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  • Originally posted by MyssMyst View Post

    Exactly this. I mean... I also am trying to figure out where she was supposed to step into internationally ranked competition. Kind of a jump from a bronze earlier this year to that level?
    The one that torques me the most is the NYT one where the reporter skipped all her other comments where she declined any assistance that was offered to her over and over again.

    She was entered at Saugerties the weekend in the non-CDI PSG.

    It's again with the not understanding the nuances of dressage competition and not bothering to research it. Lazy, sloppy reporting.

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    • Originally posted by Claddagh View Post
      I agree that LK may have a hard time finding another place for her horses given her past history and the fact that she is now embroiled in an attempted murder investigation of which no one yet knows the true facts.
      She literally received and turned down MULTIPLE offers.
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      • Originally posted by meupatdoes View Post

        She literally received and turned down MULTIPLE offers.
        I thought that those offers were made before the shooting, when she was posting about being afraid and needing to move. She obviously should have accepted those offers - they may not be available now in view of the current circumstances as well as the information that has come to light about her past.

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        • Originally posted by Claddagh View Post

          I thought that those offers were made before the shooting, when she was posting about being afraid and needing to move. She obviously should have accepted those offers - they may not be available now in view of the current circumstances as well as the information that has come to light about her past.
          those offers were in my understanding offers to transport her horses to another place, not necessarily an offer of a place to board them. And yes they were in the week before the shooting.

          even before the shooting, most places want references prior to taking in new boarders, especially with someone bringing
          in 5-6 horses. I sure would.
          "There is no fundamental difference between man and animals in their ability to feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery." - Charles Darwin

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          • Originally posted by Claddagh View Post
            Anyway, if LK’s horses are still on the property and MB gets out on bail, I wonder how that will play out!
            I suspect the chance of that is vanishingly slim, given that he's charged with multiple violent felonies, and that someone with properties in multiple states and connections around the world could probably be argued to present a flight risk.

            Part of the logic behind quickly bringing attempted murder charges is to make sure someone you think could be guilty of that kind of malicious violent crime stays behind bars until their guilt or innocence is ascertained.

            With NJ's recent bail reform it seems more likely that he's kept in custody, but that the case will go to court in a matter of months.

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            • Originally posted by Reddfox View Post
              I'm not speculating on anything, but I do find it very interesting to see the media's use of inflammatory headlines and statements on full display. And, every time I see "award winning equestrian" and "won national awards" I have to chuckle a bit. Bronze medals are absolutely something to be proud of, but it's clear that no one in the media knows what that means.
              One article I saw even described LK as 'Olympian' (probably confusing LK's USDF bronze medal with Allison Brock's Olympic bronze medal). Truly sloppy reporting in the service of clickbait headlines.

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              • Originally posted by Marla 100 View Post
                even before the shooting, most places want references prior to taking in new boarders, especially with someone bringing
                in 5-6 horses. I sure would.
                And even if that wasn’t already true ten days ago....

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                • Originally posted by x-halt-salute View Post

                  I suspect the chance of that is vanishingly slim, given that he's charged with multiple violent felonies, and that someone with properties in multiple states and connections around the world could probably be argued to present a flight risk.

                  Part of the logic behind quickly bringing attempted murder charges is to make sure someone you think could be guilty of that kind of malicious violent crime stays behind bars until their guilt or innocence is ascertained.

                  With NJ's recent bail reform it seems more likely that he's kept in custody, but that the case will go to court in a matter of months.
                  All true - but - that is assuming his *cut and dry* probable quilt. The facts aren’t out yet (at least to the public) so we just don’t know what will happen concerning bail.

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                  • Originally posted by Marla 100 View Post

                    those offers were in my understanding offers to transport her horses to another place, not necessarily an offer of a place to board them. And yes they were in the week before the shooting.

                    even before the shooting, most places want references prior to taking in new boarders, especially with someone bringing
                    in 5-6 horses. I sure would.
                    Absolutely! I think she may be between “a rock and a hard place” even if she has all the money that she boasted about having.

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                    • Originally posted by rothmpp View Post


                      It's again with the not understanding the nuances of dressage competition and not bothering to research it. Lazy, sloppy reporting.
                      This is what I strive to remember when I read ANY headline. That when I KNOW what something truly is and I see it is misreported over and over, I have to believe that pretty much everything else that I don't know about is reported in the same way.
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                      • Originally posted by Claddagh View Post

                        All true - but - that is assuming his *cut and dry* probable quilt. The facts aren’t out yet (at least to the public) so we just don’t know what will happen concerning bail.
                        I'm not assuming anything about "cut and dry" probable guilt. I have no idea what actually happened or what investigators know.

