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  • Girth for Difficult Conformation

    My horse has a narrow forward girth area that is tough to fit. She's well sprung so the billets never lineup on any saddle I ever put on her. The County Logic is too stiff and wide and she doesn't like the hard edges. She also does not like the Fairfax girth even the narrower one, or the Total Saddle Fit girth. The girth she likes the best is a cheap Thornhill synthetic fleece but the elastic on each end is too stretchy. I'd love to try a Mattes crescent girth but at $270 that's way out of my budget. Any other suggestions?

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    You might try the Toklat fleece girth (they make both a synthetic and a wool one). I have used one (the Woolback one) with my dressage saddle for my horse. On my jumping saddle I've used a County Logic because of the forward girth groove, but the Toklat works well with the dressage saddle.

    Here's a link to the Woolback:

    https://www.ridingwarehouse.com/Tokl...page-TWEG.html
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    • #3
      Do you need the ergonomic cut? Maybe something that is just slightly curved. Albion makes one that is really nice? BTW, totally agree on the County Logic girths - they are hard, hard, hard - one of my horses got sores from it, just because it was so hard!

      My Pony is very narrow through the chest (and girth groove), plus he's compact, so there just isn't a lot of room there. I got him a girth that looks similar to the Albion (they didn't make one SMALL enough), and it is working well. The Albions are really nice, I used one on a couple of horses for years - sadly, one of my horses slipped and FELL on it, and really scraped and tore it up, otherwise, I'd offer it up to try.

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        #4
        Originally posted by MysticOakRanch View Post
        Do you need the ergonomic cut? Maybe something that is just slightly curved. Albion makes one that is really nice? BTW, totally agree on the County Logic girths - they are hard, hard, hard - one of my horses got sores from it, just because it was so hard!

        My Pony is very narrow through the chest (and girth groove), plus he's compact, so there just isn't a lot of room there. I got him a girth that looks similar to the Albion (they didn't make one SMALL enough), and it is working well. The Albions are really nice, I used one on a couple of horses for years - sadly, one of my horses slipped and FELL on it, and really scraped and tore it up, otherwise, I'd offer it up to try.
        Thanks Mystic. What brand did you end up getting? Do you have a picture of it by chance?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Maude View Post
          My horse has a narrow forward girth area that is tough to fit. She's well sprung so the billets never lineup on any saddle I ever put on her. The County Logic is too stiff and wide and she doesn't like the hard edges. She also does not like the Fairfax girth even the narrower one, or the Total Saddle Fit girth. The girth she likes the best is a cheap Thornhill synthetic fleece but the elastic on each end is too stretchy. I'd love to try a Mattes crescent girth but at $270 that's way out of my budget. Any other suggestions?
          If the cheapie is great except for the elastics, I wonder if you could have a saddle repair person replace them with a firmer elastic?

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          • #6
            Did you try the TSF StretchTec? (but that's not the one we settled on....) Bravo has a very forward girth groove and very well sprung ribs - so girthing has really been a challenge. I tried them ALL. I finally found a girth Bravo likes -its the synthetic version of the Fairfax, and I bought the longest one I could manage. It's a LOT softer than the Fairfax (I have one), and the longer length seemed to put the elbow curves in the right place, and brought the buckles/girth end up above that fatty area just below the shoulder blade at top of girth groove....

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            • #7
              Nunn Finer Piaffe girth https://www.ridingwarehouse.com/Nunn...age-NFPDG.html

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              • #8
                I had a lot of luck with mikmar, but they are super pricey. I found one used. My horse hated TSF and other anatomicals.

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                • #9
                  My fussy boy likes his StretchTec with neoprene liner. They make a fleece liner as well as a leather option (my other horse has the leather liner on his StretchTec).

                  But I'll echo the suggestion to replace the elastic on your cheap girth that she likes, though if the give is part of why she likes it she may change her opinion.

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                  • #10
                    I'll second the Mikmar. My picky horse loves his.

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                      Originally posted by Toblersmom View Post

                      If the cheapie is great except for the elastics, I wonder if you could have a saddle repair person replace them with a firmer elastic?
                      Toblerdmom, I have thought of that. She likes squishy edges. No firm edges like leather or the stiffer fuzzy girths. I tried a girth without elastic and she was not comfortable.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by mlb722 View Post
                        I had a lot of luck with mikmar, but they are super pricey. I found one used. My horse hated TSF and other anatomicals.
                        I had the Mikmar. It had too much stretch

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                        • #13
                          Have you tried the Ovation Gel Bodyform? It is synthetic, shaped similar to the Mattes Crescent, squishy edges, good elastic ends. I’ve used it on a bunch of different horses with good results.
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                          • #14
                            Ovation Europa fleece girth is like $80 from Stateline Tack. I bought one recently and I'm pleased with it so far. It's very soft at the edges, and I like that the whole thing can go in the washer (haven't washed it yet though).

                            If you want a Mattes, Hufglocken.com has 15% off custom orders currently with code WINTER15, which would at least bring it down closer to the $200 price point, or you could get an in-stock girth for a little less.

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                            • #15
                              One of my mares is similar conformation to yours and was having girth issues this summer. A saddle fitter recommended a County Logic---but I waffled on buying it because it was kind of pricey. So, I ignored the advice and kept riding with the girth that works so well for my other horse (one that is wide in the middle and narrows at the ends). Anyway---she ended up getting a girth gall and my mare was NOT a happy horse once that happened. I added a fleecy cover to the party---and that helped for about a week---and then it made things worse (just too much "bulk" bunched into a narrow girth pocket, and it caused some swelling right behind her elbow.

                              I ended up buying a TSF Stretch Tec with the fleece backing. It seemed to solve our problems immediately. She is happy in it and no more girth galls. They are very generous with their return policy--may be worth trying it.

                              Also---not sure if you have explored this---but does your saddle have a point billet? That can make a difference for horses with a narrow girth pocket. Sometimes you need a combination of a point billet plus a contoured girth to make it work.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Maude View Post

                                Thanks Mystic. What brand did you end up getting? Do you have a picture of it by chance?
                                This is kind of crazy, but I don't even know what the brand is! One of our saddle fitters brought a bunch in from the UK, including some SMALL ones because she had a few pony clients. I just bought it because it FIT and it was small enough.

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                                • #17
                                  Your horse sounds like mine, Maude.

                                  I'm currently using this girth and she approves. I find the elastic to be the appropriate stiffness for both of our preferences. It's thin enough that the edging does not irritate her (mentally or physically). It's not perfect; obviously there's no ergonomic factor to help with the fact that her girth groove is so forward. But she's not complaining so I haven't wanted to change. My mare hated all the ergonomic girths I tried. She also hates wide girths. She also hates bulky girths that stick out off her body more than 1/4" or so. I had no idea a horse could have so many opinions about a girth until we started down this dressage path-- she doesn't seem to be nearly as picky with long girths for her jump saddle.
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                                  • #18
                                    This one works for us

                                    https://www.smartpakequine.com/pt/sm...e-girth-10573l

                                    After trying some expensive ergonomic girths, this was the best.
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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by slp2 View Post

                                      Also---not sure if you have explored this---but does your saddle have a point billet? That can make a difference for horses with a narrow girth pocket. Sometimes you need a combination of a point billet plus a contoured girth to make it work.
                                      Good point. My saddle has a point billet and even with the StretchTec girth I have to cross billets so the point billet is vertical to the rear buckle (and be very careful to not tighten the girth too much).

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                                      • #20
                                        I use the same girth with a fleece cover as Texarkana on a well sprung mare. We both love it, the mare for the fit, me for the price and it can go in the washing machine or hosed off.
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