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" Buck B Horsemanship"/Vaquero style/Bridle horse = Dressage?

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  • Originally posted by Foxtrot's View Post
    ...bearing in mind that the modern day well bred dressage horse has a lot of the thrust, impulsion and elevation bred into him. Not all horses are even capable of it.
    My point about improving the gaits is that any horse can achieve better rhythm, stride, impulsion, lift, relative to what they present as a green horse. They might not be spectacular but they are more correct and move better.

    My mare being a case in point. We have gone from a lazy walk to a big stride, and from a sewing machine almost fox trot to a normal working trot over several years.

    I then see horses with much bigger lofty natural strides than she has, being schooled in ways that give them a pony trot, no over step, falling on the forehand, etc.

    So you can also school in ways that deteriorate the gaits too.

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      DLee that's how I see it. Seems like it can certainly be used in Dressage. I wasn't familiar with Ellen but looked her up. It sounds like she's had a very good education all around. And is accomplished with accomplished students. I'd be more inclined to follow her guidance with faith!

      The trainers here, one shows but has no scores at all. None of their students are accomplished either. And I just don't see them going in a productive path, Dressage wise. Now this could just be because someone can only learn so much in a clinic with Buck once a year.

      The other doesn't compete. He's not a terrible rider, he's soft and kind. Great with troubled horses. Had taught piaffe ect. Although all the horses go around with hollow backs, behind the vertical... Ect

      So I think another thing that puzzles me is education. Or lack of education. Competition isn't important to me but I do like to know who I'm listening to knows what they are talking about and can also help others progress. I definitely will use some of what Buck teaches. But if any of the accomplished, correct and respected Dressage trainers I ride with say that I should not use a certain technique anymore, I'll be inclined to listen.

      Thanks for the wonderful discussion!

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