                        However, New Jersey's bail reform a couple of years ago seems to have a created a situation where those accused of violent crimes are very unlikely to get released on bail. Guilt or innocence (or probability of guilt vs. innocence) doesn't factor into bail determinations; only things like degree and violence of criminal charges, flight risk, past criminal record (which sounds pretty minimal here), public safety risk are considered.

                        I refuse to speculate about innocence or guilt, but I believe the odds of release on bail are rather low based simply on NJ laws and the specific criminal charges that are involved.

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                        • Originally posted by Reddfox View Post
                          I'm not speculating on anything, but I do find it very interesting to see the media's use of inflammatory headlines and statements on full display. And, every time I see "award winning equestrian" and "won national awards" I have to chuckle a bit. Bronze medals are absolutely something to be proud of, but it's clear that no one in the media knows what that means.
                          Makes me chuckle too. Does she even have her bronze medal? The only LK on Centerline Scores does not appear to have the qualifying scores for their bronze.

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                          • Originally posted by MyssMyst View Post

                            Exactly this. I mean... I also am trying to figure out where she was supposed to step into internationally ranked competition. Kind of a jump from a bronze earlier this year to that level?
                            I guess they just assumed that any FEI level test is "internationally ranked competition". She was also described as an "aspiring dressage trainer" despite being an adult amateur in her late 30s with a few quality horses who has been involved in the sport for what, 5 years or less?

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                            • Originally posted by MDHorsePoor View Post

                              Makes me chuckle too. Does she even have her bronze medal? The only LK on Centerline Scores does not appear to have the qualifying scores for their bronze.
                              Centerline no longer has all scores listed (I believe USDF went after them?). For example, a friend is listed as receiving their Silver medal this month, which she did, but going to the rider's page, no scores listed since July 2018.

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                              • But hasn’t there been some confusion as to whether MB’s name is also listed as part owner of LK’s horses? So I wonder if that presents some legal red tape in moving them, if they haven’t been moved yet.

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                                • From Chronological of Horse today (https://www.chronofhorse.com/article...cheduled-court) “The police report also included information from an interview with Goodwin after the shooting. He said he and Kanarek were at the residence when Barisone arrived. After a brief conversation between Kanarek and Barisone outside, Goodwin heard gunshots and saw that Kanarek had been wounded. He said Barisone then aimed at him but missed, and he attempted to disarm and subdue Barisone as he waited for help.”

                                  Poorly written but shares same information, this is from KAN36NEWS (https://www.kxan36news.com/olympic-r...-neighbor-view) “There was only a very brief verbal altercation. Then Barisone whipped out the gun. He came in and knew exactly what he would do,” said a police spokesman.

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                                  • Yikes, police spokesman. Speculation.

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                                    • If you do a search on Usef LK is listed as the owners of Frontline and Even Better. Jay-T is listed with MB as the owner. She is also listed as the owner on record for a 1999 mare named Symphony. LK also owns a tb gelding in NC and had posted on FB that she was inporting another mare named Rose

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                                      • Originally posted by hut-ho78
                                        His life may be ruined. She is laying up on the hospital in intensive care. Her friends have made loyal and loving statements. People are trashing either/or both? This is tragic. Come on now. We can do better than this. No I don’t know either one, just saw him on Colbert. No dog in this hunt.
                                        Precisely. The only "good" news is that no one was killed. I feel the insanity, the literal senselessness of the event is makes many of us, myself included, seek some straw to grasp so we can bleeping understand why this happened.

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                                        • Originally posted by Rideforthetiara View Post
                                          Poorly written but shares same information, this is from KAN36NEWS (https://www.kxan36news.com/olympic-r...-neighbor-view)
                                          Huh? That celebrity news site looks like a bot chewed up and spit out bits and pieces of what's been reported elsewhere, in a far less intelligible form.

                                          Nothing new reported here.

                                          ETA: On second thought, this has some comedic value.

                                          "Clearance stand" in place of "eviction"! Ha!
                                          “The front of a big, red sign that says clearance stand,” says neighbor Bob Jenkins.
                                          Now to disinfect my computer after visiting a site that looks like it exists primarily to transmit digital herpes.

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