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  • Originally posted by Sticky Situation View Post

    My take from the video was that they lived on the farm for summer of 2018, went to florida for the winter and lived somewhere down there, and then moved back onto the farm when they came back from Florida. It wasn’t completely clear though.
    Yes, that is what the prosecuting attorney said.

    I was simply correcting the post that said MB said this.

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    • Originally posted by see u at x View Post
      If she has so many friends and family and they have so much freakin' money, then why didn't a bunch of those people lobby together over the weekend to help them get their stuff and the horses away from the farm, regardless of whether or not Barisone is coming back to the farm right away?
      I read all LK's FB posts before they were removed. Several people offered to show up on any day of her choosing and haul the horses anyplace she wanted. She thanked them and said it wasn't necessary.

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      • Originally posted by Sticky Situation View Post

        My take from the video was that they lived on the farm for summer of 2018, went to florida for the winter and lived somewhere down there, and then moved back onto the farm when they came back from Florida. It wasn’t completely clear though.
        The fact that LK and bf lived on MB's farm last summer, 2018, tells me that they were'nt bad clients, if he took them back this year.

        Something changed this year in MB's performance and fulfilling his training/riding responsibilities. If he let thing slide and

        was a "drunk" as alleged by LK that would explain why things weren't the same in 2019.

        didn't he just go through a divorce in the past few years also?

        IMO, his whole life was spiraling down and could be why he was also hurting for money, as alleged by LK.
        "There is no fundamental difference between man and animals in their ability to feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery." - Charles Darwin

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        • Originally posted by Marla 100 View Post

          Pure speculation- reading between the lines and lies, my guess is we'll find out he has a serious substance abuse problem.

          Won't matter in the end I don't believe and it's not grounds for mental issues, but it sure looks like that's his downfall.
          Wow, nothing like trying to taint public opinion! How dare you throw that out, out of the blue. A good friend of LK, are you!

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          • Originally posted by cloudyandcallie View Post
            I think Nancy Grace should cover this trial.
            Shes a clown and never has her facts straight. I want a thread on Websleuths for this so we can get actual facts.
            Boss Mare Eventing Blog

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            • Has anyone watched LK's video of her 4th level test 3???? If LK herself was in full time training I would think she would have ridden that test a whole lot better. LK has a history of not showing up to any barn for weeks or months even when she lived less than 5 miles down the road from them. On her Instagram she even stated she didnt ride for a whole month in FL and then rode for 5 days before showing at 3rd level. And barely got a 60% and scratched her other classes. Scratching seems to be a theme with her...all the way back to training level.
              My take on it is her Dad had been paying all this $$ out for her to train and she hadnt held up her side by actually riding. PSG is not an easy level to ride even if you ride every day...I bet she needed someone to blame for her lack of performance. And Michael was the perfect target. LK likes to have excuses for her poor performances. I've never seen a post from her that ever acknowledged that she herself rode poorly.
              Maybe Daddy had enough and was cutting her off again???
              This is my take on maybe why things broke down within the trainer student relationship.

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              • Originally posted by haleybot View Post
                Has anyone watched LK's video of her 4th level test 3???? If LK herself was in full time training I would think she would have ridden that test a whole lot better. LK has a history of not showing up to any barn for weeks or months even when she lived less than 5 miles down the road from them. On her Instagram she even stated she didnt ride for a whole month in FL and then rode for 5 days before showing at 3rd level. And barely got a 60% and scratched her other classes. Scratching seems to be a theme with her...all the way back to training level.
                My take on it is her Dad had been paying all this $$ out for her to train and she hadnt held up her side by actually riding. PSG is not an easy level to ride even if you ride every day...I bet she needed someone to blame for her lack of performance. And Michael was the perfect target. LK likes to have excuses for her poor performances. I've never seen a post from her that ever acknowledged that she herself rode poorly.
                Maybe Daddy had enough and was cutting her off again???
                This is my take on maybe why things broke down within the trainer student relationship.
                So even if this was true, and she was a "flaky" rider. What does it matter? If you have a horse in full training, why do you need to ride every day? People can ride and show whenever they like.

