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    #41
    Originally posted by Angela Freda View Post

    Iirc that horse in his pic was already trained to Second, and he touted the accomplishment of showing it at like TL and then winning some year end award, ... leaving out that technically at that level, as an adult, he was his only competition... go figure.
    Someone correct me if I've muddled that, it's been a while since considering his accomplishments.
    In fairness, he's not the only one. It's really amusing how often trainers embellish their accomplishments... I've heard one who barely has a record at PSG brag about being the only FEI trainer in the state (we have a few who have been successful at GP and produced other FEI riders). I've also seen trainers showing horses two levels below what they were shown by a more experienced trainer and bragging about their scores... It's great if you want the learning experience. But don't take a 3rd level horse 1st level and brag about scoring well and winning, and take credit for it being your training. There's showing lower to FIX an issue from a different trainer, but most of us are smart enough to recognize that. Especially when multiple horses you've tried "fixing" magically develop rearing/spinning issues on centerline when you try to go above a certain level.
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      #42
      You know, I actually feel kinda sad for [edit]....there's no way one can be successful in life when they lack any objectivity about themselves, and are so insecure they feel vastly superior and find fault with those who are light years better at riding and training at the very top levels. Of course, I guess everyone may have their own definition of success too, so there's that.
      Last edited by Moderator 1; Feb. 27, 2020, 10:03 AM.
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        #43
        Originally posted by Joanne View Post
        Makes my day when Carl Hester laughs at The Maestro.
        Huh? Where? What'd I miss?!?!

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          #44
          Originally posted by 2DogsFarm View Post
          Ummmmm.......
          Am I alone in noticing his photos accompanying the articles about the elimination of CDJ & Mount St John show a rider (head sharpied out)on a Gray horse?
          MSJ is a bay

          Maestro Facts are different than those for us regular people 
          The picture is a still from CDJ’s Masterclass at the Rolex Central Park Horse Show:
          https://youtu.be/ymtcrCyYoCk

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            #45
            Originally posted by BigMama1 View Post
            I love that his “bad” photos include one of CDJ riding a horse in lovely balanced self carriage, while the “good” examples show a completely hollow-backed horse with the hind legs in a different zip code than the rest of its body. But the reins are loopy so it must be correct!

            He knows the right words to say but he clearly still doesn’t have an educated eye to see the difference between “good” and “bad” riding. And based on his own scores and videos of him riding, we know he doesn’t have the skills to ride or train either.

            Nobody likes a liar. People often ask why the Internet world gets so upset about a fairly irrelevant guy like NP. I think it’s because his repeated delusions about training horses to FEI levels, and his “poor bullied me” victim stance when judges or trainers who actually do have knowledge try to educate him, do a disservice to the real dressage trainers out there - the ones who have a proven track record of training horses and clients successfully up the levels.

            Couple that with his complete lack of self-awareness, insistence that he doesn’t need lessons or training, and certainty that judges not only know who he is but have some kind of vendetta against him and we have all the ingredients for a perfect train wreck.
            "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means..."
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              #46
              He recently added me on Facebook...I had no idea who the guy was, so I clicked "accept" (I accept all horse people...connections, ya know?) and oh boy what a character.

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                #47
                Originally posted by GiveEmEl View Post
                He recently added me on Facebook...I had no idea who the guy was, so I clicked "accept" (I accept all horse people...connections, ya know?) and oh boy what a character.
                NP like SW/DH and LK, is documented as someone who has dipped his toe into cyber harassment and I believe even IRL harassment of people over online incidents.

                Fun as it is to have folks like this in your feed for the trainwreckspotters among us I myself will not follow or friend someone like this because you can't predict when the craycray will be aimed at you. There might be some discussion on your FB newsfeed that gets under their skin and then they have your name and PM and other details. Plus they can then respond on your threads.

                I realise everybody's risk calculations are different, but my recommendation would be to quietly block or unfriend before you are on his radar.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Nous View Post

                  The picture is a still from CDJ’s Masterclass at the Rolex Central Park Horse Show:
                  https://youtu.be/ymtcrCyYoCk
                  Yes, I remember watching that (livestream?).
                  My point was: Was Maestro expecting readers to connect the dots to the E on MSJ & a single disobedient moment on a totally different horse to shame CDJ??
                  Guess my non-Maestro brain cannot make that connection...
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Scribbler View Post

                    NP like SW/DH and LK, is documented as someone who has dipped his toe into cyber harassment and I believe even IRL harassment of people over online incidents.

                    Fun as it is to have folks like this in your feed for the trainwreckspotters among us I myself will not follow or friend someone like this because you can't predict when the craycray will be aimed at you. There might be some discussion on your FB newsfeed that gets under their skin and then they have your name and PM and other details. Plus they can then respond on your threads.

                    I realise everybody's risk calculations are different, but my recommendation would be to quietly block or unfriend before you are on his radar.
                    True....NP embodies the attributes of the worst caricatures of Republicans (I am NOT making this political!!!) and he's proud of it to boot. Worse, he's quick to savage those who disagree with him.

                    Depending on what your FB reveals about you, Scribbler posts some good advice. Even if not political on FB - if you were to post video or stills of yourself riding, he'd be quick to grab those and post his (uneducated) criticisms of you on his blog or FB page if he ever felt something you did offended him.

