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  • Girths. At a loss...

    I am desperately trying to find a girth that will keep my saddle in place. Horse has a straight back sloping downhill too minimal Withers. For word girth line and well sprung ribs. I have tried"

    Schleese Softee (narrower/contoured for elbows)
    County Logic (older one)
    Total Saddle Fit (older one)
    Total Saddle Fit (synthetic)
    DT Saddlery
    Thornhill (fleece w/elastic ends) she likes this best, but it doesn't keep the saddle in place
    Stubben EquiSoft (pinched at the side where the bottom meets the long pieces with the buckles)
    Ovation Crescent synthetic with the gel center

    Any other suggestions? Every saddle rides up her shoulders and even a saddle rep told me I need to find a girth that keeps the saddle in place before I should order a custom saddle🙄😪
    Old picture. Horse is better muscled now. Floor is sloped downhill towards the front.

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    What about a string girth?

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    • #3
      I liked my pro lite girth when I needed my saddle to stop moving forward into my horse’s shoulders. They have a normal and narrow gauge for horses who may have a smaller girth grove.

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      • #4
        Have you talked to your saddle fitter about trying a point billet? That was what it took to stabilize my dressage saddle on a broad-backed, low withered Arab. I paired it with a mohair girth.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GreyDes View Post
          Have you talked to your saddle fitter about trying a point billet? That was what it took to stabilize my dressage saddle on a broad-backed, low withered Arab. I paired it with a mohair girth.
          I was just about to suggest a point billet. They didn't work well for my horse since he's built slightly downhill, but it might work for yours.

          What about a girth that is more grippy? Like the Professional's Choice ones.

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          • #6
            I would just use a crupper if the saddle continues to ride up on the withers.

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            • #7
              I found the Nunn finer piaffe girth. No elastics and it equalizes the pressure to keep things in the right spot. I’m not sure if it will work for you but worth trying if you haven’t yet

              https://www.nunnfiner.com/Nunn-Finer...p/41piaffe.htm

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Reddfox View Post
                I would just use a crupper if the saddle continues to ride up on the withers.
                Same
                Custom tack racks!
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                • #9
                  OP, I'd try a few things and I'll tell you the reasoning behind them.

                  1. Cheapest and might just work-- string girth. If you need a 28" I'll lend you mine for a couple of weeks. They tend to stick where you put them on a horse. And at the very least, they will not "bump into the elbows" in a bad way, but rather the first couple of strings will discreetly fold back if need be.

                  2. Long string girth. I think long girths actually help stabilize saddles more. You have to be willing to punch holes in your long billets. But when I used to ride in short-billeted dressage saddles, I never had a problem feeling the girth or buckles, so long as I had the right length girth. The buckles should be behind your knee.

                  By "string" I mean Trevira, not anything that's thinner, slippery nylon. I know Stubben makes these. And even better, get a mohair girth. These are customizeable with things like a wide center for the sternum (think roping cinch) or keepers for your long billets.

                  After that, WOW saddles make a weird, two-strap girth that looks interesting to me. They are hard to find, but I'd buy one if I could find it just to see if it would work.

                  I have a horse that's a tad similar to yours. Hope this helps!
                  The armchair saddler
                  Politically Pro-Cat

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                    #10
                    Thanks everyone. I had a western saddle and used a mohair girth on it. My horse hated it. Point billets don't seem to work either although they help. The Piaffe girth is too wide. Ixd love to try a WOW H girth but want to be sure to it works before I shell out $400

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                    • #11
                      My boy is built quite similar to yours although he also round like a beach ball. I don't have the issue of the saddle coming forward but I do have an issue with it falling to the left (he throws me left and I always tend to want to sit left). The little miracle cure for us has been a simple non-slip pad like this one https://www.doversaddlery.com/riders...ad/p/X1-19059/

                      My saddle was actually built off the point to allow for more shoulder freedom ( he has a huge shoulder and the point billet squishes his shoulders too much) and I ride in a leather TSF girth (again for shoulder freedom).

                      It might be worth a shot to try that very inexpensive pad. I used it between him and the saddle pad at first and then tried it between the saddle and saddle pad and I found the second combo worked best for us. I have very little to no shifting of the saddle since using this pad.

