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  • Originally posted by NotGrandPrixYet View Post

    I said it’s pretty apparent...as in EVIDENCE. I DIDN’t say “I know”.

    I’m super-done with you and your superiority-savior complex.
    Your condescending remark about my reading comprehension pissed me off.

    ETA. You also gratuitously stated that “The majority of bright people” would read it with your interpretation rather than mine. And you’re accusing me of having a superiority complex?
    Last edited by YankeeDuchess; Dec. 29, 2019, 01:49 PM.

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    • Originally posted by YankeeDuchess View Post

      So did you understand my point in the last post to the effect that I am not taking a position on the likability or non-likability of LK? I said I don’t know the woman, and I’m not judging her based on the crap posted here about her. She is a mere abstraction of a shooting victim as far as I am concerned. I would hope that I would intervene to push back on the taunting, insults, and half truths that I have seen you (general) lob, regardless of the identity of the target. I would hope I would push back at this appalling behavior, as long as the target was “not as bad or worse than Hitler”. If I need to explain the reference to Hitler, this was a dramatic way of saying I hope I would take posters like you to task for this disgusting behavior, regardless of who the target is, likable or unlikable, rich or poor, fat or thin, lower level or FEI rider, etc., given that it is basically unimaginable that anyone could “be worse than Hitler.” I am not here because I am pro-LK. I am anti cyber lynch mob. There is a difference.

      Since I am not an alter for LK, I have no way of knowing why she has chosen not to answer your question as to her assessment of her role in the tragedy. But if I put myself in her shoes, I, myself would think I did not owe any explanation to you lot. As you perfectly well know, asking her to opine on her assessment of her role in the sequence of events, and “take responsibility for it”, is you (specifically and generally) blaming her for the shooting/prison sentence. It is blazingly obvious that each side could have, and should have, avoided tragedy by backing down before MB shot her twice in the chest at point blank range. Why do you think she owes it you to say it?

      We (aspirational) duchesses do not drink boxed wine. I only drink bottled red (no screw caps) from a wine glass (no plastic). Furthermore, we (aspirational) duchesses do not “spew” wine, regardless of the provocation.
      Ok, I just want to say whether or not a bottle of wine has a screw cap does not reflect the actual quality of the wine. I don't know if you are suggesting this, but it just reminded me of when my DH would only drink wine that had a cork. So one day we are in the Mosel Valley (Germany - much wine) and I bring this up in one of the vinotek's, and I guess screw caps are just becoming more popular or commonly used than corks. So maybe one day you can open your heart to screw caps I thought it looked and felt cheaper initially, but one of my favorite wines is a screw cap - eek! Then again, I am but a mere pleb, and I prefer white wines.

      Of course, as an aspiring duchess you are free to exercise your preferences.

      Can't say I've ever had boxed wine, but I do find the term Cardbordeaux to be clever and amusing.

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      • Originally posted by ladyj79 View Post
        I paid a lot of parking tickets while living in a major US city that wouldn't sell me a parking permit for the area in which I lived, but would sell me one for an area where I didn't live, on the other side of an interstate. So I just kept parking "illegally", or rather overstaying the two hour guest limit on the street that I lived. I could only move my car so often--I was and remain a shite parallel parker.

        When I get shot, and I'm pretty insufferable so that's probably going to happen, I hope those are used as evidence of my lawlessness and reckless behaviour.

        Basically me

        https://youtu.be/tf4TIWECZ30
        Ok, that video, poor souls.

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        • Originally posted by La-LaPopRider View Post

          Actually, I said I was preparing to go to Welly. If your implying I will or SHOULD have bad rides/scores at ANY show grounds in Wellington - USEF should be very interested in your post, your identity and your purpose for participating in a sport you should very clearly not be allowed to continue.
          Huh?

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          • Originally posted by ladyj79 View Post
            so in this thread alone

            I've been "accused" of being lk.
            Denali is lk.
            Yankee Duchess is lk.

            did I miss anyone?

            man if I'm lk, and Denali is lk, then who am I pming?

            no but seriously, it's fairly clear that accusing everyone of being an alter for lk is nonsense.
            Hold the phone! I’m an alter for LK AND I’ve been having a conversation with myself through PMs? That explains so much. Like the disagreements I had with myself on the GHM thread!

