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  • #21
    My young boy:

    Looking Ready aka Louie (More Than Ready-sire)
    4 year old OTTB
    15.3
    Adopted March 2019

    Louie and I are taking things slow. I started riding him in mid May (he was W/T/C @ his New Vocations facility). I have been teaching him about the inside leg and stretching into the contact. He is extremely smart and has a great brain in his little head. I only recently started to work on his canter. He is game for anything.

    The attach ache photo is from late summer.


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    • #22
      Originally posted by kashmere View Post
      PonyFixer Did you buy directly from Ruth, who stands Schwarzenegger? Love her farm and horses - and love to see our Atlantic Canada horses out in the world doing so well! Your guy is lovely.
      kashmere I did not--he was bred by Ken Mellish and was still living at his farm, but had been purchased by someone who then needed to sell him due to change in life circumstance. I bought him sight unseen based on the recommendations of my old coach and Ken's daughter (who is also a friend). I had never heard of Schwarzenegger before this horse but based on everything I've now read, as well as some of his other get I have seen, I am not sure why he is not more popular. Thank you so much for the compliment, I also think he is lovely!
      From now on, ponyfixer, i'll include foot note references.

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      • #23
        I’ll add my baby.
        30 months old
        16hh
        Irish Draught colt

        We’re doing ground work with the idea of backing him lightly this fall while he’s still small. He’ll likely finish at/over 17hh and these are big, powerful horses so I want to introduce the idea of riding before I dump him back out to grow. He’s a lovely mover, especially for the breed, so I’m looking forward to promoting him in the dressage ring!

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Heinz 57 View Post
          ​​​​​Is there room for an off-breed short stack in here?
          Absolutely. Never apologize for your horse. He's adorable.

          My first dressage horse was ¼ Clydesdale--we went to Devon (Materiale) and placed.
          My second dressage horse was an unpapered KWPN/Morgan cross that looked like homemade sin--I got my bronze.
          My current FEI partner is a Hungarian and only 15.1--I got my silver and half way to gold (and 6 one tempis today!!).
          My youngster is the first "bona fide" dressage purpose bred horse.

          Correct training (his) and correct attitude and coaching (yours) will take you to a bronze. No question. You may not get world-beating scores, but correct training will accomplish your goal. Good luck and I look forward to updates.

          Edited to add: I am not saying the above to toot my horn or horses. I am a (just barely above average) amateur rider. I aim for 5 days a week of riding, but seriously have to admit it's usually 4. I have a shoe string budget that goes mostly to lessons. I feel like if I can do it, anyone can.
          Last edited by Pony Fixer; Oct. 29, 2019, 07:04 PM.
          From now on, ponyfixer, i'll include foot note references.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Pony Fixer View Post

            Absolutely. Never apologize for your horse. He's adorable.

            My first dressage horse was ¼ Clydesdale--we went to Devon (Materiale) and placed.
            My second dressage horse was an unpapered KWPN/Morgan cross that looked like homemade sin--I got my bronze.
            My current FEI partner is a Hungarian and only 15.1--I got my silver and half way to gold (and 6 one tempis today!!).
            My youngster is the first "bona fide" dressage purpose bred horse.

            Correct training (his) and correct attitude and coaching (yours) will take you to a bronze. No question. You may not get world-beating scores, but correct training will accomplish your goal. Good luck and I look forward to updates.
            Thank you! I bought him for his temperament and haven't regretted it one bit - not too many horses I'd start in a bareback pad, let alone in my unfenced outdoor arena. I spent a long time focused on eventing and though I've shown successfully through First, it's been a LONG time since I've done any competing. I'm not in a rush, so we've spent this summer focusing on correct foundations and building fitness walk/trot. Slow and steady will help him win the race. We're just here to have fun.

            Once we get over the next few hurdles - namely saddles and winter arena footing issues - I think he will progress faster. He's a good egg!

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            • #26
              I'll play!

              After decades of OTTB's, Warmbloods and once even a Lusitano Stallion (my best horse ever), I now have a pinto.

              Was spending 2 weeks training my BWP at trainer's farm and noticed this mare. Her mind is what I fell for.

