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  • Originally posted by xQHDQ View Post
    MB was in the hospital for knife wounds.
    Where did this come from? The judge specifically said that LK and RG had no knife, or even a stick!
    From now on, ponyfixer, i'll include foot note references.

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    • Originally posted by haleybot View Post
      LK has a history of not showing up to any barn for weeks or months even when she lived less than 5 miles down the road from them. On her Instagram she even stated she didnt ride for a whole month in FL and then rode for 5 days before showing at 3rd level. And barely got a 60% and scratched her other classes. Scratching seems to be a theme with her...all the way back to training level.
      Skipping out on lessons at training level? You mean all the way back to 2016?!

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      • Not speculating, but based on watching the arraignment, I would get a better criminal attorney if I were MB. I certainly hope he is not using a public defender.

        The entire living arrangement of multiple people and groups sharing a house and perhaps swapping labor for rent or training is so typical of poor business practices. Verbal agreements can be problematic; nothing seems to be in writing at least at this point. I can think of so many arrangements like this that go awry and this one did with great drama. We see it just as much at the top end of the sport and we do on the low end.

        This is one hot mess.
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        • Originally posted by enjoytheride View Post
          So Lauren and her Fiance were squatting in his home, and refusing to leave, despite an eviction notice. It got so bad that he was living in the barn office.

          But she feared for her life? I don't understand at all why she wouldn't just leave.
          There was no eviction notice. Def atty stated when questioned by the judge if there was anything about an eviction on record that both LE and MB had retained attorneys who had been in communication but nothing had been filed. Prosecutor did not dispute or add to this statement. Def atty repeatedly called LK/RG "squatters" but the judge questioned this and spoke at length, doubting that the term "squatter" applied to LK/RG. MB whispered to his atty who then stated that LK/RG had been told verbally by the fire chief to vacate due to code violations but no record of this was asked for or produced. And that's the extent of the eviction notice story so far.


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          • Originally posted by enjoytheride View Post
            So Lauren and her Fiance were squatting in his home, and refusing to leave, despite an eviction notice. It got so bad that he was living in the barn office.

            But she feared for her life? I don't understand at all why she wouldn't just leave.
            I've been running that question through my head also.

            I've wondered if LK paid MB in advance for say 3 mo. training/board?

            I was going to pay a barn/trainer in advance one time because I was busy and traveling a lot- until a fellow boarder

            said vehemently "No don't do it." "BO/trainer doesn't manage money well and you may get billed again."

            Other than not having a place lined up to take 5-6 horses, and maybe without good references, it would be difficult to

            move quickly. I dunno.
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            • New theory:

              I'm not going to touch the allegations of substance abuse against Lauren, but I think we can all agree that she is a bit of a wild child. I wonder if, besides the breakdown of the professional relationship, she was a bad roommate. Perhaps she was displaying behavior that MB and his fiancee didn't like the children seeing? It's possible that he didn't live in the house when she and the boyfriend were there in 2018, so her behavior could be a surprise to MB.

              For any number of reasons, MB asked her to leave, and she was refusing. To get away from all of her antics, he, his fiancee and the kids may have moved into the barn. I know all barns are not created equal, and I have seen many high end dressage barns with steam showers and full kitchens in the viewing room area. They can certainly be suitable to live in, and are often nicer than my own home.

              BUT non-horse people don't know this. It's possible that Lauren called DYFS and said, "this man is keeping his kids in a barn!" That's not a lie, but it will concern people and warrant a visit from authorities.

              That would have made him REALLY mad, because the whole reason they moved out of the house is because Lauren was making them uncomfortable in the first place. My understanding is that this woman is spiteful, so this could have started as an attempt to push his buttons.

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              • Perhaps as a silver lining, the horse industry will wisen up about contracts, especially as it relates to housing for working students and clients.

                AND maybe NJ will change their housing laws and make eviction a speedier process.

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                • "Isn't "I had a good life" almost an admission of guilt?" - yes, I think that's where the judge was leaning towards a possible premeditated action.

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                  • From what I can piece together, I think LK has a long history of bulldozing people whom she boards and trains with, engaging repeatedly in these kinds of scare tactics, and felt she could continue doing it forever. MB, after being so bullied with threats of this and that he slept in an office (she stood outside his door screaming “I will destroy you” in the house), was then accused of child abuse — and snapped, went to the main house and shot her, probably intending to kill himself after.

                    no one deserves to be shot. At all. but at the same time, you can’t expect no one to ever fight back when you ride roughshod over their lives. She is lucky it hasn’t happened before. Her luck ran out. He will go to prison for a long time, and she’ll have to deal with her health issues. I feel sorry for them both. It is a tragic story.

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                    • Originally posted by SBrentnall View Post

                      I read all LK's FB posts before they were removed. Several people offered to show up on any day of her choosing and haul the horses anyplace she wanted. She thanked them and said it wasn't necessary.
                      This is what I don't understand!!!

