suit yourself.
    A public blog is not exactly stalking.
    But here on a DRESSAGE thread - it is completely irrelevant and yes, rather stalkerish. Start a thread about it in the Menagerie forum if it is of some interest for some unknown reason....

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  • skydy
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    Originally posted by Angela Freda View Post

    Hmmm promoting himself as a dog trainer...

    Suit yourself.
    A public blog is not exactly stalking.
    Oh, he is a dog trainer now? Buyer beware.

    Best post on dog forums as the dog folks may not be aware of his history.
    Last edited by skydy; Feb. 25, 2020, 10:52 PM. Reason: To Add

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  • Angela Freda
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    Originally posted by Mara View Post

    As much as I dislike NP and what he stands for, I'm going to draw the line at stalking his dog's blog. He wouldn't be the first clueless dog owner out there; as long as he's not promoting himself as a dog trainer (Dog Dressage, perhaps?) I'm sticking to the horse-related stuff. There's a limit to exactly how much I want to know of the man.
    Hmmm promoting himself as a dog trainer...

    Suit yourself.
    A public blog is not exactly stalking.

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  • skydy
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    I agree. I don't go to his social media. I don't want to know anymore than I already do about him having learned from the experiences of people on COTH.

    I think people should know about him if he is once again pretending to be a trainer, forewarned is forearmed, but dogs are irrelevant.

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  • Mara
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    Originally posted by Angela Freda View Post
    Bear with me...

    His latest video on his dogs blog...check it out

    ​​​​​​You know the scene in The Grinch where Jim Carey shouts and listens for the echo?
    I think if Maestros house had an echo, it would say the same to him about the anxious hot mess he's creating in his poor dog.
    Trainer, my eye. Poseur.
    As much as I dislike NP and what he stands for, I'm going to draw the line at stalking his dog's blog. He wouldn't be the first clueless dog owner out there; as long as he's not promoting himself as a dog trainer (Dog Dressage, perhaps?) I'm sticking to the horse-related stuff. There's a limit to exactly how much I want to know of the man.

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  • Samantha37
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    Originally posted by Angela Freda View Post
    Bear with me...

    His latest video on his dogs blog...check it out

    ​​​​​​You know the scene in The Grinch where Jim Carey shouts and listens for the echo?
    I think if Maestros house had an echo, it would say the same to him about the anxious hot mess he's creating in his poor dog.
    Trainer, my eye. Poseur.
    Link?

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  • Angela Freda
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    Bear with me...

    His latest video on his dogs blog...check it out

    ​​​​​​You know the scene in The Grinch where Jim Carey shouts and listens for the echo?
    I think if Maestros house had an echo, it would say the same to him about the anxious hot mess he's creating in his poor dog.
    Trainer, my eye. Poseur.

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  • AnotherRound
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    That's the best summary of the problem with Nick I've read in a while. Nick's bragging about carrying a gun while going after young women canvassing for democrat candidates, bragging about carrying while going into a tack shop to harrass a girl behind the counter, bragging about questioning one of his children's friends he was driving home about whehter she was a boy or a girl, and laughing about it on Facebook, asking people who did host a clinic for him if they know anyone he can hook up with while he was there and that it didn't matter if he was married, because his "wife was in a different zip code" speak to alot of reasons why he should continue to be discussed when he's making it clear he wants to seek out women to "teach" and ride their horses, and try to build reputation to "train" are all good reasons not to keep quiet about him.

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  • skydy
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    Originally posted by angelssix View Post
    The guy is clearly delusional. Why do any of you bother with him?
    I think because he hasn't given up on trying to sell himself as a "Grand Prix" dressage rider and trainer when he is clearly not. The fact that he is completely unqualified to teach, combined with his anger issues, blatant dishonesty, criminal history involving check fraud and his history of cold calling barns to try to get them to allow him to give "clinics" is a concern. He'll even beg to do one for free, so he can get pictures of your farm and say he's "taught" there. (you'll have to pay his expenses though because he can't afford to get to your place).

    Allen Buck is cut from the same cloth, minor criminal record for dishonest crimes, tendency to try to sue to make money etc... though I don't think Allen Buck claims to ride Grand Prix.

    Neither ride dressage at all well, let alone are competent to teach, nor are they people you would want around your farm.. Both seem out for easy money and were able to fool a few people, though not for long.

    I hoped they had given up, but they seem to lay low and then come back. I think it's a case of see something say something, and calling out con artists is OK in my book.

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  • mmeqcenter
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    Originally posted by Mara View Post

    Oops....sorry, Gen X'er here who failed to differentiate between a FB page and a FB group. But yes, that's the one.
    Lol no problem just wanted to make sure I was getting to the right thing

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  • Mara
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    Originally posted by AnotherRound View Post
    I'v lost track of which groups Nick is banned from, now? Is he banned from Dressage Training and Judging?
    I don't know if he's been banned or if, true to form, he deleted his posts there. There are a couple of clips of Nuno and the page participants were asked to score the movements and explain the scores. Nick's comments aren't visible, but you can tell he tried to lecture everyone and at one point told them "You can't judge Nuno because you don't know his story!" It's fairly easy to suss out what he said by the comments addressing him directly.

    Best is the person who said, "OMG, is Nick Peronace here? He's pure comedy, the worst rider ever!" Hopefully Nick didn't show up on her doorstep with his gun, but I am sure she and others got a barrage of nasty PMs.

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  • Mara
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    Originally posted by mmeqcenter View Post

    Thanks, it must just be the Page then, there is no Group that I see
    Oops....sorry, Gen X'er here who failed to differentiate between a FB page and a FB group. But yes, that's the one.

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