              6YO
              Reg. Pinto (half foundation QH, half Hackney horse)
              15.3

              Sold my BWP, bought this mare and hauled her down. She was so smart during the 3 day haul that immediately I knew I had made the right decision.
              I've spent the last several months just working her in hand, on the lunge and 2 days a week in the arena. The rest of the days we ride out either on the road and tracks around the farm or in the desert doing hills and different terrain. She has slowly put muscle on and her balance and gaits have improved.
              She is forward, brave and willing. Luv this mare...

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              • #27
                This thread is 100% relevant to my interests. Enjoying seeing some of the breeding too, I love Alabaster in a pedigree.

                18 month old hanoverian filly
                Her sire is a Romanov son, and she's out of a Gold Luck mare (and an Argentan son is the damsire).
                Currently measuring around 15'2ish though she hasn't been sticked in six months so I'm wildly uncertain on that. Hoping she ends up tall (sire is 172cm, dam is 174/175, so the genetics are there) but as it is, she's going to have a heavier build like her dam so will take up my leg well either way - I'm not too concerned.

                The goal is to get my medals on her (bronze and silver, really - anything above PSG would just be icing on the top of a very, very happy cake). Right now her maturation will dictate when we start. She's an April baby so relatively early for the WBs, and it'd be quite fun to do the 4yo classes. Tentatively, may put 30 days on her in Fall of her 3yo year and then chuck her back out in a field until spring, but we'll see where the mind and the body is before we really go forward with anything.

                I've had her since she was 12 weeks or so, though it took me a while to get off my seat and finally make an offer - met her at 5 wks and fell in love, but I am a champion overthinker so I had to sit and ruminate for a while. She's been here with me for almost a year now and we're cracking away at things. Bought her for her brain and her personality, and I have no regrets. She makes my heart full.

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                • #28
                  Add me to the club of "I hope my baby horse stops growing!!"

                  3 yo (2016 model)
                  Currently 17.1 (plus, I stopped measuring...he wears an oversize warmblood bridle!)...still growing (ugh!!)
                  KWPN-NA (by Don Tango B out of Zola Daula (Farrington)
                  Bought him as a late yearling from Timbach Farm in Indiana (KC breeds some lovely horses - movement and brains)

                  He went out for 3 months to get started this summer, came home in August and has been very good. Took him to Devon for breed classes, and realized he still is a bit spooky and has some holes in his foundation, so he is doing a month or two of "cowboy camp" where he can get used to cows, horses riding around him, Amish buggies, etc! The w/t/c and going in a frame is super easy for him, but he needs more mileage with "stuff" that is going on and leaning to focus.

                  He was totally not a planned purchase for me and was one of those situations where everything just fell into place (which doesn't usually happen for me). I had lost my FEI and YR horse (he was 27) to a severe and sudden founder...I wasn't looking to buy but I was looking to see what breeders had the same dam-line (Daula line) as the gelding I lost. The rest fell into place and a month or so later Lex arrived. Ironically, some of the quirky personality traits my old gelding had, this guy also does (it's a bit freaky to be honest). He's a special horse and I can't wait to see where we go.

                  I don't have an agenda for him next year other than going to my trainer for lessons and going to school at some local shows so he can get the hang of going out and about.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Critter View Post
                    Add me to the club of "I hope my baby horse stops growing!!"

                    3 yo (2016 model)
                    Currently 17.1 (plus, I stopped measuring...he wears an oversize warmblood bridle!)...still growing (ugh)
                    I can totally relate, Critter! But he’s a real cutie! Love how brilliant of a chestnut he is too

                    My mare’s head is also ginormous I think her head is as big as my torso at this point (and I’m 5’10! The first pic with me is about a year ago and she's definitely grown since then). She's not a modern, light build either lol Her back legs require an XXL dressage boot! In my defence her dam was 17.1 and her sire 16hh. I’ve only found one horse in her whole pedigree (going back 6 generations) that is over 17.3hh. They need to come out with some sort of "stop growing, you're too big" supplement
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                    • #30
                      So to add to my post, I just bought a coming for Thoroughbred gelding. I did a small in barn (he started where he was) trial and vetted him when the weather was 70 degrees. It's now 3 degrees and snowing. Great timing for buying a young horse.

