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  • Dressage saddle knee rolls

    Can the thick knees rolls be flattened a bit? As in taking some of the "stuffing" out? Not by me, but by a saddle repair person.

    Knee rolls like this:
    https://www.kieffer.net/en/saddles/d...9-florenz.html

    I found a used dressage saddle that fits my horse very well (and my price range), but I can't stand the knee rolls. I'm using the saddle for trail riding and I've been having a hard time finding a saddle that fits her.

    Thanks!
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    They aren't knee rolls, they are thigh blocks. Typically a fitter can exchange blocks for rolls, but it depends on brand or if it's an independent fitter.
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      #3
      Originally posted by netg View Post
      They aren't knee rolls, they are thigh blocks. Typically a fitter can exchange blocks for rolls, but it depends on brand or if it's an independent fitter.
      I thought they were called thigh blocks, but the description on the link said knee rolls so I assumed I was wrong.

      Saddle is on trial for a couple more days so I'll try the local saddle repair guy. He's always busy so I haven't had a chance to talk to him.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Malda View Post

        I thought they were called thigh blocks, but the description on the link said knee rolls so I assumed I was wrong.

        Saddle is on trial for a couple more days so I'll try the local saddle repair guy. He's always busy so I haven't had a chance to talk to him.
        Probably just wrong terminology since it's a used saddle! Difference of course being your leg isn't supposed to go over a block, and it's supposed to be along your thigh rather than knee.

        I'm going to be getting a new saddle for my youngster and talking to the fitter about doing knee pads or no block at all instead of thigh blocks, because I suspect as my girl's movement grows any block will get in my way at some point. My older mare isn't as big a mover and there are no problems with me being blocked by blocks on her.
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        • #5
          That particular saddle looks like the flaps are moulded to the blocks, so it would probably look funky if you took out foam or changed them for smaller blocks. In other saddles, you can get a larger block taken off and replaced with a smaller block. However, your leg should stay behind the block, so it's width shouldn't matter much. If your knee is popping forward onto that block, you either need to train your leg to stay more back, or find a saddle with a forward flap.

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            Originally posted by outerbanks77 View Post
            That particular saddle looks like the flaps are moulded to the blocks, so it would probably look funky if you took out foam or changed them for smaller blocks. In other saddles, you can get a larger block taken off and replaced with a smaller block. However, your leg should stay behind the block, so it's width shouldn't matter much. If your knee is popping forward onto that block, you either need to train your leg to stay more back, or find a saddle with a forward flap.
            That's right. There is a shaped block of foam inside that leather.

            IMO, the only option is to have a very good saddle maker take off that whole section of the flap (the leather sandwich around the foam) and rebuild it with the hunk of foam in there that you want. Again, I wouldn't do this or buy a saddle with this plan until I had spoken eyeball-to-eyeball with the saddler who was sure he or she could do the job and had quoted you a price. I can think of a couple of people who I'd ask, if you want names.
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            • #7
              I agree that as the knee rolls ( makers term) are formed into the flap the result might look odd and a bit deflated balloon like. However, you say this saddle is only for trail riding and appearance may not be a factor for you. It would not alter how the saddle fits your horse.


              As much as I like a Kieffer, and I like this saddle a lot, I might look more.

              If the roll was built up with flocking, the saddler might be able to unstuff a little to soften, but most of them are solid core, Im afraid no result would look well.

              It might be that a smaller one that can be inserted? Even if by another maker it might be a happier compromise. Not sure your access to a saddle fitter / repair place. They might know, right off the bat, if you ask and send pictures, how doable it is to get into the pocket and remove the insert.
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              • #8
                I would think that they are going to have to replace the block. I would make sure you know the cost before buying a used saddle. It might not be worth it.
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                • #9
                  The short answer is "yes". BUT - it is going to be expensive. I looked into doing it on a different saddle, several years ago, and the price quoted was $700! to take off the molded leather, carve down the knee roll, and stitch on new molded leather - a major undertaking... You can also have the entire flap replaced (thigh block and all) on most saddles, but again, it is not a cheap fix.

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                  • #10
                    I’ll echo the earlier posters who said it may not be worth the money to do it.

                    I looked into swapping the blocks on a saddle I otherwise loved and was quoted $800. It wasn’t worth it for me and I found something else that worked.

                    Good luck!

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                      #11
                      Thanks for the replies.

                      The link I posted isn't the actual saddle model, it was just to clarify what I was talking about (sorry for the confusion).

                      The saddle is $700, so if it's 700-800 to fix, it might be worth it. I rode for an hour and a half today in the hills. Horse was happy and the saddle never slipped. I've had my horse for two years now and still trying to find a saddle that works for both of us.

                      The thigh blocks are just too much for me, my knees became sore at the end. I have an English Baretek bareback pad that I pared the thigh blocks down about 2/3. Feels much better now.

                      I have the saddle on trial for a week so I'm looking forward to another nice trail ride tomorrow.
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                      • #12
                        Well, it would help to see the actual saddle in question Something you might be able to do is get the blocks taken off completely, and then add velcro and get movable blocks like Wintec and some other brands have

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