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Longeing cavessons - what have you got and how do you like it?

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  • Longeing cavessons - what have you got and how do you like it?

    It's time to replace my crappy one with something decent. Leather is a must. Not too padded is a must. Centre ring is a must. Side rings are not strictly necessary. Sturdy is an absolute must. Kind (no exposed chain or rope) but effective (not *too* padded nor too wide) are also musts.

    What have you got? Where did you buy it? How is it wearing? Can you stop a small single-engine freight train with it? (I kid ... mostly)

    TIA!
    Ahhhh, spring is here. The birds are singing, the trees are budding and the paddocks are making their annual transformation from cake mix to cookie dough.

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    I have serratas with solid noses ordered from QCV. I liked the horse sized one so well I ordered another in cob. They make them to order, so it takes a little longer, but you can get custom measurements and your choice of rings, padding and buckles. They are really well made; I expect them to last for decades.

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      When I was looking, everything was way too big and ridiculously over-padded for my 15.1 mustang’s head. Then I found this option: https://www.comfyhorse.co.uk/product...tyle-cavesson/ I really like it and it seems to be holding up just fine. Mo is quite an energy conservationist, so I’m not sure about its effectiveness in stopping your freight train, though.

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        #4
        Thank you both!

        I was looking at this https://www.kieffer.net/en/accessori...n-perfect.html because I can order in Canada and have it in just a couple of weeks and have someone else deal with the Customs nonsense, but I'm not sold on chrome fittings. I buy chrome snaps for crossties so they will break if necessary. I don't really need my longe line or driving lines ever breaking away from a cavesson, tyvm.

        So, I'm thinking on the one KJT posted due to the stainless steel fittings.
        Ahhhh, spring is here. The birds are singing, the trees are budding and the paddocks are making their annual transformation from cake mix to cookie dough.

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          Originally posted by sascha View Post
          Thank you both!

          I was looking at this https://www.kieffer.net/en/accessori...n-perfect.html because I can order in Canada and have it in just a couple of weeks and have someone else deal with the Customs nonsense, but I'm not sold on chrome fittings. I buy chrome snaps for crossties so they will break if necessary. I don't really need my longe line or driving lines ever breaking away from a cavesson, tyvm.

          So, I'm thinking on the one KJT posted due to the stainless steel fittings.
          I like this Keiffer one! Saving it for if and when I ever need to replace mine!

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          • #6
            I have a Portuguese caveson from Manolo Mandez (sp?) and I LOVE it. Streamline, sensitive. Great quality.

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            • #7
              I searched and searched for one like SRS used and finally found one made by Irish Saddlery- shipped from Ireland and
              all for less than $100.
              It has the straps in the right places, so the eyes aren't endangered, beautiful leather and hardware and works magnificently.
              "There is no fundamental difference between man and animals in their ability to feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery." - Charles Darwin

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                Originally posted by Marla 100 View Post
                I searched and searched for one like SRS used and finally found one made by Irish Saddlery- shipped from Ireland and
                all for less than $100.
                It has the straps in the right places, so the eyes aren't endangered, beautiful leather and hardware and works magnificently.
                Link?
                Ahhhh, spring is here. The birds are singing, the trees are budding and the paddocks are making their annual transformation from cake mix to cookie dough.

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                  Originally posted by sascha View Post
                  Thank you both!

                  I was looking at this https://www.kieffer.net/en/accessori...n-perfect.html because I can order in Canada and have it in just a couple of weeks and have someone else deal with the Customs nonsense, but I'm not sold on chrome fittings. I buy chrome snaps for crossties so they will break if necessary. I don't really need my longe line or driving lines ever breaking away from a cavesson, tyvm.

                  So, I'm thinking on the one KJT posted due to the stainless steel fittings.
                  Looking at your Kiefer, and comparing it to my ancient but well loved Wels (identical to the cavesson at SRS ) I'd say the Kieffer is too fine a leather, and who needs chrome when you can get stainless or brass. I want a cavesson that will stand up to naughty youngsters, as well as mannerly oldsters.

                  Some riders change their horse, they change their saddle, they change their teacher; they never change themselves.