                      He's usually been one that didn't need lunging before a ride but I think next week when it hopefully warms up a little, there will be some more lunging and groundwork going on!! I already planned on keeping him in partial training for a bit longer, glad I did!! Because dealing with the cold and young horses is always a little challenge

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                      • #31
                        Originally posted by Pony Fixer View Post

                        kashmere I did not--he was bred by Ken Mellish and was still living at his farm, but had been purchased by someone who then needed to sell him due to change in life circumstance. I bought him sight unseen based on the recommendations of my old coach and Ken's daughter (who is also a friend). I had never heard of Schwarzenegger before this horse but based on everything I've now read, as well as some of his other get I have seen, I am not sure why he is not more popular. Thank you so much for the compliment, I also think he is lovely!
                        Schwarzenegger makes some GORGEOUS babies, for sure Send your boy a bit of East Coast love from me!

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                        • #32
                          Love this thread!

                          Dragon Slayer/ aka “Wiggles”
                          Age: 4yrs (2015)
                          Breeding: Welsh x warmblood (By Smoketree Dragontales)
                          Size: 15+
                          Origin: USA
                          Purchased: 2019

                          my goal is to earn my bronze with him. He’s got a goofy personality, and he’s very smart. He was bred to be a large hunter pony and accidentally turned into a horse. I adore working with him. He’s pretty bold, so I’m looking forward to doing some eventing with him also. We’ll hopefully make our debut at starter novice in the spring. We’re working on the canter departs right now.

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                          • #33
                            So, I am selling my previous OTTB that I have bragged on here about as I have finally reached the conclusion that I just don't enjoy riding hot, intense horses. It feels like a major failure but lucky for me, my best friend (who is selling Tiger), had an incredible dressage prospect that didn't enjoy foxhunting, which is what she primarily does now, so I am leasing him indefinitely.

                            So, helping me feel less like a failure every day.... meet "Youmightbearedneck aka Rory"!

                            Age: 8
                            Height: 17.1?
                            Breeding: OTTB
                            Origin: USA
                            Purchased: started our lease 10/1/19

                            Rory has done a LOT prior to coming to me, including some schooling dressage shows where he got very good scores... bridleless For those who don't follow the Retired Racehorse Makeover Project, he was the 2016 Ambassador and he got a ton of attention for competing bridleless. He was in a trailer accident that caused a giant fracture of his upper jaw, so he was unable to be ridden in any sort of headstall for a long time right after he came off the track. My very brave friend decided to do everything bridleless- he has done schooling jumper shows, schooling horse trials, and foxhunted. He has been back in a bridle for quite some time now and really enjoys the "magic" bit - the Neue Schule Tranz Angled Lozenge Eggbutt.

                            I am working on getting him in dressage shape, as he is foxhunting fit, and working on getting him forward in front of my leg and just generally getting to know each other.

                            Here is his Facebook page, which I just posted my first video on

                            https://www.facebook.com/pg/Youmight...9283728/posts/

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                            • #34
                              Originally posted by Heinz 57 View Post

                              Thank you! I bought him for his temperament and haven't regretted it one bit - not too many horses I'd start in a bareback pad, let alone in my unfenced outdoor arena. I spent a long time focused on eventing and though I've shown successfully through First, it's been a LONG time since I've done any competing. I'm not in a rush, so we've spent this summer focusing on correct foundations and building fitness walk/trot. Slow and steady will help him win the race. We're just here to have fun.

                              Once we get over the next few hurdles - namely saddles and winter arena footing issues - I think he will progress faster. He's a good egg!
                              I am especially excited about your guy! He reminds me of my previous horse, a little grade quarter pony I started under saddle that was hands down the best little pony I ever sat on. Fancy, bold, totally unflappable, can jump the moon. He is a lesson horse at a camp/equestrian center now, and was leased out by one of the counselors last year to event for the Auburn team. Did Novice at the champs. His dressage wasn't the best, and he would typically throw a rail or a few in SJ, but he is a blast cross country. If anyone goes to Eventing Nation and saw the photo going around earlier this year of the Auburn mascot in tiger costume sitting on a little chestnut bareback, that was Todd!

                              I have this thing now for little chestnut quarter ponies! And yours is ADORBS!