                      All I have been told is "poor innocent LK", and that she has a team of attorneys planning on going after any and everyone.

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                      • Originally posted by MeisterMagnolia View Post
                        "Isn't "I had a good life" almost an admission of guilt?" - yes, I think that's where the judge was leaning towards a possible premeditated action.
                        This was a bail hearing not a discovery for trial. I think
                        judges comments were meant to be taken as said “danger to himself and others”.

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                        • Originally posted by fordtraktor View Post
                          From what I can piece together, I think LK has a long history of bulldozing people whom she boards and trains with, engaging repeatedly in these kinds of scare tactics, and felt she could continue doing it forever. MB, after being so bullied with threats of this and that he slept in an office (she stood outside his door screaming “I will destroy you” in the house), was then accused of child abuse — and snapped, went to the main house and shot her, probably intending to kill himself after.

                          no one deserves to be shot. At all. but at the same time, you can’t expect no one to ever fight back when you ride roughshod over their lives. She is lucky it hasn’t happened before. Her luck ran out. He will go to prison for a long time, and she’ll have to deal with her health issues. I feel sorry for them both. It is a tragic story.
                          I agree. This is highly plausible. I've also heard that she reported him and his employees to ICE at the same time that she reported him to DYFS. We won't know the full story until (if) this goes to trial.

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                          • Originally posted by Lovey View Post

                            There was no eviction notice. Def atty stated when questioned by the judge if there was anything about an eviction on record that both LE and MB had retained attorneys who had been in communication but nothing had been filed. Prosecutor did not dispute or add to this statement. Def atty repeatedly called LK/RG "squatters" but the judge questioned this and spoke at length, doubting that the term "squatter" applied to LK/RG. MB whispered to his atty who then stated that LK/RG had been told verbally by the fire chief to vacate due to code violations but no record of this was asked for or produced. And that's the extent of the eviction notice story so far.

                            There's what appears to be either an eviction notice or condemnation notice visible on a side door of the house at 1:25 in this video (reporter says it's an eviction notice) unless maybe it's some handmade thing MB taped up there.

                            https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...530284361.html
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                            • Originally posted by furlong47 View Post

                              There's what appears to be either an eviction notice or condemnation notice visible on a side door of the house at 1:25 in this video (reporter says it's an eviction notice) unless maybe it's some handmade thing MB taped up there.

                              https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...530284361.html
                              If there were code violations, it may just be a notice of that fact.

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                              • Originally posted by Pony Fixer View Post
                                The judge specifically said that LK and RG had no knife, or even a stick!
                                What he said is that "there's no evidence in this case" that they had a weapon. Which seems pretty clear, but in the next minute ...

                                "I don't have any information currently about where the gun came from, but there's no evidence before the court that the defendant took that gun from either of the victims here."

                                If they haven't so much as tracked the gun how much "evidence" could there possibly be other than the LK- RG version of events?
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                                • It doesn't mean they haven't tracked the gun or started. It just means the judge doesn't have it in his report.

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                                  • Originally posted by joiedevie99 View Post

                                    I agree. This is highly plausible. I've also heard that she reported him and his employees to ICE at the same time that she reported him to DYFS. We won't know the full story until (if) this goes to trial.
                                    Oof. I hate to say it, but those horses might not be going anywhere for a long time. Who would want them as boarders? They might need to buy their own farm next.

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                                    • Originally posted by Scaramouch View Post

                                      What he said is that "there's no evidence in this case" that they had a weapon. Which seems pretty clear, but in the next minute ...

                                      "I don't have any information currently about where the gun came from, but there's no evidence before the court that the defendant took that gun from either of the victims here."

                                      If they haven't so much as tracked the gun how much "evidence" could there possibly be other than the LK- RG version of events?
                                      It likely means that none of the three people involved in the shooting is claiming that anyone but MB brought the gun to the scene. Otherwise the evidence would be in the form of witness statements before the court, no?

                                      As to the poster claiming that MB had knife wounds, do you have direct knowledge of that? I haven’t seen that reported by any legitimate source and the judge was very clear that there was no eveidence LK or her fiancé had a knife.

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                                      • Originally posted by JustTheTicket View Post

                                        Calling cps on someone is a little more than “infuriating and annoying af”. That shit can ruin someone’s life if there’s not an actual reason to be calling them.
                                        it can ruin the life if several someone's, including innocent kids... hideous thing to do if it was an unfounded allegation.
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                                        • Originally posted by skip99 View Post

                                          For what it's worth, before her recent FB posts went poof, she had commented that she made it a requirement to live on the property as she would never move her horses anywhere where she could not live on the property as she wanted to be able to walk to see them whenever she wanted (from memory, don't have screenshots). I find that request odd, but have heard of clients (or working students) living on premises at other facilities for varying lengths of time.

                                          What makes it odd-er, is that she and fiance moved into MBs house.
                                          I may like my trainer, but I do not like anyone that much, to be around them that much...
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