                  Remember the horse does all the work, we just sit there and look pretty.

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                    Originally posted by merrygoround View Post

                    Looking at your Kiefer, and comparing it to my ancient but well loved Wels (identical to the cavesson at SRS ) I'd say the Kieffer is too fine a leather, and who needs chrome when you can get stainless or brass. I want a cavesson that will stand up to naughty youngsters, as well as mannerly oldsters.
                    Can you post a picture of yours?

                    I'm not keen on brass. I buy brass snaps for crossties when I can't get chrome because they will break just as easily
                    Ahhhh, spring is here. The birds are singing, the trees are budding and the paddocks are making their annual transformation from cake mix to cookie dough.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by merrygoround View Post

                      Looking at your Kiefer, and comparing it to my ancient but well loved Wels (identical to the cavesson at SRS ) I'd say the Kieffer is too fine a leather, and who needs chrome when you can get stainless or brass. I want a cavesson that will stand up to naughty youngsters, as well as mannerly oldsters.
                      Also $30-40 Euro more than the comparable QCV model customized with your choice of leather and buckles.
                      The Portuguese lunging cavesson Alta Escola with leather covered noseiron

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by outerbanks77 View Post

                        Also $30-40 Euro more than the comparable QCV model customized with your choice of leather and buckles.
                        Again, not very sturdy looking.
                        Some riders change their horse, they change their saddle, they change their teacher; they never change themselves.

                        Remember the horse does all the work, we just sit there and look pretty.

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                        • #13
                          They're very sturdy. I have 2 of them.

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                            Originally posted by merrygoround View Post

                            my ancient but well loved Wels (identical to the cavesson at SRS ) ... I want a cavesson that will stand up to naughty youngsters, as well as mannerly oldsters.
                            Can you please post a picture or maybe send me a picture in a PM? Thanks!
                            Ahhhh, spring is here. The birds are singing, the trees are budding and the paddocks are making their annual transformation from cake mix to cookie dough.

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                            • #15
                              I have this leather one by Shires which fits quite snug. I can not remember where I bought it over 5 years ago.
                              Libby

                              There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". - Dave Barry

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                                Silly question but do you run a bit hanger around the outside, underneath the cavesson, or are there after market straps that let you hook the bit directly to the cavesson?

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by GraceLikeRain View Post
                                  Silly question but do you run a bit hanger around the outside, underneath the cavesson, or are there after market straps that let you hook the bit directly to the cavesson?
                                  I put a regular bridle under the cavesson. I've never used bit hangers. Super nice for doing in hand work or longeing before riding. Cavesson comes off and you're good to go.
                                  Ahhhh, spring is here. The birds are singing, the trees are budding and the paddocks are making their annual transformation from cake mix to cookie dough.

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                                    Originally posted by GraceLikeRain View Post
                                    Silly question but do you run a bit hanger around the outside, underneath the cavesson, or are there after market straps that let you hook the bit directly to the cavesson?
                                    When my guy was a baby we would put a bit hanger and bit under the cavesson when we lunged him. The bit was just there to let him get used to having it in his mouth. The lunge line was attached to the cavesson.

                                    But now if I am going to lunge with the cavesson I skip the bridle completely.
                                    "So relax! Let's have some fun out here! This game's fun, OK? Fun goddamnit." Crash Davis; Bull Durham

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                                      Originally posted by MissAriel View Post

                                      But now if I am going to lunge with the cavesson I skip the bridle completely.
                                      Where do you attach the side reins if you're not using a bridle at all?
                                      Ahhhh, spring is here. The birds are singing, the trees are budding and the paddocks are making their annual transformation from cake mix to cookie dough.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by sascha View Post

                                        Where do you attach the side reins if you're not using a bridle at all?
                                        I don't use side reins with the cavesson. We don't do much lunging to begin with, but I either use just the cavesson, or if I want to work in side reins, I will just use the bridle and attach the lunge line through the bit rings.
                                        "So relax! Let's have some fun out here! This game's fun, OK? Fun goddamnit." Crash Davis; Bull Durham

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