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                              • #35
                                I have a 4 yo 16.2 KWPN, Cora, who is mostly jumper-bred (Everglade VDL x Marlon) by the amazing COTH poster Majestic Gaits. She is aimed at dressage and lower level eventing, and is currently away being started. My arena isn't done, so she's getting some extra cowboy school time until I can keep her in work when she comes home. I hope to get her out and about some this upcoming year, but am taking my time with her -- she's just one of those who needs a little extra time to relax about life experiences! She needs to learn to focus on the rider and not outside things, and the cowboy is doing a great job with her on that. She's the bay.

                                I also have a 5 yo 17h chestnut OTTB, bought from the amazing COTH poster Jessica Redman, who was doing super and went to one show before he contracted EPM. I'm just now getting him going again. He's really smart and calm, but his nice gaits are naturally tighter through the back than the WB when he is tense in the least, so we are mostly working on letting go and stretching. I finally sat on him again last week, and he was a star, not a foot wrong despite having to be ridden in a field alongside my chickens and active puppy in the bushes.

                                The two are both good moving, talented horses but their developmental needs could not be more different. That's part of the fun!

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                                • #36
                                  Originally posted by RainWeasley View Post

                                  I am especially excited about your guy! He reminds me of my previous horse, a little grade quarter pony I started under saddle that was hands down the best little pony I ever sat on. Fancy, bold, totally unflappable, can jump the moon. He is a lesson horse at a camp/equestrian center now, and was leased out by one of the counselors last year to event for the Auburn team. Did Novice at the champs. His dressage wasn't the best, and he would typically throw a rail or a few in SJ, but he is a blast cross country. If anyone goes to Eventing Nation and saw the photo going around earlier this year of the Auburn mascot in tiger costume sitting on a little chestnut bareback, that was Todd!

                                  I have this thing now for little chestnut quarter ponies! And yours is ADORBS!
                                  Truth be told, he reminds me of a pony I once knew, too. Also a little red grade quarter pony, and also kind of homely looking standing still. My BO at the time got him on trade, and he was the coolest little guy. We took him to a dressage show and she and I ended up tying for high point with matching 72%'s in Training 4, though she won in the end thanks to the coefficient tiebreaker. My fondest memory of that show is that despite a very short warmup, once he got in the ring he was dead. Totally DEAD, gas gauge on E. I kicked for all I was worth to get that score, cursed myself for not carrying a whip and about died laughing the whole time. He went off to be a kids' horse and then ended up in a lesson program, too. He was a packer all the way around.

                                  Elmo (yup, that's what I named him) has character, and he THINKS he's fancy. Did I mention, he nickers at me every time I dismount? What more could a girl need!

                                  Also, Pony Fixer you toot that horn. Those are some awesome accomplishments. If I'd been more focused and stuck with one horse instead of dallying around in the resale/project horse business, I might already have my bronze. Now I'm ready to focus on this one, with my SAHM shoestring budget and my pony in my backyard. I've got the will, so we will find the way!

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                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by Heinz 57 View Post

                                    Also, Pony Fixer you toot that horn. Those are some awesome accomplishments. If I'd been more focused and stuck with one horse instead of dallying around in the resale/project horse business, I might already have my bronze. Now I'm ready to focus on this one, with my SAHM shoestring budget and my pony in my backyard. I've got the will, so we will find the way!

                                    You can do it on that shoestring. I bought the Clyde cross for $5k. Sold him at 2nd level for $12k, the exact amount I needed to get the Morgan. The Morgan I traded for the Hungarian. The new youngster is the first horse I've had to actually spend money on--the rest was just rolling around that original $5k. I only showed one horse this year because showing 2 is just too damn expensive. My breeches are tattered rags. The only things I don't skimp on are 1) lessons and 2) saddles. Everything else is repurposed, reused, bought used, trades, etc. I got all the sheets/blankets for the new horse from a friend whose horse had died, I traded her some other stuff. So I totally get it.
                                    Last edited by Pony Fixer; Oct. 30, 2019, 09:12 PM. Reason: Typing errors--had my eyes dilated today and can't see damn thing I'm typing!
                                    From now on, ponyfixer, i'll include foot note references.

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                                    • #38
                                      Love this thread! Have thought a few times about starting one to commiserate / share about our journeys with youngsters!