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            • Originally posted by La-LaPopRider View Post
              Pretty ridiculous to ask what I thought the “outcome,” would be of getting shot to death. The better question is (and will be) what MB thought the outcome would be of trying to murder two people. He did not “snap.” Unless you consider “snapping,” to be a carefully constructed plan which he carried out exactly as planned- with the exception of two things. 1.) I survived. 2.) He missed RGs head & instead of trying to run faster than bullets- he took the almost insanely brave option of subduing MB. Guess MB didn’t realize RG was Marine.

              There are a few other things he didn’t realize as well. Or, he didn’t think he’d have to worry about some of them, bc we’d both be dead. Aka- dismantling cameras. Wonder what his plans were for our bodies. Now THAT is a scary thought. Not only plans to kill us- but well thought out enough to decide how to dispose of our bodies as well....... Scary. Now I understand why so many people WHO KNOW HIM WELL are terrified he may one day get out of prison. Quite certain their stories will be 100% admissible.
              I am not making light of the fact that you got shot.

              I am pointing out that in the above you have presumed that there was an intent to murder. Is proving that intent not part of what will be addressed in court?

              The presence of the gun and the reasons for it to be at the scene will most likely constitute a pivotal point on which this case will turn. In advance of court proceedings, no one truly can prove whether murder was or was not the intent in this case. No one truly has that degree of definitive insight into the mind of another. I think that concept is well recognized in a court of law and why it is tested.

              In fact if what you say is true in respect of dismantling cameras and disposing of bodies, it shows the opposite. There was no plan. What it shows to me is a scene where a gun was present and something went horribly wrong, and unexpectedly.

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              • Oh Dear Gawd. YankeeDutchess, you were correct about my timing.

                LaLa, beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, BEETLEJUICE!

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                • Originally posted by YankeeDuchess View Post

                  If you are gearing up to post that I am deserving of hate as a “well documented LIAR!!!”, perhaps I should disclose:

                  I am not an actual Duchess.

                  The choice of screen name is not descriptive, but rather aspirational. I aspire to be a Duchess. The landed estate. The weekend house parties. The clothes. The horses.

                  And not merely a modern duchess like Kate or Camilla. I aspire to be an eighteenth century duchess.

                  Why YankeeDuchess? Well, I’m American not British, and, more importantly, just plain “Duchess” was taken. Naturally, I assume the COTHer “Duchess” is the real deal.

                  Why aspire to be an eighteenth century duchess? Makes my aspirations to compete at Grand Prix look eminently plausible by comparison.

                  I would hate being an eighteenth century duchess. No indoor plumbing. No electricity, central air conditioning, or gas heat. Have to wear long cumbersome dresses all the time, with corsets. And even if you were allowed to wear pants, jeans and shorts haven't been invented yet. Unless you're a German duchess, and even then lederhosen are mens' wear only.

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                  • Originally posted by Mara View Post

                    I would hate being an eighteenth century duchess. No indoor plumbing. No electricity, central air conditioning, or gas heat. Have to wear long cumbersome dresses all the time, with corsets. And even if you were allowed to wear pants, jeans and shorts haven't been invented yet. Unless you're a German duchess, and even then lederhosen are mens' wear only.
                    Not to mention the whole riding habit thing. Few have the sidesaddle chops to simultaneously entertain aspirations of Grand Prix dressage and becoming 18th century royalty!

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                    • Originally posted by x-halt-salute View Post

                      Not to mention the whole riding habit thing. Few have the sidesaddle chops to simultaneously entertain aspirations of Grand Prix dressage and becoming 18th century royalty!
                      I do not ride aside in my current existence, but of course would ride aside expertly as an eighteenth century duchess. But you’re right, only cavalry officers competed in dressage. My riding would be joining the hunt and hacking in the park.

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                      • This thread keeps bouncing from one LaLaLand to another!

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                        • Originally posted by BigMama1 View Post

                          Huh?


                          LK thinks GreenWithEnvy is SW, if that helps.

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                          • Originally posted by YankeeDuchess View Post



                            LK thinks GreenWithEnvy is SW, if that helps.
                            Nothing could be further from the truth. SW and LK live in worlds way above the normal person.

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                            • So they think...