                How does this have anything to do with what happened? You think MB drove to her house and shot her becaause she didnt ride for weeks and got crappy scores at 4th level?

                Do you listen to yourself?
                Boss Mare Eventing Blog

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                • WRT to them living in the same house, it could be that the structure has two separate living units. The main house and an attached apartment over the garage, for example. This might explain why the fire department came and said LK and RG couldn't be living there, but there is no mention of MB also being kicked out by the FD. It also seems less creepy than LK, RG, MB all living with MB's fiance and the kids.
                  "So relax! Let's have some fun out here! This game's fun, OK? Fun goddamnit." Crash Davis; Bull Durham

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                  • USA Today has 26 photos from today's hearing. Also judge is quoted as saying he believes Barisone is a danger to others

                    and possibly to himself also, thus the no bail decision. Judge mentions there are methods in place for handling these

                    types of civil disagreements and Mr. Barisone chose to take matters into his own hands.

                    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ge/2009839001/
                    "There is no fundamental difference between man and animals in their ability to feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery." - Charles Darwin

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                    • I just want to say that all women should be so fortunate to have a BF or Spouse that is willing to risk his life for her and stick by her through thick and thin. And, this guy must be super strong to be able to overpower MB and keep him down.

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                      • Originally posted by Reddfox View Post
                        CPS doesn't just take kids for no reason. People have rights, even if CPS is called, and you can prevent CPS from interviewing kids unless they obtain a court order, which is only gotten if the investigator justifies a claim within 24 hours. Repeat harassing calls are quickly sniffed out, as are cases of actual abuse. Here's some light reading on how CPS operates. See the sections on being falsely accused and being reported by someone with ulterior motives. https://wehavekids.com/parenting/InsideCPS

                        In other words. Stressful, annoying and infuriating... but not life ruining.
                        I’m just speculating with the rest of you, but am wondering if the CPS call was tied to the suggestions she made (evidently) on FB that she was going to report him to SafeSport. I think people assumed that she was referring to her own interactions with MB as being the ones (paraphrasing) “that SafeSport was made for”, when they were actually threats with regard to the children.
                        The whole thing is just so crazy to me, but I think there’s an awful lot more to this than we know.

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                        • Originally posted by Roser123 View Post

                          I’m just speculating with the rest of you, but am wondering if the CPS call was tied to the suggestions she made (evidently) on FB that she was going to report him to SafeSport. I think people assumed that she was referring to her own interactions with MB as being the ones (paraphrasing) “that SafeSport was made for”, when they were actually threats with regard to the children.
                          The whole thing is just so crazy to me, but I think there’s an awful lot more to this than we know.
                          But if she was worried about him harming the kids, is plastering it all over social media really a good idea?

                          So many bizarre actions, on both their part. It’s looking more and more like MB has earned himself a nice long stay in prison, but I am also pretty certain that LK isn’t someone I would want at my barn. I’m glad she is doing better, and will hopefully be ok.

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                          • Originally posted by caffeinated View Post

                            I don't think it would apply. "snapping" is not the same as insanity. To work as a defense, the defendant has to literally not understand right from wrong (this is why so many actual mentally ill folks end up in prison, because they can be completely insane by medical standards but still understand, say, that murder is wrong.)
                            Aw but this is exactly where it would be used... in a crime of passion... ​​​​​​ temporary insanity is where the "bad guy" says he or she was insane when they committed the crime but then regained their sanity after the fact...

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                            • The judge brought up something that particularly bothered him and the police - MB, while being apprehended, repeatedly said "I had a good life." I was surprised this was such an issue for the judge; but after listening further to him I came to the conclusion (may be incorrect here) that the judge thought MB meant he HAD to harm someone else and/or himself. Along the lines of: "I had a good life....until I decided to do this to her and/or myself...". Somehow I also took it to mean premeditation. Watching MB, however, I wondered about an insanity defense as his response to the alleged victims was so uncharacteristic to his history.

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                              • Originally posted by ToN Farm View Post
                                I just want to say that all women should be so fortunate to have a BF or Spouse that is willing to risk his life for her and stick by her through thick and thin. And, this guy must be super strong to be able to overpower MB and keep him down.
                                I agree, MB is a big dude and looks super strong also.

