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    Last edited by Maude; Jan. 19, 2019, 12:28 PM.

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    My trainer has a Sir Sinclair gelding. She uses an absolutely gorgeous Hermes saddle. She is sponsored by them. I see you are reasonably local to me. I have met the Hermes rep, Jimmy, a few times. He is really knowledgable.
    Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community. (Tidy Rabbit)

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    • #3
      Stubben.
      devoucoux harmonie
      http://www.windsweptfarmllc.com

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      • #4
        Verhan Odessey

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        • #5
          Friend of mine has one, she started out with an N2. It was a beautiful saddle, ordered custom, but it was a disaster. She tried a few other brands, some fancy French guy came out (LOL) but ended up with a Schleese that she and her trainer like. She wasn't a Schleese fan (and neither am I) but it seems to be working for now...

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          • #6
            I have 3 Sir Sinclair offspring and they all go in Amerigos - they are the only ones I have gotten to fit them perfectly.

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            • #7
              Stubben Genesis is what worked for us for many years.
              http://www.windsweptfarmllc.com

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              • #8
                My Sir SInclair mare is in a Detente Highland and Cob MW tree saddle. I've had her about 18 months, and she's developed a ton through her back and this has continued to fit well, with some regular tweaking with the flocking.
                Here Be Dragons: My blog about venturing beyond the lower levels as a dressage amateur.

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                • #9
                  I have an unbroke Sir Sinclair youngster and not shopping any time soon, but I am curious what specifically is making saddle fit difficult for these horses?

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                  • #10
                    A friend of mine had one and it was recommended that she get a specific Schleese meant for a horse with a comparatively short ribcage.
                    "Adulthood? You're playing with ponies. That is, like, every 9 year old girl's dream. Adulthood?? You're rocking the HELL out of grade 6, girl."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by porterparty View Post
                      I have an unbroke Sir Sinclair youngster and not shopping any time soon, but I am curious what specifically is making saddle fit difficult for these horses?
                      I think the takeaway here is that, given the number of different brands being used on various SS offspring, fitting is actually NOT that difficult...
                      Can't learn anything with a closed mind! with thanks to mug

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                      • #12
                        Also, they might all come from the same stallion, but the mare has half a play in this game!

                        Then you take age, training and muscle development... and rider’s preferences...

                        A good wither/shoulder tracing is a must! Pictures and description of your horse’s back would help too.

                        Trying as much saddles is the best.

                        ~ Enjoying some guac and boxed wine at the Blue Saddle inn. ~

                        Originally posted by LauraKY
                        I'm sorry, but this has "eau de hoarder" smell all over it.
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                        • #13
                          Many Sir Sinclair offspring are VERY difficult to fit. Though they are lovely horses, they often have mutton withers and broad backs and tend to be the type whose loins are so strong that they push the saddles up over their shoulders.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Goforward View Post
                            Many Sir Sinclair offspring are VERY difficult to fit. Though they are lovely horses, they often have mutton withers and broad backs and tend to be the type whose loins are so strong that they push the saddles up over their shoulders.
                            So the same as most native breed ponies, draft crosses, baroque breeds, and Arabs?

                            I know everyone likes to think their horse is a unique snowflake, but this is not that great a fitting challenge that there is only one specific saddle that could ever work.
                            Originally posted by PeanutButterPony
                            you can shackle your pony to a lawn chair at the show...so long as its in a conservative color.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by porterparty View Post
                              I have an unbroke Sir Sinclair youngster and not shopping any time soon, but I am curious what specifically is making saddle fit difficult for these horses?
                              Evidently, from all the varied suggestions posted here, it isn't.
                              Rack on!

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Maude
                                Raconteur, Soloudinhere, Fanfayre, obviously you have never owned one. They are wonderfully talented horses and I believe this is the 4th or 5th year in a row that Sir Sinclair has been named Dressage Sire of the Year. And my horse is not a "unique snowflake". No need to snark. If you’re ever lucky enough to own one you’ll know what I’m talking about
                                Being talented and coming from an exceptional breeding line is irrelevant to saddle fitting.

                                Their withers don't come up until very late and they are late bloomers. Until they mature many of them are saddle fitting nightmares. Go forward obviously has experienced what I'm talking about
                                So... what is needed here, in order for us to help you, is a description of your horse’s wither development and back/shoulder shape.

                                And since your horse might change drastically in a near future, do you want a saddle that the tree could be modified? or will you prefer changing it entirely?

                                Mutton withers’ horses usually do better with long points tree.

                                If the shoulders are bulky, a saddle with Kpanels/shoulder freedom would be better.

                                How long is its back? How wide of a channel does he need? Is its back straight, a little hollow, uphill?

                                You’ve said nothing about your horse’s age, training level, muscle development, conformation/shape...

                                And then... your preferences.




                                ~ Enjoying some guac and boxed wine at the Blue Saddle inn. ~

                                Originally posted by LauraKY
                                I'm sorry, but this has "eau de hoarder" smell all over it.
                                HORSING mobile training app

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                                • #17
                                  alibi_18 —- no no no. These are magical and 1 saddle type will fit horses by this (lovely) stallion. This is not open for discussion of reasonable saddle fitting for a specific horse- it is for get only of this stallion. If you OWNED one- you’d understand....
                                  Come to the dark side, we have cookies

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Maude
                                    Raconteur, Soloudinhere, Fanfayre, obviously you have never owned one. They are wonderfully talented horses and I believe this is the 4th or 5th year in a row that Sir Sinclair has been named Dressage Sire of the Year. And my horse is not a "unique snowflake". No need to snark. If you're ever lucky enough to own one you'll know what I'm talking about. Their withers don't come up until very late and they are late bloomers. Until they mature many of them are saddle fitting nightmares. Go forward obviously has experienced what I'm talking about
                                    Well, I am not lucky enough to have been graced with the presence of a Sir Sinclair offspring (to my knowledge), so obviously I, and others, just do not know, obviously.



                                    I think if you gave us a sense of the horse's general shape, then that would have been more well received. As another poster stated, the mare has an influence too. There are also people that don't know much about Sir Sinclair *gasp* or his shape for fitting a saddle, but do know a lot about which brands and models fit which shape best. So those details are important. Do not discount the advice of someone that has not been graced with the presence of Sir Sinclair or his offspring.

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                                      OK. Deleted my post. I haven't been on COTH for quite some time and now I remember why. I posted here asking for some good advice for people that had Sir Sinclair offspring and I thank those of you that have made helpful comments.

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                                      • #20
                                        Warmbloods grow and change until they are around 7 years old. Btdt with a wb not from that sire but know the changes from looking like a rangey tb to asking "hey,where are your withers?"
                                        Stubben and Hermes and Crosby work on the Samber cross inschallah line. Some times

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