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                              • Originally posted by YankeeDuchess View Post

                                If LK is sufficiently recovered to show in Wellie this winter, what does it mean to say “That will be an interesting first centerline for sure”, GreenWithEnvy ? I honestly don’t know how to process that statement.
                                You didn't quote the entire comment: "It truly is not important if LK has one alter or two hundred alters. She must keep her presence and story alive. As she has mentioned, she will be making a 2020 debut in "Wellie" fairly soon. That will be a very interesting first centerline for sure." The point being LK will probably make sure people know she is showing again because she continues to post on SM. I doubt MH will be telling anyone when or if she is showing and the event will go by with none the wiser. Point being, LK is the primary one keeping the story alive and causing so many to continue posting. SHE makes the interest.

                                Hell, if I had been shot twice point blank and was able to enter a ring within a year of the incident, it would be a triumph regardless of the score!! And, you can bet there would be people watching to see if I fell off or completed the test. That's what people do!!!

                                Why does everything have to be negative???

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                                • Originally posted by GreenWithEnvy View Post

                                  Nothing could be further from the truth. SW and LK live in worlds way above the normal person.


                                  Nevertheless, LK’s post is better understood with the information that she wrote it with the belief, right or wrong, that she thinks you are SW.

                                  GreenWithEnvy
                                  you have rather bizarrely clung to the accusation that I am an alter for LK, to the point of saying that LK would have gone to the effort of creating me as an alter 5 weeks prior to her shooting, and wasting many hours on two other threads to build up a distinct persona for the alter before bringing it over here in midDecember.
                                  That is just plain wacko.
                                  LK would need to be something of a genius to post as YankeeDuchess in a completely different writing style and voice than she uses for her non anonymous account.

                                  Your denial had the effect of increasing the probability, in my mind, that you actually are SW. Not that I know for sure.


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                                  • Originally posted by Dee-Vee View Post

                                    I am not making light of the fact that you got shot.

                                    I am pointing out that in the above you have presumed that there was an intent to murder. Is proving that intent not part of what will be addressed in court?

                                    The presence of the gun and the reasons for it to be at the scene will most likely constitute a pivotal point on which this case will turn. In advance of court proceedings, no one truly can prove whether murder was or was not the intent in this case. No one truly has that degree of definitive insight into the mind of another. I think that concept is well recognized in a court of law and why it is tested.

                                    In fact if what you say is true in respect of dismantling cameras and disposing of bodies, it shows the opposite. There was no plan. What it shows to me is a scene where a gun was present and something went horribly wrong, and unexpectedly.
                                    After talking to that guy over Christmas about the "intent of murder", this is what interests me about this about this case.

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                                    • Has there been a date set for the trial? Maybe LK knows?

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                                      • Originally posted by GreenWithEnvy View Post

                                        You didn't quote the entire comment: "It truly is not important if LK has one alter or two hundred alters. She must keep her presence and story alive. As she has mentioned, she will be making a 2020 debut in "Wellie" fairly soon. That will be a very interesting first centerline for sure." The point being LK will probably make sure people know she is showing again because she continues to post on SM. I doubt MH will be telling anyone when or if she is showing and the event will go by with none the wiser. Point being, LK is the primary one keeping the story alive and causing so many to continue posting. SHE makes the interest.

                                        Hell, if I had been shot twice point blank and was able to enter a ring within a year of the incident, it would be a triumph regardless of the score!! And, you can bet there would be people watching to see if I fell off or completed the test. That's what people do!!!

                                        Why does everything have to be negative???


                                        So your clarification is that you’re dumping on LK because you anticipate she will share on SM that she is competing again after surviving being shot, twice, at point blank range by her own trainer?

                                        Of all the drivel posted on FB such a post would be in the top .01% of being newsworthy.

                                        Sick, wacko people would be watching to see “if she fell off or completed the test”. My bad for asking for clarification.

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                                        • Originally posted by Mara View Post

                                          I would hate being an eighteenth century duchess. No indoor plumbing. No electricity, central air conditioning, or gas heat. Have to wear long cumbersome dresses all the time, with corsets. And even if you were allowed to wear pants, jeans and shorts haven't been invented yet. Unless you're a German duchess, and even then lederhosen are mens' wear only.
                                          Not to mention penicillin and birth control.
                                          *****
                                          You will not rise to the occasion, you will default to your level of training.

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