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  • Bombers Happy Tongue

    Just wanted to stop by and say that my horse had a good experience with this bit today. The Bombers Happy Tongue D ring. We had been having some unsteadiness issues and tossing the head during transitions. He would also chew the reins through my hands in more than what would be a “seeking the contact” kind of way. We tried loose ring single joint snaffles and French link snaffles as well as the baucher and of them all the baucher was the worst for my guy. I was so pleased at how soft and steady he could be in this bit today. I just had to come and share over here. I’ve been told that it is Dressage legal but I’m not entirely sure. Does anyone know for certain?

    https://malvernsaddlery.com/products...e-happy-tounge
    Last edited by Equestrianette; Aug. 14, 2019, 01:57 AM.

  • #2
    USEF Eventing Dressage or USEF regular Dressage? It is always good to check the rule book, though they do make it more difficult to understand than they could. USEF reminds me of the IRS in that regard.
    https://www.usef.org/forms-pubs/KlV5...nting-division
    https://www.usef.org/forms-pubs/F3p8...ssage-division

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    • Original Poster

      #3
      I contacted the company and this is what they said.

      The Dee Happy Tongue is Dressage legal in the USA. The Happy Tongue port does fit within the USEF's port rules, we have previously sent samples to have this confirmed.

      Regards,
      Claire@Bombers

      I am not so sure it matters for me since I will likely only do lower level dressage. I was a bit confused about the language of the USEF, it said the O ring Happy Tongue is legal I just wasn’t sure if that translated over to the dee ring. In the footnotes it said O ring, egg butt, and dee rings are legal for all snaffles. Then I thought too hard about it and wondered if the solid bar of this bit is considered a snaffle? I confused myself. Hehe! Worst case, what kind of other dressage legal bits emulate the Tongue relief that this bit provides? I never would have imagined my guy preferring a tongue relief bit so I want to educate myself on these kinds of bits.

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      • #4
        A Mullen mouth would come closest (if you weren't going with another ported mouthpiece) and may work if your horse is objecting to a broken mouthpiece.
        Yes, it is considered a snaffle.

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          #5
          Thanks! Yeah I had him in a shaped happy mouth Mullen mouth a year ago but while researching this bit I actually found out that the shaped Mullen mouth is not dressage legal! Glad I looked! Only the smooth Mullen’s are legal. The rational is that the shaped one does not allow tongue relief so it’s not a true Mullen. Good to know since my guy has shown he prefers real tongue relief.

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          • #6
            It's USEF legal as a snaffle, my pony fell in love with that bit as well. Equestrianette Bombers sent me a copy of the letter from USEF on USEF letterhead saying it's legal, I can send you a copy if you PM me your email address. I keep it in my show binder just in case, since it is such a weird looking bit.
            www.cobjockey.com - Eventing the Welsh Cob

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            • #7
              When there is a question regarding equipment, I would suggest emailing USEF if you email anyone. They are really good about getting back to people with answers. Then keep a copy of the email with you at shows.
              "So relax! Let's have some fun out here! This game's fun, OK? Fun goddamnit." Crash Davis; Bull Durham

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              • #8
                The rules in the illustration section says any ring configuration listed; loose egg D , is legal with any bit configuration. I agree that you should do your own due diligence on the use of what appears to be a ported mullen. USEF is good for these questions. If you show rated, even at intro / training you are subject to all rules
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