                                I shudder to think what would have happened if RG didn't overpower MB and restrain him. We might be discussing 4 or

                                5 shots and a dead LK. RG really is the hero in this whole scenario.
                                "There is no fundamental difference between man and animals in their ability to feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery." - Charles Darwin

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                                • Originally posted by Sticky Situation View Post

                                  But if she was worried about him harming the kids, is plastering it all over social media really a good idea?

                                  So many bizarre actions, on both their part. It’s looking more and more like MB has earned himself a nice long stay in prison, but I am also pretty certain that LK isn’t someone I would want at my barn. I’m glad she is doing better, and will hopefully be ok.
                                  No, I was kind of running on the assumption that it was more of a power play (a.k.a. “I can ruin you”), than a real belief that he was really harming the children. Obviously, I could be totally wrong ... it just kind of jumped out at me, especially with all that’s going on with SS these days.

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                                  • The judge referred to the “fatalistic” nature of MB repeatedly saying “I had a good life” ... I took it to mean that the judge was concerned that MB believed that his “good life” was over and was therefore more likely to say “F it” and go do further harm to LK or the fiancé.

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                                    • Originally posted by Roser123 View Post

                                      No, I was kind of running on the assumption that it was more of a power play (a.k.a. “I can ruin you”), than a real belief that he was really harming the children. Obviously, I could be totally wrong ... it just kind of jumped out at me, especially with all that’s going on with SS these days.
                                      I see, I understand what you mean now. That would make more sense and fit better with the rest of her actions.

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                                      • So what I'm about to say came directly from LK's FB. So it is accurate only inasmuch as it's her word. A friend sent me her "novella" via email the day before she was shot because we're both nosy assholes and we are both on the NC show scene.
                                        • When MB took up with MH (his girlfriend), MB's wife was still living in the house--and did for some time after. VB (wife) did not want a divorce and lived in the main house, main level. Finally she couldn't take it any more and left. MB did not want to divorce her because it would be expensive. Remember VB is an accomplished rider as well and so part of this business was hers. During all this time MB and MH (and her 2 kids) lived in another residence on the premises--not under the same roof.
                                        • The long standing assistant trainer lived in the top floor of the main house (for over a decade) as his residence. LK said he was demoted when MH moved in and he was not happy about it.
                                        • There are 5 bedrooms in the basement that all the other staff lived in.
                                        • When VB moved out, MH wanted to move in to that area but wanted it to be totally remodeled first--no traces of ex-wife. There was no money for that.
                                        • MB (allegedly) asked LK to move into that space as a "perk" of having 5 horses there in full training, per LK she was seen as a bit of a "gravy train". Her fiancé however also did a lot of work around the property (assumption for free) as part of this deal (spoken, not written deal).
                                        • LK alleges that during the winter of 2018 when no one was in the house, the pipes mysteriously burst incurring enough damage for an insurance claim to cover all the remodeling that MH originally wanted when VB moved out.
                                        There is other stuff in this diatribe about being asked to leave, deals involving getting free training for the new horse in exchange for rebuilding house/carpentry, fights between MB and LK, yelling of MB to MH, blah blah blah. A lot of it is incoherent rambling. Again, this is LK's side and not necessarily truth. But there have been a lot of questions about housing and this seems to answer most of that.

                                        From now on, ponyfixer, i'll include foot note references.

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                                        • Originally posted by MeisterMagnolia View Post
                                          The judge brought up something that particularly bothered him and the police - MB, while being apprehended, repeatedly said "I had a good life." I was surprised this was such an issue for the judge; but after listening further to him I came to the conclusion (may be incorrect here) that the judge thought MB meant he HAD to harm someone else and/or himself. Along the lines of: "I had a good life....until I decided to do this to her and/or myself...". Somehow I also took it to mean premeditation. Watching MB, however, I wondered about an insanity defense as his response to the alleged victims was so uncharacteristic to his history.
                                          I read it more as “I had a good life until this crazy person showed up and ruined it.” I would also, like the judge, consider him a suicide risk.

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