                                      My guy:
                                      Senegal ... Sennie, Snuggles... etc.
                                      Age: 5yrs (June 2019)
                                      Breeding: GOV/Oldenburg -- Sangol (Sandro Hit) X Liana (Goldfuerst/Grimsel)
                                      Size: 16.2 and I hope that's IT!
                                      Origin: Huntington Farm, VT - USA
                                      Purchased: April 2019

                                      My first youngster.... and I couldn't be luckier. I bought him this Spring when he was just 6 months under saddle. He was much younger than I was searching for (...7+, changes started, talent for FEI!!) .... HIs steering was iffy, but his gaits were lovely, and his temperament was even better. A trainer that gave clinics at my barn once a month (and had grown to know me and my former gelding), gently suggested coming up to take a look, and it was love at first sight. I also fell off on my second ride ...

                                      Me, being a very practical and non-emotional buyer, looked at 2-3 other horses, went back and rode him a few more times, and made the call to purchase him. His steering was basic, there was no semblance of contact, and he was *incredibly* bonded to the woman who had started him.

                                      After I purchased him, I continued to board him at the barn (2 hrs away) and went up each week to take at least one lesson, hand-graze, bond, groom, lunge... really working on making the transition for him to me. We brought him "home" a month later, and we've been moving onwards and upwards since!

                                      This Spring and Summer have been:

                                      Trailer training- teaching self loading, riding with a buddy and alone
                                      Short trips to new locations and clinics, settling in quickly and happily
                                      Trail Riding - Alone and in groups
                                      Gaining contact in each gait- learning what the aids mean
                                      Figuring out how to motivate and challenge him without worrying him
                                      Building muscle, especially in the hind end
                                      Working on leg yields, haunches in, shoulder in, and recently introducing baby renvers
                                      Working on our canter LEADS- left is his tougher lead, so strengthening him overall

                                      It has been SUCH A JOY to work with a youngster, especially one with this brain. He is honest, sensitive, inquisitive, a bit of a push ride, but tries his heart out and WANTS to know his job. Safe and sane on the trails, a super boy all around, and just getting better.

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                                      • #39
                                        I have a 6 y/o (2013) KWPN gelding, he hasn’t been measured in a while, my guess is he’s about 17hh. He was super easy to start, very willing, and stayed that way until midway through his 5 year old year. He did Training, First, and USEF 4 Year Old his 4 y/o year with good scores. He showed a few times early in his 5 y/o year with scores to mid 70s training and high 60s First. After a boat load of diagnostics, he got diagnosed with hind gut ulcers and thankfully all the related behaviors went away. He did one show this fall and got a 72% at 1-3 despite some baby shenanigans.

                                        He has a few teenage goofball moments these days, now that he has realized he is strong! But, he’s pretty solid second level with flying changes lightly started. Depending on what my older horse is up to, he’ll either go show 2nd early in the season or just wait to show until he’s ready for third.

                                        He goes out hacking as much as possible—I try to do the shorter loop on our property (about 30 mins) after every ride—hard when it’s always raining and currently hunting season. I try to do a longer trail ride once a week or more if I can find a buddy!

                                        My favorite thing about him is his level headed-ness under saddle, he’s nicely forward and pretty hot without being wild or naughty. My coach says it’s young ones like him who trick us into thinking they’re all easy peasy to back.

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                                        • #40
                                          I will join in!
                                          I have a 4 yo Hanoverian Gelding. I am thrilled he’s right at 15.3, and am hopeful he doesn’t get much taller!
                                          Bloodlines are Doctor Wendell MF X Ehrentanz1 mare.

                                          I picked him him out as a very early yearling. He was fugly, but I knew he would go back to his awesome inspection video. He’s my dream horse, I bought him after a close relative passed away, life’s short.... buy the horse. This guy has the best temperament, although annoying and obnoxious, he doesn’t have a mean bone in his body. He also is an average, but balanced, mover. He has a Great walk, decent trot, and super balanced canter. He’s finally going WTC undersaddle, poor guy was so weedy at 3, I let him have another year to grow.
                                          He has issues with his leads, he’s too balanced and doesn’t care. We are slowly working on it.

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