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                      #50
                      I got into a very brief FB argument with him without realizing who he was until after the fact. I don’t recall the details, but he was ranting about a certain show being at what he felt was the “wrong” venue, saying something to the effect that the name of the venue was in the name of the competition, how dare they move it! I poked around a couple minutes and found that the show had never included the venue’s name, and answered him with a relevant link. Oddly, the post I had responded to disappeared without another word on the subject.

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                        #51
                        I am not a dressage competitor, owner, or judge. I know nothing about the writer of the blog. However, in my opinion,
                        he is absolutely correct. Your legs do look like windshield wipers and you generally look like you are water-skiing.

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                          #52
                          Well, just for giggles I went to read his silly post. And adds for toe fungus treatments kept popping up on his website.
                          Had to laugh!!

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                            #53
                            He doesn't really want us to post his movementless "piaffe" again, does he?

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                              #54
                              As I recall, HE moved a lot...

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                                #55
                                Originally posted by neigh View Post
                                I am not a dressage competitor, owner, or judge. I know nothing about the writer of the blog. However, in my opinion,
                                he is absolutely correct. Your legs do look like windshield wipers and you generally look like you are water-skiing.
                                I'm hoping you're referring to NP and not every single dressage rider on the planet.

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                                  #56
                                  Originally posted by RatWrangler View Post

                                  I'm hoping you're referring to NP and not every single dressage rider on the planet.
                                  Nah. IMO when NP rides he looks like he's sitting in a chair, struggling to get a too-tight pair of pants buttoned.

                                  Also just my opinion, but when a rando turns up to sh*t talk an entire equestrian sport with sweeping generalizations borrowed from the meat man, it's probably not worth your time to respond.

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                                    #57
                                    Originally posted by x-halt-salute View Post

                                    Nah. IMO when NP rides he looks like he's sitting in a chair, struggling to get a too-tight pair of pants buttoned.

                                    Also just my opinion, but when a rando turns up to sh*t talk an entire equestrian sport with sweeping generalizations borrowed from the meat man, it's probably not worth your time to respond.
                                    Yes, this.


                                    It's like when Rollkur was a "thing" and OMG dressage is so terrible! But not every dressage rider practices or supports Rollkur.

                                    But please, anyone who has no experience with the sport, feel free to weigh in with generalizations. Such value there.

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                                      #58
                                      Originally posted by x-halt-salute View Post

                                      Nah. Even Google knows the difference between "nerves" and "unnerves", "imminent" and "eminent", "out burst" and "outburst"!

                                      My favorite hot take was, "Dressage should make the horse easier to ride. The most novice of beginners should be able to ride him without fear of being thrown off."

                                      Yup. That's what we're all aiming for. Kill the impulsion dead so that the rankest beginner doesn't have to worry about being able to sit the motion, and reduce the complex communication of aids to kick and pull so even the most novice can figure it out. It sounds like Carpathia's eventual decision to lawn dart him has made its mark on his training philosophy. If he wants beginners to be able to swing a leg over and go, he might have more luck with bicycles than half-ton athletic animals with incredible sensitivity to their riders' aids.
                                      That line about the horse being easier to ride blew my mind, a trained horse is harder to ride if you don't have the basic foundation on how to use you seat etc. I struggled when I started dressage because I bought a schoolmaster. I needed to learn how to use my body totally differently that I did on hunters. So seriously, a rank beginner will not know how to get a trained horse on the bit....that must be why he struggled and got stuck in the corner. LOL
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                                        #59
                                        Originally posted by Bogey2 View Post

                                        That line about the horse being easier to ride blew my mind, a trained horse is harder to ride if you don't have the basic foundation on how to use you seat etc. I struggled when I started dressage because I bought a schoolmaster. I needed to learn how to use my body totally differently that I did on hunters. So seriously, a rank beginner will not know how to get a trained horse on the bit....that must be why he struggled and got stuck in the corner. LOL
                                        Yup

                                        I once rode a very highly trained jumper - it mostly went ok until he started changing leads every two strides and I had no idea why or what I was doing or how to stop it. I also nearly killed myself riding a well trained cutting horse when I was a kid. Me losing my balance, even slightly, on both horses was read as a cue by them, much to my delight and dismay.
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                                          #60
                                          Originally posted by MyssMyst View Post

                                          In fairness, he's not the only one. It's really amusing how often trainers embellish their accomplishments... I've heard one who barely has a record at PSG brag about being the only FEI trainer in the state (we have a few who have been successful at GP and produced other FEI riders). I've also seen trainers showing horses two levels below what they were shown by a more experienced trainer and bragging about their scores... It's great if you want the learning experience. But don't take a 3rd level horse 1st level and brag about scoring well and winning, and take credit for it being your training. There's showing lower to FIX an issue from a different trainer, but most of us are smart enough to recognize that. Especially when multiple horses you've tried "fixing" magically develop rearing/spinning issues on centerline when you try to go above a certain level.
                                          so true, I saw someone advertising a mare as a 3* eventer, record shows one 1* and they were eliminated....why do people lie when the facts are so easy to find.
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