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                      • #12
                        I had a young horse that was shaped like this for a bit, I used a Fairfax (or Prolite would do) girth and thin Acavallo gel pad for stability. Some sort of other gel/stick pad would probably do the trick. This combination worked well.

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                        • #13
                          The Fairfax works well for my horse who has a short and flat back with a round barrel. However I also got a new saddle as my Passier always slid and tipped forward.

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                          • #14
                            Having dealt with a different shaped mare but same issue - I will second an above suggestion re the saddle PAD. I have a friend who used the black pads as discussed above and they worked on her round ponies. However in my case it had to be a pad that has non-slip material on TOP and on BOTTOM of the pad. The best one is Equest which is sold by County. Not cheap. But Roma makes a more moderately priced one. Here is a link to another https://www.idealsaddle.com/catalogu...ads#ad-image-4

                            Do not opt for ones that are on the thin side... I paired mine with a County Logic girth, but found that the pad was more beneficial than the girth, so ultimately went do a more basic girth.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Maude View Post
                              Thanks everyone. I had a western saddle and used a mohair girth on it. My horse hated it. Point billets don't seem to work either although they help. The Piaffe girth is too wide. Ixd love to try a WOW H girth but want to be sure to it works before I shell out $400
                              There was a 26" used one on sale for @150 or so somewhere on FB. If I could find it again, I'd buy it.
                              The armchair saddler
                              Politically Pro-Cat

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                              • #16
                                Oh, and I like those gel-eze blue perforated leg wraps for "stick" on horse. Get that puppy wet, wring it out, slap it on your naked horse like we used to do with a chamois and nothing will do more to glue that pad to the horse's back.

                                On the pad side of things, I have a bit of a complicated sandwich-- gel-eze or similar glue layer, a pad, a Thinline pad (for me) another pad (so horse doesn't sweat through to my expensive saddle and then the saddle. Things seem to stay in place. But I think the most work is done by the right girth and the sticky layer on the horse.
                                The armchair saddler
                                Politically Pro-Cat

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                                • #17
                                  Have you tried a shorter girth?

                                  My boy is well sprung, minimal withers with a short back. I had issues with my saddle shifting left and right. My old girth still had room to go on the billets and an inch or two below the saddle pad when snugged to riding tightness (I hate a super tight girth, and probably ride with it a hole too loose). Anyways, I tried the same girth I had, but one that was 4" shorter and found that made my saddle significantly more stable.

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                                    #18
                                    So I have a Total Saddle Fit Stretch Tech girth from Dover. I walked in to look at them and they reminded me that there is a 30% off sale on one item this weekend vhf ia email coupon. If it doesn't work I can return it. I use a Lemieux full dressage square that is half lined with sheepskin I'm really hoping not to have to give up the sheepskin because I feel like it is so good for my horses back. I'll let you all know how this girth works out and if I could find that H girth I would buy it too.

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                                    • #19
                                      I have a TSF StretchTec with neoprene liner which I cross billet (so the forward billet is in the rear buckle).

                                      I also have a point billet, a crupper, and at one point did a similar non slip/pad/Thinline/non slip pile like mvp.

                                      That said I found that when the saddle fit my horse it stayed in place as long as the girth was (daylight visible) loose. Not exactly a safe option for a spooky, green broke youngster. The girth pulled the saddle forward. The point billet, crossed billets and StretchTec allow me to tighten the girth to a safe degree.

                                      ​​​​​My horse has reasonable withers, a level back, forward girth groove, and well sprung ribs. And a good saddle fitter who adjusts the stuffing as needed.

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                                      • #20
                                        My 16.1 westfalen has a sprung ribcage and a forward girth groove. In the past, the wintec girth worked for horses but not this horse - the saddle encroached on his shoulders. My saddle fitter recommended a Fairfax NARROW girth for this horse. My local tack shop, which allows you to try saddles, allows you to try girths. I tried this girth and my horse and the saddle fitter gave it the thumbs up. I also have a cut-out nun finer neoprene pad that I use between the saddle and the pad for my former horse and this horse - it helps keep the saddle from slipping on the pad. Good luck!!
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